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Post by bloodtypered on Aug 23, 2018 8:10:46 GMT
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Post by mattythestokie on Aug 23, 2018 8:14:01 GMT
Grounding his players after the win. Nothing new.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 23, 2018 8:15:05 GMT
Tbf after 20 minutes we could have easily been 2 up but that’s just us, we didn’t make the pressure count.
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Post by philb on Aug 23, 2018 8:15:08 GMT
Surprised he wasn’t more honest and say what a shower of shit we were.
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Post by rorystowel on Aug 23, 2018 8:17:10 GMT
What he meant to say was: “Stoke were fortunate that we didn’t batter them 5-0.”
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Post by stokecitytalke on Aug 23, 2018 8:17:44 GMT
They did score with their first two shots, and then we just went to pieces.
Wigan worked hard and got their just deserts.
At least they had some shots on target.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 23, 2018 8:18:15 GMT
Tbf after 20 minutes we could have easily been 2 up but that’s just us, we didn’t make the pressure count. Unlucky we had one chalked off, they wernt even in the game until they scored. We looked hungry last night, the defence are a disgrace. |
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Post by bloodtypered on Aug 23, 2018 8:56:12 GMT
First 25 mins they were scared then they got confidence with the first shot, first goal
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 8:58:05 GMT
Decent manager is Cook. We could have got him for less than Rowett, he has no problem in jumping ship either.....
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 23, 2018 9:43:00 GMT
Tbf after 20 minutes we could have easily been 2 up but that’s just us, we didn’t make the pressure count. Unlucky we had one chalked off, they wernt even in the game until they scored. We looked hungry last night, the defence are a disgrace. The defence aren't great but I still think they're exposed like fuck by the midfield. But the first two goals are stopped if Pieters does his job last night. The peno for me is on McClean. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 23, 2018 9:47:30 GMT
Unlucky we had one chalked off, they wernt even in the game until they scored. We looked hungry last night, the defence are a disgrace. The defence aren't great but I still think they're exposed like fuck by the midfield. But the first two goals are stopped if Pieters does his job last night. The peno for me is on McClean. My only quibble with this summation of last nights game was that the third was also on Pieters diving in and getting done in front of the dugouts. Two passes and 10 seconds later they had a penno. I agree McClean should have covered but he wouldn't have had to if Pieters had just stood up. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 23, 2018 9:55:34 GMT
The defence aren't great but I still think they're exposed like fuck by the midfield. But the first two goals are stopped if Pieters does his job last night. The peno for me is on McClean. My only quibble with this summation of last nights game was that the third was also on Pieters diving in and getting done in front of the dugouts. Two passes and 10 seconds later they had a penno. I agree McClean should have covered but he wouldn't have had to if Pieters had just stood up. McClean wasn't even close though and he does it way too often. He doesn't spot the danger until it's way too late. Walters used to do the same. He's reactive and not proactive. By the time he realised the left back had gone, he was 30 yards away and I was down the stairs giving him all kinds of abuse for being useless. |
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Post by maliciousdamage on Aug 23, 2018 9:57:30 GMT
What he meant to say was: “Stoke were fortunate that we didn’t batter them 5-0.” Honestly there were a couple of times second half they broke through and looked too embarrassed to take the shot in case they scored again, that we were that bad is shocking |
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Post by bloodtypered on Aug 23, 2018 10:00:19 GMT
Didnt take chances early on
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 23, 2018 10:18:25 GMT
My only quibble with this summation of last nights game was that the third was also on Pieters diving in and getting done in front of the dugouts. Two passes and 10 seconds later they had a penno. I agree McClean should have covered but he wouldn't have had to if Pieters had just stood up. McClean wasn't even close though and he does it way too often. He doesn't spot the danger until it's way too late. Walters used to do the same. He's reactive and not proactive. By the time he realised the left back had gone, he was 30 yards away and I was down the stairs giving him all kinds of abuse for being useless. I saw exactly that as well mate. I think McClean is utter dogshit. But in my opinion all three goals last night were down to Pieters recklessly diving in and not winning the ball. There were other factors involved but if Erik either wins the ball or jockeys the player and holds him up, none of those 3 goals is scored. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 23, 2018 10:23:54 GMT
McClean wasn't even close though and he does it way too often. He doesn't spot the danger until it's way too late. Walters used to do the same. He's reactive and not proactive. By the time he realised the left back had gone, he was 30 yards away and I was down the stairs giving him all kinds of abuse for being useless. I saw exactly that as well mate. I think McClean is utter dogshit. But in my opinion all three goals last night were down to Pieters recklessly diving in and not winning the ball. There were other factors involved but if Erik either wins the ball or jockeys the player and holds him up, none of those 3 goals is scored. I can't remember what happened before the third tbh. I sit on the side McClean was on and spotted that long before it happened and was ranting before it happened. It was a good rant.  |
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Post by chinesedave on Aug 23, 2018 10:27:28 GMT
They did score with their first two shots, and then we just went to pieces. Wigan worked hard and got their just deserts. At least they had some shots on target. We had a good un chalked off for offside mate. Did your eyes not work last night, let me book you in the opticians kid? |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 23, 2018 10:29:32 GMT
I saw exactly that as well mate. I think McClean is utter dogshit. But in my opinion all three goals last night were down to Pieters recklessly diving in and not winning the ball. There were other factors involved but if Erik either wins the ball or jockeys the player and holds him up, none of those 3 goals is scored. I can't remember what happened before the third tbh. I sit on the side McClean was on and spotted that long before it happened and was ranting before it happened. It was a good rant. Pieters lunged in on their wideman right on the touchline in front of our dugout. The little fella just turned him leaving him in a heap off the pitch. The ball was then swept out to the other flank where their other winger skinned our other fullback and swept the ball across goal for Allen to do the business. If Pieters just jockeys him or even fouls him for fucks sake, none of that happens and McClean's or Allen's inability to track back isn't exposed. PS I don't want this to sound like I'm scapegoating Pieters because he wasn't alone in being wank. Far from it. It's just that, in my opinion, in his case his wankness cost us 3 goals. |
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Post by tribe on Aug 23, 2018 16:28:52 GMT
Tbf after 20 minutes we could have easily been 2 up but that’s just us, we didn’t make the pressure count. And one very poor error led to total capitulation. Cook is right in what he says, it's just Stoke fans can't see it because they're mostly as hot headed as that prick Ashley Williams. I get the booing but aiming songs at Rowett was embarrassing. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 16:33:33 GMT
We score those early chances, get some luck from the assistant, it's a different game
We don't throw the ball in our own net twice, it's a different game.
I completely get what he's saying. Football fans are mostly very reactionary.
That said, our players are unbearably weak minded.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Aug 23, 2018 16:37:04 GMT
I can't remember what happened before the third tbh. I sit on the side McClean was on and spotted that long before it happened and was ranting before it happened. It was a good rant. Pieters lunged in on their wideman right on the touchline in front of our dugout. The little fella just turned him leaving him in a heap off the pitch. The ball was then swept out to the other flank where their other winger skinned our other fullback and swept the ball across goal for Allen to do the business. If Pieters just jockeys him or even fouls him for fucks sake, none of that happens and McClean's or Allen's inability to track back isn't exposed. PS I don't want this to sound like I'm scapegoating Pieters because he wasn't alone in being wank. Far from it. It's just that, in my opinion, in his case his wankness cost us 3 goals. Honestly Gravy, I wouldn't worry about scapegoating. Erik Pieters is utter utter wank. I don't think I could ever "hate" a player who plays for us, but seeing him every week is such a sombre thought and I am sick of the sight of him. Being row 1 at Leeds and seeing him take a throw in for us was the moment of realisation when all I could think was "just sod off Erik." THat was before we went 1 down, and supporting Stoke I know I shouldn't have those thoughts but he just needs to go. |
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