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Post by toppercorner on Aug 16, 2018 12:24:53 GMT
It's finally starting to happen I've been banging on about this for ages to anyone who'll listen. Absolutely shit for the match going supporter. www.theguardian.com/football/2018/aug/16/la-liga-stage-match-usI know it's La Liga, but other leagues, especially the PL, will be watching closely. Soon we'll all be able to watch Many vs Man City at the hollywood bowl, at 1am on a Sunday morning to suit the US market. The month after, Liverpool Vs Arsenal in New York, etc .. The problem with the Spanish league is that they don't 'generally' have that home/away experience for the supporters, so it won't be as such a big a deal to them. PLus the amount of Spanish speaking citizens of the US may have a bit more interest Hypothetically, if we were back in the prem by the time the inevitable happens, would you be happy to see this / travel to this, or like me, would you be in right mood about it? Would the chairman even entertain the idea, after all, travel, jet lag et all have impacts on following games. |
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 16, 2018 12:29:17 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 16, 2018 12:36:08 GMT
I had a Twitter argument with a USA spurs fan. An American bloke. I suggested Burnley v Brighton wouldn't pack them into Soldier field on a Saturday evening. He said it wouldn't work like that and a few blockbusters would be held overseas. I asked if he'd like Spurs to play at home to Arse in the USA and he reckoned he'd love it.
What was strange was he would be happy to concede home advantage against their most deadly rivals.
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Post by toppercorner on Aug 16, 2018 12:45:27 GMT
I had a Twitter argument with a USA spurs fan. An American bloke. I suggested Burnley v Brighton wouldn't pack them into Soldier field on a Saturday evening. He said it wouldn't work like that and a few blockbusters would be held overseas. I asked if he'd like Spurs to play at home to Arse in the USA and he reckoned he'd love it. What was strange was he would be happy to concede home advantage against their most deadly rivals. Arsenal will always be favoured by the footballing powers. They are always helped with their fixtures no matter where it is. Such a wank idea. It'll lead to a breakaway league, and the prem money will dry up as it goes to the new 'global soccer league' or whatever bollocks they call it, and lots and lots of teams will struggle financially. |
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Post by Picasso on Aug 16, 2018 13:18:25 GMT
Aside from the fact that this should never happen... Surely, unless every team played a ‘home’ (or ‘away’) game overseas, in the course of one season, the fixture list would be uneven, favouring some teams over others. With all the money involved, how can that be allowed?
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Post by wuzza on Aug 16, 2018 13:56:06 GMT
Frankly the sooner they start a genuine World League the better.
Let the armchair glory hunters fill their boots and the rest of us will just get on with watching our teams in a more even and competitive environment.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 16, 2018 14:14:58 GMT
Aside from the fact that this should never happen... Surely, unless every team played a ‘home’ (or ‘away’) game overseas, in the course of one season, the fixture list would be uneven, favouring some teams over others. With all the money involved, how can that be allowed? Because it would generate even more money for the teams involved I would imagine. |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Aug 16, 2018 15:29:12 GMT
Aside from the fact that this should never happen... Surely, unless every team played a ‘home’ (or ‘away’) game overseas, in the course of one season, the fixture list would be uneven, favouring some teams over others. With all the money involved, how can that be allowed? In a business model where merchandise and TV revenue is more important that the paying fan (see other thread from earlier in the week on this subject) - this seems inevitable. It happens in American sports where the Cincinnati Fudgetunnelers play "home" games at Wembley - while the Aviva Premiership have sanctioned domestic rugby fixtures to be played outside the UK (London Irish and Saracens are two I can recall). The day Stoke start doing it is the day I hand my season ticket back for good. |
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Aug 16, 2018 20:02:53 GMT
The day Stoke start doing it is the day I hand my season ticket back for good. ...and Stoke at best would still only be playing in Cleveland or Detroit. |
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Post by onefatcopper on Aug 16, 2018 20:22:11 GMT
I had a Twitter argument with a USA spurs fan. An American bloke. I suggested Burnley v Brighton wouldn't pack them into Soldier field on a Saturday evening. He said it wouldn't work like that and a few blockbusters would be held overseas. I asked if he'd like Spurs to play at home to Arse in the USA and he reckoned he'd love it. What was strange was he would be happy to concede home advantage against their most deadly rivals. Arsenal will always be favoured by the footballing powers. They are always helped with their fixtures no matter where it is. Such a wank idea. It'll lead to a breakaway league, and the prem money will dry up as it goes to the new 'global soccer league' or whatever bollocks they call it, and lots and lots of teams will struggle financially. And this why Amazon have dipped their toe into the Premier League pay per view market, it’s what Sky would do if there was a breakaway as they are not in the same league financially as Amazon. Would Sky be happy to cover the highlights package from a global league or would they try to form a new league with whatever’s left of the premier league and the big hitters from the EFL championship? |
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Post by chad on Aug 16, 2018 20:29:27 GMT
The end is nigh.......
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Post by stokie1082 on Aug 17, 2018 11:07:12 GMT
It's finally starting to happen I've been banging on about this for ages to anyone who'll listen. Absolutely shit for the match going supporter. www.theguardian.com/football/2018/aug/16/la-liga-stage-match-usI know it's La Liga, but other leagues, especially the PL, will be watching closely. Soon we'll all be able to watch Many vs Man City at the hollywood bowl, at 1am on a Sunday morning to suit the US market. The month after, Liverpool Vs Arsenal in New York, etc .. The problem with the Spanish league is that they don't 'generally' have that home/away experience for the supporters, so it won't be as such a big a deal to them. PLus the amount of Spanish speaking citizens of the US may have a bit more interest Hypothetically, if we were back in the prem by the time the inevitable happens, would you be happy to see this / travel to this, or like me, would you be in right mood about it? Would the chairman even entertain the idea, after all, travel, jet lag et all have impacts on following games. So when are we playing in North Korea then. That should be a BANGER. |
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Post by onefatcopper on Aug 17, 2018 14:37:21 GMT
It's finally starting to happen I've been banging on about this for ages to anyone who'll listen. Absolutely shit for the match going supporter. www.theguardian.com/football/2018/aug/16/la-liga-stage-match-usI know it's La Liga, but other leagues, especially the PL, will be watching closely. Soon we'll all be able to watch Many vs Man City at the hollywood bowl, at 1am on a Sunday morning to suit the US market. The month after, Liverpool Vs Arsenal in New York, etc .. The problem with the Spanish league is that they don't 'generally' have that home/away experience for the supporters, so it won't be as such a big a deal to them. PLus the amount of Spanish speaking citizens of the US may have a bit more interest Hypothetically, if we were back in the prem by the time the inevitable happens, would you be happy to see this / travel to this, or like me, would you be in right mood about it? Would the chairman even entertain the idea, after all, travel, jet lag et all have impacts on following games. So when are we playing in North Korea then. That should be a BANGER. They have already lined up Bobby Manley as the Ref, as they are renowned for eating dog 🐶 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2018 14:46:20 GMT
I hope it never happens. If it does though, the only way would be to have a 39th game period where, at the start of the season, a draw takes place to create 10 extra fixtures. This is problematic in itself because, if a relegation struggler is drawn against an elite club whilst two other relegation strugglers face one another, then clearly it disadvantages the former, and the same problem reversed for title-challengers. It’s a bastard of an idea.
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Post by toppercorner on Nov 2, 2018 20:50:13 GMT
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Post by thestatusquo on Nov 2, 2018 21:01:24 GMT
We’re doomed! We are all doomed!!
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Post by onefatcopper on Nov 2, 2018 21:21:09 GMT
The power struggle between clubs and leagues versus their governing bodies had its first salvo when it was proposed that a Spanish La Liga match could be played on a different continent, the United States. The bosses of La Liga bottled making the final decision and so past it back to the clubs to decide, where some were For and some Against. A final decision and a appeal for calm was only made this week with FIFA/UEFA ruling against the match, but as we saw with the formation of the Premier League the Clubs usually get what they want and Money from the Amazon on line format is the incentive.
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Post by salopstick on Nov 2, 2018 23:32:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 23:37:36 GMT
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 3, 2018 0:04:22 GMT
From BBC report:
"The new competition, it is claimed, would involve 11 of Europe's biggest clubs, known as the "founders", along with five "initial guests".
The so-called founders, who would include the seven clubs named above along with Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City and Paris St-Germain, would not face relegation and would be guaranteed membership for 20 years."
Let them get on with it I say. Amazing how little interest I have in the Prem these days since we were relegated.
The bubble is going to get bigger and bigger then burst.
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 3, 2018 1:04:38 GMT
From BBC report: "The new competition, it is claimed, would involve 11 of Europe's biggest clubs, known as the "founders", along with five "initial guests".
The so-called founders, who would include the seven clubs named above along with Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City and Paris St-Germain, would not face relegation and would be guaranteed membership for 20 years."
Let them get on with it I say. Amazing how little interest I have in the Prem these days since we were relegated. The bubble is going to get bigger and bigger then burst. This would be wonderful for English football. It would restore a sense of our League being a proper competition again without all these Billy BigBollock-like clubs |
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 3, 2018 1:11:28 GMT
I can’t help but chuckle that Spurs have been left out... Imagine how disgruntled they’d be at being left in Blighty with the plebs  Spose they’d have a few titles to look forward to at least... |
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Post by crowey on Nov 3, 2018 5:40:54 GMT
.... and don’t ever let the bastards back into our domestic league
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2018 8:51:50 GMT
No one is leaving the domestic leagues,this new Euro league is INSTEAD of the champions league
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Post by StoKeith on Nov 3, 2018 9:01:51 GMT
No one is leaving the domestic leagues,this new Euro league is INSTEAD of the champions league Really? That’s 30 games they’d have to sandwich in around the 38 PL games plus FA Cup and League Cup. The Champions League currently takes 13 matches if you get to the final. I can’t see where they would suddenly be able to fit 17 more matches in? Unless they want their reserves in the domestic league. That would be incredibly shit. |
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 3, 2018 9:01:58 GMT
No one is leaving the domestic leagues,this new Euro league is INSTEAD of the champions league "The newspaper claims leaked documents show the breakaway league could be created in 2021 and see clubs involved leave their national leagues and football associations." I know it's the combination of a newspaper and a claim, but fingers crossed eh! |
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 3, 2018 9:03:41 GMT
No one is leaving the domestic leagues,this new Euro league is INSTEAD of the champions league Really? That’s 30 games they’d have to sandwich in around the 38 PL games plus FA Cup and League Cup. The Champions League currently takes 13 matches if you get to the final. I can’t see where they would suddenly be able to fit 17 more matches in? Unless they want their reserves in the domestic league. That would be incredibly shit. I think their B teams will be rebranded and compete in the Prem and they would still be able to hire the best of the rest in terms of players. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 3, 2018 9:11:48 GMT
I'd draw the curtains if they were playing on my back lawn. I'd watch a soap opera if it was on BBC1. Zero interest in this nonsense.
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Post by ravey123 on Nov 3, 2018 9:19:37 GMT
From BBC report: "The new competition, it is claimed, would involve 11 of Europe's biggest clubs, known as the "founders", along with five "initial guests".
The so-called founders, who would include the seven clubs named above along with Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City and Paris St-Germain, would not face relegation and would be guaranteed membership for 20 years."
Let them get on with it I say. Amazing how little interest I have in the Prem these days since we were relegated. The bubble is going to get bigger and bigger then burst. It also states that the initial 11 "founders" will not be able to be relegated for the first 20 years - that's not going to go stale is it????????? The sooner these greedy clubs sod off the better - the one thing a rich person/club wants is more money - then when they get more money the next thing they want is more money. As soon as something goes stale it all starts to unravel -sod them off I say and let's start to get our game back. |
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 3, 2018 9:26:38 GMT
From BBC report: "The new competition, it is claimed, would involve 11 of Europe's biggest clubs, known as the "founders", along with five "initial guests".
The so-called founders, who would include the seven clubs named above along with Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City and Paris St-Germain, would not face relegation and would be guaranteed membership for 20 years."
Let them get on with it I say. Amazing how little interest I have in the Prem these days since we were relegated. The bubble is going to get bigger and bigger then burst. It also states that the initial 11 "founders" will not be able to be relegated for the first 20 years - that's not going to go stale is it????????? The sooner these greedy clubs sod off the better - the one thing a rich person/club wants is more money - then when they get more money the next thing they want is more money. As soon as something goes stale it all starts to unravel -sod them off I say and let's start to get our game back. They designed the Champs League so that it would be virtually impossible for the big boys to not qualify....but because the likes of Man Utd and Arse have contrived to fuck even that up, they are looking for a more secure model. |
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