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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 22, 2018 21:48:11 GMT
You reap what you sow
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Post by hooftastic on Aug 22, 2018 21:49:04 GMT
I think you'll find all we need is another Spinks article telling us how amazing Cartwright is.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 22, 2018 21:57:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 21:59:24 GMT
The owners will regret that overhaul statement for a very long time.
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 22, 2018 22:04:51 GMT
A leopard never changes its spots. Coates had made his money. The cash taps are turned off and he doesn’t give a fuck. That's ridiculous of course he gives a fuck.He may be inept but he has invested to much not to give a fuck.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 22, 2018 22:27:41 GMT
Yep, accompanied by a fawning article in the magazine issue on the Brentford Saturday. Welcoming the apology of Coates and Son and welcoming the major overhaul, which was neither an apology or anything resembling any sort of overhaul, major or otherwise. I love the Oatcake, their creators deserve every bit of recognition they get for what they've produced and meant to people over the years and although this place has become somewhat a bastard love child of the brand to them, it is a massive legacy to have. However, what a sorry note to go out on, compared to the way they heroically rode into the fray. Completely misjudging the feeling of fans and justifying utter ineptitude and downright lies to us. Very sad.
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Post by stoneroses on Aug 22, 2018 22:31:53 GMT
From top to bottom as some prominent local commentators still maintain? It is diseased, rancid and decaying, festering in it own arrogance and ineptitude. The Coates family sit on a pile of putrid excrement entirely of their own making. The two biggest sources of this shit show of a decline remain in situ, so arrogant and comfortable in their own positions they think its funny to make another 'amusing' video about Pizzas as if that 'ambition' video didn't embarrass them enough. If we fall through the trap door again, which in no way seems implausible at this stage, everyone in positions of power at this football club will have the stain of it on their arrogant piss taking consciences forever. We are a fucking joke. Brilliant post He playing squad think the same
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 22, 2018 22:34:51 GMT
The owners will regret that overhaul statement for a very long time. Don't think they'll regret it at all, they'll just release an updated version and continue as usual!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 22:37:17 GMT
I can say this - this manager hasn't got fucking a clue what to do.
I blame the clueless fuckers that appointed him.
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Post by Absolution on Aug 22, 2018 22:38:29 GMT
The owners will regret that overhaul statement for a very long time. There's no evidence I've seen that by the next day they hadn't completely forgetten they'd even said it.
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Post by doitforfrank on Aug 22, 2018 22:45:38 GMT
Another shameful article in The Sentinel clearly vetted by the club. Shame that someone who helped bring about change through the Oatcake will allow their name to be put to such tosh.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 22:49:40 GMT
Perhaps an Icelandic consortium can take us over. And Coates can keep his golden shares again.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 22, 2018 22:52:06 GMT
From top to bottom as some prominent local commentators still maintain? It is diseased, rancid and decaying, festering in it own arrogance and ineptitude. The Coates family sit on a pile of putrid excrement entirely of their own making. The two biggest sources of this shit show of a decline remain in situ, so arrogant and comfortable in their own positions they think its funny to make another 'amusing' video about Pizzas as if that 'ambition' video didn't embarrass them enough. If we fall through the trap door again, which in no way seems implausible at this stage, everyone in positions of power at this football club will have the stain of it on their arrogant piss taking consciences forever. We are a fucking joke. I can’t see what all the fuss is about
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Post by Davef on Aug 22, 2018 22:53:36 GMT
Another shameful article in The Sentinel clearly vetted by the club. Shame that someone who helped bring about change through the Oatcake will allow their name to be put to such tosh. Utter bullshit and the kind of social media rumourmongering that Martin alluded to in his article.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 22, 2018 22:57:39 GMT
I can say this - this manager hasn't got fucking a clue what to do. I blame the clueless fuckers that appointed him. And paid £2m to get him , it's madness
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 23:00:14 GMT
It takes some shit to get me rattled.
That performance tonight just told me that we haven't got a chance in hell of surviving in this division.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 22, 2018 23:03:23 GMT
Another shameful article in The Sentinel clearly vetted by the club. Shame that someone who helped bring about change through the Oatcake will allow their name to be put to such tosh. Utter bullshit and the kind of social media rumourmongering that Martin alluded to in his article. You don't need that Dave for sure but something has to change and until it does it won't get better, I don't know who is pulling the strings , or who signs who but I'm guessing Rowett is responsible for McClean Ince and Williams at least and two are looking piss poor and the other average at best. We needed big change two years ago , heads needed to roll in the summer a d the sacrificial lamb was a bloke who at least made a slight difference. No lessons have been learned at all Its very sad .
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Post by AlanHansen on Aug 22, 2018 23:05:10 GMT
We've reaped what we've sown. Complacent from the ivory towers to the terraces. Those who spoke out two years ago were labelled as negative. Unfortunately we saw this coming.
You know who you are, I hope you're fucking happy.
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Post by doitforfrank on Aug 22, 2018 23:14:40 GMT
Another shameful article in The Sentinel clearly vetted by the club. Shame that someone who helped bring about change through the Oatcake will allow their name to be put to such tosh. Utter bullshit and the kind of social media rumourmongering that Martin alluded to in his article. Where’s the bullshit? The only bullshit is being spouted by the club via its media outlet, The Sentinel. FFS they are even re-hashing old articles to try and appease people. From the article “Gary Rowett can’t have the big ‘clear-out’ he doubtless wants if no-one wants the players he doesn’t. They’re under contract and we must pay them unless somebody else picks up their wages.” Who’s fault is that? Hughes? Lambert? Pulls even? No, it’s the people who draw up the contracts and sign their name for the shower of shit we are currently suffering. Martin has the “opportunity” to speak for the fans in his column, or does he? We are a complete mess and our transfer dealings are at the root of it.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 22, 2018 23:19:08 GMT
Utter bullshit and the kind of social media rumourmongering that Martin alluded to in his article. Where’s the bullshit? The only bullshit is being spouted by the club via its media outlet, The Sentinel. FFS they are even re-hashing old articles to try and appease people. From the article “Gary Rowett can’t have the big ‘clear-out’ he doubtless wants if no-one wants the players he doesn’t. They’re under contract and we must pay them unless somebody else picks up their wages.” Who’s fault is that? Hughes? Lambert? Pulls even? No, it’s the people who draw up the contracts and sign their name for the shower of shit we are currently suffering. Martin has the “opportunity” to speak for the fans in his column, or does he? We are a complete mess and our transfer dealings are at the root of it. The bullshit is stuff like people jumping on something Clive Clarke is purported to have said and holding it up as some sort of smoking gun. That’s as unhelpful as anything else.
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 23, 2018 2:21:55 GMT
Another shameful article in The Sentinel clearly vetted by the club. Shame that someone who helped bring about change through the Oatcake will allow their name to be put to such tosh. Clearly vetted by the club? Clearly? Explain.
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 23, 2018 2:55:57 GMT
Utter bullshit and the kind of social media rumourmongering that Martin alluded to in his article. Where’s the bullshit? The only bullshit is being spouted by the club via its media outlet, The Sentinel. FFS they are even re-hashing old articles to try and appease people. From the article “Gary Rowett can’t have the big ‘clear-out’ he doubtless wants if no-one wants the players he doesn’t. They’re under contract and we must pay them unless somebody else picks up their wages.” Who’s fault is that? Hughes? Lambert? Pulls even? No, it’s the people who draw up the contracts and sign their name for the shower of shit we are currently suffering. Martin has the “opportunity” to speak for the fans in his column, or does he? We are a complete mess and our transfer dealings are at the root of it. You appear to have missed the point... you said the article was clearly vetted by the club. That’s the bit he’s saying is bullshit.
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Post by skelman on Aug 23, 2018 6:10:57 GMT
Even the PR Dept is bolloxed ....... See - " Boss pulls no punches after Latcis defeat" on Stoke+ Latcis .... Jesus bloody wept!!!
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Post by loosestools on Aug 23, 2018 6:40:16 GMT
Even the PR Dept is bolloxed ....... See - " Boss pulls no punches after Latcis defeat" on Stoke+ Latcis .... Jesus bloody wept!!! Is that what you take for constipation?
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Post by Davef on Aug 23, 2018 6:57:47 GMT
Utter bullshit and the kind of social media rumourmongering that Martin alluded to in his article. Where’s the bullshit? The only bullshit is being spouted by the club via its media outlet, The Sentinel. FFS they are even re-hashing old articles to try and appease people. From the article “Gary Rowett can’t have the big ‘clear-out’ he doubtless wants if no-one wants the players he doesn’t. They’re under contract and we must pay them unless somebody else picks up their wages.” Who’s fault is that? Hughes? Lambert? Pulls even? No, it’s the people who draw up the contracts and sign their name for the shower of shit we are currently suffering. Martin has the “opportunity” to speak for the fans in his column, or does he? We are a complete mess and our transfer dealings are at the root of it. As a few people have pointed out, the bullshit is you stating that Martin's Sentinel articles are vetted by the club. The fanzine's opinions are like everybody else's, there to be shot at, and we're big enough to take criticism, but in 30 years, NOT ONE article that's appeared in the fanzine or submitted elsewhere has been vetted by the club.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Aug 23, 2018 7:17:11 GMT
A leopard never changes its spots. Coates had made his money. The cash taps are turned off and he doesn’t give a fuck. Eh? We’ve got the most expensively assembled squad in the Championship, you can accuse Coates of a few things but he definitely hasn’t turned off the cash taps.
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Post by cerebralstokie on Aug 23, 2018 7:52:17 GMT
A neighbour of mine has strong connections with Man.U. He was very close to Fergie when he was manager. He manages to get me a pair of tickets whenever Stoke are at Old Trafford. After the game last December he made two observations, 1. You will get relegated. 2. Shawcross is finished. At the start of this season he made two more observations. !. Stoke are in a mess. 2. Rowett is going from the frying pan into the fire. Something is clearly rotten at the core of Stoke City. Commercial decisions have been dire. We have let players go for far less than their true value (Nzonzi, Arnautovic, Shaquiri). We have bought players for far more than they are worth. I can only think that Tweedledum and Tweedledee have been at the heart of the decision making process in all of this. We need root and branch reform. I only hope that our new signings make good, but early signs are not encouraging. How is it, for example, that Etebo goes from being Man of the Match for Nigeria in one of their world cup games to just making the bench for us?
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Post by metalhead on Aug 23, 2018 8:52:18 GMT
Toxic is the correct word. Rot. Poison. Just two other potential words you could use.
At this point, I have come to the conclusion that we are in a state of managed decline. Coates may or may not have instigated this, but he is overseeing it and the fact people like Tony Scholes remain in their job proves categorically that PC is now fully on-board.
Even more concerning, is how far Coates is willing to let us fall? I suspect at the moment, while the money train is still running, nothing will change and we will continue to slip. Will he let us fall until the parachute payments end and then perhaps sell up and move on? We could be in League 2 by then.
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