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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 19, 2018 10:55:44 GMT
Where is the line drawn between backing the team or berating cos yesterday it was very blurred and causing a lot of dissension amongst the ranks.
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Aug 19, 2018 11:11:03 GMT
Booing in the 1st half, every time the team “hoofed it” particularly with Ryan and Butland. Did I hear that right? At 0-0
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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 19, 2018 11:12:43 GMT
1. We should never, ever boo our own players. Disgraceful.
2. One can both back the team and berate them at the same time. Though not by booing them on the pitch!
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 19, 2018 11:39:46 GMT
1. We should never, ever boo our own players. Disgraceful. 2. One can both back the team and berate them at the same time. Though not by booing them on the pitch! Yeah booing doesn't tick a box for me. I've berated plenty of times but booing just seems a step too far. |
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Post by Veritas on Aug 19, 2018 11:41:29 GMT
1. We should never, ever boo our own players. Disgraceful. 2. One can both back the team and berate them at the same time. Though not by booing them on the pitch! Yeah booing doesn't tick a box for me. I've berated plenty of times but booing just seems a step too far. Certainly not during the game |
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Aug 19, 2018 11:47:35 GMT
We got 2 back to back home games now, we need full backing from the stands.
Anything less than 4 points from theses games and I think things could get ugly.
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Post by lordb on Aug 19, 2018 11:49:00 GMT
1. We should never, ever boo our own players. Disgraceful. 2. One can both back the team and berate them at the same time. Though not by booing them on the pitch! Don't have a problem with booing at the end of a game,not during. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 11:58:13 GMT
That yesterday just wasn’t football was it? It’s pure dog shit. The 3 games played this season we’ve had 2 football lessons. Already we’re averaging that great stat of conceding 2 a game. That simply has to change. Wednesday could turn nasty if this shit continues. If people boo it’s up to them. They pay there money and if that’s how they get the message they aren’t happy then so be it. Me personally I don’t boo or clap, I generally walk off and rant on the walk back to the car.... which seems to be 85 minutes for the last 2 years...
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 19, 2018 12:16:22 GMT
That yesterday just wasn’t football was it? It’s pure dog shit. The 3 games played this season we’ve had 2 football lessons. Already we’re averaging that great stat of conceding 2 a game. That simply has to change. Wednesday could turn nasty if this shit continues. If people boo it’s up to them. They pay there money and if that’s how they get the message they aren’t happy then so be it. Me personally I don’t boo or clap, I generally walk off and rant on the walk back to the car.... which seems to be 85 minutes for the last 2 years... Wigan won't be a pushover mate so I expect it could get worse. |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 19, 2018 12:21:41 GMT
This habit of passing back to Butland for the hoof is something we have done for years now, but its got to stop.
The players look shot of confidence and scared of possession.
Booing is hardly likely to help that is it, but I can understand the frustrations from the supporters in the ground. Conversely they were very well supported yesterday when they did anything well
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 19, 2018 12:23:26 GMT
That yesterday just wasn’t football was it? It’s pure dog shit. The 3 games played this season we’ve had 2 football lessons. Already we’re averaging that great stat of conceding 2 a game. That simply has to change. Wednesday could turn nasty if this shit continues. If people boo it’s up to them. They pay there money and if that’s how they get the message they aren’t happy then so be it. Me personally I don’t boo or clap, I generally walk off and rant on the walk back to the car.... which seems to be 85 minutes for the last 2 years... How far away is your car parked or are you a slow walker?  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 12:24:07 GMT
That yesterday just wasn’t football was it? It’s pure dog shit. The 3 games played this season we’ve had 2 football lessons. Already we’re averaging that great stat of conceding 2 a game. That simply has to change. Wednesday could turn nasty if this shit continues. If people boo it’s up to them. They pay there money and if that’s how they get the message they aren’t happy then so be it. Me personally I don’t boo or clap, I generally walk off and rant on the walk back to the car.... which seems to be 85 minutes for the last 2 years... Wigan won't be a pushover mate so I expect it could get worse. Worryingly mate stoke were the first team I put on my coupon! Then again I’ve not had a coupon up for some time  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 12:24:28 GMT
That yesterday just wasn’t football was it? It’s pure dog shit. The 3 games played this season we’ve had 2 football lessons. Already we’re averaging that great stat of conceding 2 a game. That simply has to change. Wednesday could turn nasty if this shit continues. If people boo it’s up to them. They pay there money and if that’s how they get the message they aren’t happy then so be it. Me personally I don’t boo or clap, I generally walk off and rant on the walk back to the car.... which seems to be 85 minutes for the last 2 years... How far away is your car parked or are you a slow walker? Congleton |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 19, 2018 12:27:06 GMT
Going back to the op the crowd were remarkably patient and supportive towards the end of last season. After all the platitudes over the summer, coming from 'The Family', the realisation and anger seems to be coming to the fore. It could turn toxic very quickly!
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 19, 2018 12:51:02 GMT
Going back to the op the crowd were remarkably patient and supportive towards the end of last season. After all the platitudes over the summer, coming from 'The Family', the realisation and anger seems to be coming to the fore. It could turn toxic very quickly! Totally agree. Yesterday was as bad as I've heard in a long time. You could sense animosity towards the team and towards each other, where fans were divided between blind loyalty regardless of performance on the pitch and being pissed off with it all. Doenst tick the 'Vis Unita Fortior' moniker. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 19, 2018 13:40:12 GMT
Booing in the 1st half, every time the team “hoofed it” particularly with Ryan and Butland. Did I hear that right? At 0-0 You did. There was one twat in particular who spent the entire first half bawling and screaming at Jack and shawcross. Jack butland has posted an image of himself handing his gloved to the young mascot at the end of the game and right there, fully in shot, is the very same absolute wanker giving him hearty applause. We had some absolute scum amongst our ranks yesterday. |
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Post by thehoof on Aug 19, 2018 13:46:59 GMT
Booing in the 1st half, every time the team “hoofed it” particularly with Ryan and Butland. Did I hear that right? At 0-0 You did. There was one twat in particular who spent the entire first half bawling and screaming at Jack and shawcross. Jack butland has posted an image of himself handing his gloved to the young mascot at the end of the game and right there, fully in shot, is the very same absolute wanker giving him hearty applause. We had some absolute scum amongst our ranks yesterday. If it’s the one I’m thinking of Dave he was also shredding Pieters, shut up when he scored and then went ape following the goal from Pieters foul. This was when he wasn’t berating Fletcher and Allen. Certainly one of our more obvious fair minded fans. |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 19, 2018 14:12:32 GMT
You did. There was one twat in particular who spent the entire first half bawling and screaming at Jack and shawcross. Jack butland has posted an image of himself handing his gloved to the young mascot at the end of the game and right there, fully in shot, is the very same absolute wanker giving him hearty applause. We had some absolute scum amongst our ranks yesterday. If it’s the one I’m thinking of Dave he was also shredding Pieters, shut up when he scored and then went ape following the goal from Pieters foul. This was when he wasn’t berating Fletcher and Allen. Certainly one of our more obvious fair minded fans. Think I know who you were on about. Pretty sure it was the guy behind me. |
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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 19, 2018 14:55:25 GMT
1. We should never, ever boo our own players. Disgraceful. 2. One can both back the team and berate them at the same time. Though not by booing them on the pitch! Don't have a problem with booing at the end of a game,not during. I'll be honest, I'm not actually sure about that, now you come to mention it. I think I'd prefer complete silence as they walked off if they've played badly, but I don't think that's realistic in a football ground. |
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Post by shipshape on Aug 19, 2018 15:04:29 GMT
Pieters was getting all sorts of abuse from a fairly large contingent of pissed up kids behind me. Cunt this. Wanker that. Now Pieters has his limitations but as I tried to point out he doesn't pick himself and he isn't responsible for not buying a player to challenge him for 3 years. Cue abuse redirected at me. My "who are yer" after he netted did me no favours either. 😁
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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 19, 2018 15:06:23 GMT
Pieters was getting all sorts of abuse from a fairly large contingent of pissed up kids behind me. Cunt this. Wanker that. Now Pieters has his limitations but as I tried to point out he doesn't pick himself and he isn't responsible for not buying a player to challenge him for 3 years. Cue abuse redirected at me. My "who are yer" after he netted did me no favours either. 😁 He's certainly not the worst on the pitch at the moment, then again there's so many vying for that title it's impossible to pick one. |
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Post by shipshape on Aug 19, 2018 15:13:08 GMT
Pieters was getting all sorts of abuse from a fairly large contingent of pissed up kids behind me. Cunt this. Wanker that. Now Pieters has his limitations but as I tried to point out he doesn't pick himself and he isn't responsible for not buying a player to challenge him for 3 years. Cue abuse redirected at me. My "who are yer" after he netted did me no favours either. 😁 He's certainly not the worst on the pitch at the moment, then again there's so many vying for that title it's impossible to pick one. He's not. Players who don't try and take the piss deserve abuse. If poor players continue to get picked and not replaced the abuse should be directed at those responsible. |
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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 19, 2018 15:20:41 GMT
He's certainly not the worst on the pitch at the moment, then again there's so many vying for that title it's impossible to pick one. He's not. Players who don't try and take the piss deserve abuse. If poor players continue to get picked and not replaced the abuse should be directed at those responsible. I don't even think he's poor, generally. I think he's having a rough spell at the moment but he's not as bad as is made out and should certainly be able to play at this level. He also actually scored, which should never be overlooked, particularly not in this team. |
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Post by rawli on Aug 19, 2018 15:23:21 GMT
Booing in the 1st half, every time the team “hoofed it” particularly with Ryan and Butland. Did I hear that right? At 0-0 You did. There was one twat in particular who spent the entire first half bawling and screaming at Jack and shawcross. Jack butland has posted an image of himself handing his gloved to the young mascot at the end of the game and right there, fully in shot, is the very same absolute wanker giving him hearty applause. We had some absolute scum amongst our ranks yesterday. Was he wearing a trilby? Heard him and another bloke at it - the other one was telling him to support the team. Booing was incredible yesterday - what can Butland do when the opposition press (as they all do to us now). His only option when he gets the ball back from the centre half is to belt it. |
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Post by shipshape on Aug 19, 2018 15:29:06 GMT
He's not. Players who don't try and take the piss deserve abuse. If poor players continue to get picked and not replaced the abuse should be directed at those responsible. I don't even think he's poor, generally. Nor do I particularly. |
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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 19, 2018 15:30:58 GMT
I don't even think he's poor, generally. Nor do I particularly. Certainly, he isn't on my "ship 'em out" list which is high praise indeed these days. I also don't cringe when he's in the starting line up like I do with some (sadly now that actually includes Ryan). |
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Post by lordb on Aug 19, 2018 15:32:48 GMT
Don't have a problem with booing at the end of a game,not during. I'll be honest, I'm not actually sure about that, now you come to mention it. I think I'd prefer complete silence as they walked off if they've played badly, but I don't think that's realistic in a football ground. Absolute indifferent silence... Sounds like my first marriage... |
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Post by rorystowel on Aug 19, 2018 15:33:00 GMT
Our ball hoofing is embarrassing, but not half as embarrassing as having so called fans who boo our own team during the match. Shameful. If you need vent, do it on a forum.  |
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Post by shipshape on Aug 19, 2018 15:35:23 GMT
Certainly, he isn't on my "ship 'em out" list which is high praise indeed these days. I also don't cringe when he's in the starting line up like I do with some (sadly now that actually includes Ryan). Fletcher or fucking Fletcher as I call him when I hear he starts yet again. Can't abuse him though. Not his fault he's past it. He puts the effort in. Just not good enough yet managers continue to pick him. |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Aug 19, 2018 15:45:03 GMT
It is just human nature
Pre match and for the first 10 mins I thought the crowd was in fine voice and full of backing. Then at the end the majority, rightly or wrongly clapped the team. It is only natural as that sort football unfurls in front of your eyes that supporters get more and more wound up and vent their frustrations Most do it by talking to each other about how bad we currently are and some shout or boo
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