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Post by shrewspotter on Aug 23, 2018 7:35:39 GMT
How would you rate Rowett so far for the following
Season up to date Vs Wigan Substitutions Signings Formation and Tactics
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Post by chell_rosey on Aug 23, 2018 7:37:04 GMT
Impossible. He's inherited such a shower of sh1t...not looking promising tho...
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Post by biglad180 on Aug 23, 2018 7:45:39 GMT
Impossible. He's inherited such a shower of sh1t...not looking promising tho... he might have inherited a shower of shit but the signings he as bought are shit. no one on this board wanted mclean. and ince looks a joke. Williams is a disgrace anyone could see he was going to get sent off last night. early doors but id get rid now. we are clueless
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Post by SCFC92 on Aug 23, 2018 7:46:49 GMT
Why?
So we can fling more mud at a bloke who has managed 4 games with absolute wasters at his disposal?
Last night was the tipping point for me, but not against Rowett. SACK THE BOARD!
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Post by chell_rosey on Aug 23, 2018 7:50:43 GMT
Impossible. He's inherited such a shower of sh1t...not looking promising tho... he might have inherited a shower of shit but the signings he as bought are shit. no one on this board wanted mclean. and ince looks a joke. Williams is a disgrace anyone could see he was going to get sent off last night. early doors but id get rid now. we are clueless His signings will take longer than 3 or 4 games to bed in and they're playing amongst a bunch of wasters and unfit squad members.
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Post by philb on Aug 23, 2018 7:59:35 GMT
Why? So we can fling more mud at a bloke who has managed 4 games with absolute wasters at his disposal? Last night was the tipping point for me, but not against Rowett. SACK THE BOARD! Doesn’t excuse his team selections and bizarre and awful substitutions last night does it? Starts with Fletcher and Allen (both awful at the moment) No Bauer. (Is he injured? Not so sure myself) Adam on the bench. No N’Diaye. Takes Ince off. Puts Bojan on the left wing. Takes Berahino off. Leaves Edwards on the pitch when he was clearly struggling (though you could say that about every one of our defenders to be fair) when we’ve just signed a supposed half decent Premier League right back. I could go on, but he has to take a fair share of the blame at the moment. He doesn’t seem to have a clue who or how he wants to play.
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Post by Northy on Aug 23, 2018 8:06:27 GMT
Why? So we can fling more mud at a bloke who has managed 4 games with absolute wasters at his disposal? Last night was the tipping point for me, but not against Rowett. SACK THE BOARD! Doesn’t excuse his team selections and bizarre and awful substitutions last night does it? Starts with Fletcher and Allen (both awful at the moment) No Bauer. (Is he injured? Not so sure myself) Adam on the bench. No N’Diaye. Takes Ince off. Puts Bojan on the left wing. Takes Berahino off. Leaves Edwards on the pitch when he was clearly struggling (though you could say that about every one of our defenders to be fair) when we’ve just signed a supposed half decent Premier League right back. I could go on, but he has to take a fair share of the blame at the moment. He doesn’t seem to have a clue who or how he wants to play. Bauer was injured, so was Diouf. Ince got injured and had to be replaced. Still shit tactics and player selection though.
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Post by basingstokie on Aug 23, 2018 8:18:24 GMT
Sadly I was pleased we appointed him, pleased we kept Allen, pleased we get Butland, pleased to get Ince, McClean Afobe, Williams, Etebo etc. Pleased we let Grant go (didn't want him to go, but when Man Utd come calling any decent club can't stand in his way), but signed Federici quickly and easily as a replacement.
So going into season I was feeling positive. Now its all gone wrong.
just as well I'm not in charge really ...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 8:43:13 GMT
Not having that we can't blame him and the club is too far gone, he's had the most money to spend of any manager in the league.
He's been diabolically wank I can't believe anyone is defending his tenure thus far, it's been painfully obvious we need a holding mid and yet we are still playing fucking Darren Fletcher there, we have needed a new centre half and yet we'll be going into this weekend having to play Souttar and we only have two wingers too. We have two slots left for three positions it is essential we sign in, yet he signed shit like Cuco Martina.
The players he has decided to sign are largely wank and from relegated teams, not only have we failed to shift deadwood but he has signed more in the form of McClean. We are devoid of confidence and he insists on spending huge sums on players just as mentally wrecked as those we already have.
Persisted all pre-season with 4-3-3 only to drop it after a single game, not to mention now he is changing lineup every fixture now so what, he's been signing these players with no idea where to play them? Seems like it when we have Ince who isn't a winger for a 4-4-2, McClean who barely constitutes a winger at all and Afobe who is not a loan striker. He's taken an unbalanced squad and made it even more unbalanced.
He's been wank, and I already look forward to seeing the back of him.
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Post by hooftastic on Aug 23, 2018 8:44:36 GMT
dealt a shit hand but isn't helping himself
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Post by wearepremierleague on Aug 23, 2018 8:44:41 GMT
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He inherited shit and somehow made it worse. What could he possibly deserve even one mark for
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Post by shrewspotter on Aug 23, 2018 9:06:01 GMT
Season to dates been a disaster
Take last night , we had Allen and Fletcher who just couldn't keep hold of the ball, McClean that works hard but with no end product, a striker that played well but is bereft of confidence and the defence.....
The defence is worse than I've ever known it, Williams and Shawcross look like school kids, Shawcross either just lumps the ball forward or passes it to Jack to lump it forward, Williams has no pace and cannot pass either meaning our 2 Ch have no pace and cannot pass. Pieters is fucking woeful, he was at fault for 2 goals and caught out for the 3rd leaving Allen to track Powell.
The substitutions yesterday were a disgrace, every fucker could see Williams was a walking red, yet he subs one midfielder for another. Surely he should have gone with 3 at the back subbing Williams for Etebo.
Staying with subs, he pulls Ince off with a hammy and used Bojan as a left winger, then right winger, surely he should have played Bojan in the hole behind Berahino who he also took off despite being our best player.
The signings have been poor, Williams looks poor, there's a reason why WBA were quick to accept 6m for McClean, fuck knows why he's took on another right back when we already have 2.
The formation is old hat and it leaves Flether exposed too much and our slow back line.
Rowett needs to sort this out and now
1/10 for me for everything
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 23, 2018 9:26:08 GMT
No, its too early, give it 10 games and then we'll see, there's a lot to sort out, it was never going to happen over night, unfortunately it seems like there was much more than we thought.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 23, 2018 9:37:38 GMT
Very hard to tell what is going on but clear there is a llot happening behind the scenes which is affecting availability of certain players. He seems to have got a few things right such as getting more out of Berahino and spotting the defensive chaos but other decisions such as signing Maclean to play in a front 3 and pairing Allen and Fletcher which failed all last season are odd.
Nevertheless we have a better team on the bench that we fielded last night.
Federici Bauer Cameron Bruno Martina Etebo Badou Imbula Choupo Diouf Clucas
This excludes Crouch, Bojan, Souttar and Sorensen and writes off Adam and Afellay. Clearly some of these should come in as they are fit but I don’t see why the club can’t creat a package to motivate Badou and Choupo while writing off Cameron seems wrong at this point
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 23, 2018 9:45:13 GMT
I honestly thought we couldnt get any worse than Lambert.
He has somehow made us worse.
Lazy players arent physically ready for the Championship to a certain degree but STILL COME ON. Is Lambert available again ? hahahaha
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Post by stokienorthants on Aug 23, 2018 10:04:26 GMT
I can’t blame the guy for having to inherit shit but why did he have to buy another shed load? What a mess we’re in I never thought he could be worse than Lambert but he is.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Aug 23, 2018 10:04:41 GMT
STOP focussing on the bloody manager - we have had more managers than wins in 2018!
He is an appointment in the mould of the Coates family who are playing a game from the dark ages
The club is rotten from top to bottom. We are now leaking like a sieve with players not truning up, refusing to play, calling each other out and fighting
ANd yet Coates does not seem to thik the process is an issue. Well if he is happy to pump moeny in to an Academy that has produced zero then he is crazier than I thought
Ex players, pundits and now journos are calling it as most of us can see
The club is in total turmoil and if Coates does not act with a whole new board his money is next too useless other than us still existing
Only a radical restructure will turn this pile of rancid garbage around
I can see this really ending in tears
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Post by maliciousdamage on Aug 23, 2018 10:43:00 GMT
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Managed to take a shit team and add to it to make it even shitter
Seems very tactically inept beforeand during games oie subs, formations
Spent a fortune chasing shit like McClean who’s clearly useless but also a bad egg in the dressing room judging by reports of infighting last night and his arguing with his own players on the pitch
Can’t handle senior pros egos, can’t massage their egos to get performances out of them or to buy into playing the way he wants he’s alienating players you can tell by their body language on the pitch
Publicaly slates his players again not conducive to creating a bonded group that will die for the manager etc on the pitch
Has an air of arrogance, just watch him walk to and from the dug out pre and post kick off then talks a good game but says what he thinks the fans want to hear to deflect his own failings (admittedly last night he had to hold his hand up and take the blame as it couldn’t sink any lower)
I had a gut feeling he might be a fraud but I never thought it would turn out this bad and knowing Stokes board they won’t admit it’s not working until halfway through the next transfer window in Jan I just hope we’ve scrapped enough points by then to be mid table you can forget promotion
Honestly he reminds me of a failed car salesman has all the patter the swagger but can’t actually back it up in sales when it comes to the crunch
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Post by biglad180 on Aug 23, 2018 10:53:40 GMT
he might have inherited a shower of shit but the signings he as bought are shit. no one on this board wanted mclean. and ince looks a joke. Williams is a disgrace anyone could see he was going to get sent off last night. early doors but id get rid now. we are clueless His signings will take longer than 3 or 4 games to bed in and they're playing amongst a bunch of wasters and unfit squad members. is signings are shit and they wont bed in because of that reason.
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Post by stokeson on Aug 23, 2018 11:04:38 GMT
After 10 games will have an idea . Up to now better than Lambert.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Aug 23, 2018 11:11:45 GMT
Not having that we can't blame him and the club is too far gone, he's had the most money to spend of any manager in the league. He's been diabolically wank I can't believe anyone is defending his tenure thus far, it's been painfully obvious we need a holding mid and yet we are still playing fucking Darren Fletcher there, we have needed a new centre half and yet we'll be going into this weekend having to play Souttar and we only have two wingers too. We have two slots left for three positions it is essential we sign in, yet he signed shit like Cuco Martina. The players he has decided to sign are largely wank and from relegated teams, not only have we failed to shift deadwood but he has signed more in the form of McClean. We are devoid of confidence and he insists on spending huge sums on players just as mentally wrecked as those we already have. Persisted all pre-season with 4-3-3 only to drop it after a single game, not to mention now he is changing lineup every fixture now so what, he's been signing these players with no idea where to play them? Seems like it when we have Ince who isn't a winger for a 4-4-2, McClean who barely constitutes a winger at all and Afobe who is not a loan striker. He's taken an unbalanced squad and made it even more unbalanced. He's been wank, and I already look forward to seeing the back of him. Cannot argue with that really all i will say is he came with a glowing reputation that was well over hyped. He is out of his depth & clearly not up to sorting the mess out. We should have gone for an experienced manager who takes no shit & kicks some ass when needed Big Sam i think fits that bill but i do not see that happening with Coates in charge.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Aug 23, 2018 11:21:19 GMT
After 10 games will have an idea . Up to now better than Lambert. I'll have a bit of what you're on. How has he possibly been better than Lambert so far?
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Post by stokeson on Aug 23, 2018 11:29:23 GMT
Not got us relegated from the premiership.
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Post by reddipotter on Aug 23, 2018 11:31:33 GMT
I actually thought that over the first three games there was some slow progress, and a manager trying to work out the best team with the players he has. I could see the logic of his decisions, even if I didn't always agree with them. But last night was a mystery. For half an hour we looked okay, certainly better than Wigan, but as soon as they scored we completely fell apart. i suspect that Rowett was confused by it all, too, since his subs didn't seem to make much sense in the circumstances.
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