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Post by chigstoke on Aug 13, 2018 9:10:23 GMT
ArticleLooks like Rowett putting his foot down.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 9:13:10 GMT
Saying it and getting shot in a way that gives us wriggle room to bring players in are two different things though.....
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 13, 2018 9:15:09 GMT
As Percy articles go, that's more of a shoulder shrug than anything else.
Everything in there seems pretty obvious.
The only mild surprise is supposed top-flight continental interest in Cameron.
We've wanted rid of those 4 and a few more all summer, and we've had no decent bites by the looks of it
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Post by chigstoke on Aug 13, 2018 9:15:27 GMT
Saying it and getting shot in a way that gives us wriggle room to bring players in are two different things though..... Quite. Here's hoping though, but can't help but feel Imbula will get another shit loan and Choupo will just leech us from us if he can't get a move to the high standards that he so desires. |
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Post by smallthorner on Aug 13, 2018 9:16:28 GMT
Makes me laugh this type of article.
Think the most important thing is who the fudge wants them ...
It's a question if you could even give them away and pay half their wages.
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Post by philb on Aug 13, 2018 9:17:03 GMT
Bit surprised Cameron has been told he can leave, especially with how poor we’ve been in midfield defensive wise. They must have someone in mind for that role.
Not surprised with the others to be honest.
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Post by rawli on Aug 13, 2018 9:17:09 GMT
Lovely weather
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 9:18:12 GMT
Saying it and getting shot in a way that gives us wriggle room to bring players in are two different things though..... Quite. Here's hoping though, but can't help but feel Imbula will get another shit loan and Choupo will just leech us from us if he can't get a move to the high standards that he so desires. I think Cameron will be easy enough, Adam will end up at Championship standard or below or Scotland which means the loaning team will contribute very little, Imbula will end up abroad with against us subsidising his wage heavily. Choupo-Moting would have plenty of interest I’m sure but would he be prepared to take a wage drop to play football regularly? |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 13, 2018 9:31:40 GMT
Quite. Here's hoping though, but can't help but feel Imbula will get another shit loan and Choupo will just leech us from us if he can't get a move to the high standards that he so desires. I think Cameron will be easy enough, Adam will end up at Championship standard or below or Scotland which means the loaning team will contribute very little, Imbula will end up abroad with against us subsidising his wage heavily. Choupo-Moting would have plenty of interest I’m sure but would he be prepared to take a wage drop to play football regularly? Why would Choupo Moting be taking a wage cut when we'd still be paying his wages? |
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Post by roylandstoke on Aug 13, 2018 9:32:02 GMT
From what i´ve seen of the championship Charlie Adam just is not fit enough to get a game. We will not be able to move him unless we pay his wages or he takes a substantial pay cut.
Given our defensive frailties I would surprised to see Cameron leave. If the current starters don´t show massive improvement Cameron is our best option for CB and DCM.
No one at the club seems able to solve the Imbula problem. Have we tried professional sports psychologists? If we are not going to persevere get rid as soon as possible. Accept that there will be a large financial loss.
Choupo should be playing. He is by far our best option for left side in a 433. If he refuses to play, fine him and stick him with the youth team, let him know we are prepared to let him waste the last few years of his career. I know this is another financial loss but I think we have to take a stand. If he wants to leave he needs to convince someone to pay for his services.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 13, 2018 9:34:07 GMT
If Geoff goes we're one injury away from playing Souttar, is he ready?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 9:37:10 GMT
I think Cameron will be easy enough, Adam will end up at Championship standard or below or Scotland which means the loaning team will contribute very little, Imbula will end up abroad with against us subsidising his wage heavily. Choupo-Moting would have plenty of interest I’m sure but would he be prepared to take a wage drop to play football regularly? Why would Choupo Moting be taking a wage cut when we'd still be paying his wages? Because teams will want him on a permanent deal, we’d have to make a “loyalty” (snigger) payment to make up the shortfall. Whatever we think of him I think he’ll be a player of interest abroad.... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 9:39:12 GMT
From what i´ve seen of the championship Charlie Adam just is not fit enough to get a game. We will not be able to move him unless we pay his wages or he takes a substantial pay cut. Given our defensive frailties I would surprised to see Cameron leave. If the current starters don´t show massive improvement Cameron is our best option for CB and DCM. No one at the club seems able to solve the Imbula problem. Have we tried professional sports psychologists? If we are not going to persevere get rid as soon as possible. Accept that there will be a large financial loss. Choupo should be playing. He is by far our best option for left side in a 433. If he refuses to play, fine him and stick him with the youth team, let him know we are prepared to let him waste the last few years of his career. I know this is another financial loss but I think we have to take a stand. If he wants to leave he needs to convince someone to pay for his services. Whilst I agree Choupo-Moting would add to the team the fact that he’s been banished to train with the under 23’s shows there’s an issue between player and manager. To what extent nobody knows.... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 9:40:09 GMT
I thought Cameron would have been right up his street?
Oh well, you live and learn.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 13, 2018 9:40:54 GMT
Why would Choupo Moting be taking a wage cut when we'd still be paying his wages? Because teams will want him on a permanent deal, we’d have to make a “loyalty” (snigger) payment to make up the shortfall. Whatever we think of him I think he’ll be a player of interest abroad.... If he goes he'll go out on loan. He honours his contracts so he can go on a free and get big signing on bonuses every 3 years. |
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Post by Gods on Aug 13, 2018 9:41:48 GMT
"Free to leave"  Is that a polite way of telling them he won't be selecting them so if they want to play football this year they'd better get their agents on the case quick smart? Otherwise I suppose they are quite entitled to just 'sit' and count Peter's pound notes. Either way it's a great shame, Imbula and Choupo at least still have the capability to greatly improve our team. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 9:47:17 GMT
Because teams will want him on a permanent deal, we’d have to make a “loyalty” (snigger) payment to make up the shortfall. Whatever we think of him I think he’ll be a player of interest abroad.... If he goes he'll go out on loan. He honours his contracts so he can go on a free and get big signing on bonuses every 3 years. He’s honoured contracts previously. He’s never been banished to train with the kids before though. Not easy living somewhere you probably don’t want to live, and working somewhere you don’t want to work at for 2 years when there’s an escape route out...... |
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Post by musik on Aug 13, 2018 9:49:39 GMT
that gives us room to bring players in Is it because: 1) We can't afford to pay wages both to players who play regularly, and to those who are never/seldom even on the bench? Have the executives somewhere actually expressed that, or is just how we can feel as fans when it comes to running a business? 2) We can bring players in at last, because there are rules saying you can as club as a maximum have, let's say, "30 players in a squad"? 3) Moaning players affect the whole group? |
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Post by marrer on Aug 13, 2018 9:51:28 GMT
For... Next person to complete |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 13, 2018 10:01:46 GMT
Has Choupo actually said that he wants to leave or that he won't play for us, I haven't seen him quoted anywhere. Is it just a personality clash with GR?
I still think Choupo would be an asset in the Championship for us.
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Post by tribe on Aug 13, 2018 10:04:19 GMT
I'm surprised we haven't been able to get a fee for Cameron...
Well I'm not surprised at all but we should have been able to sell him.
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Post by stoneroses on Aug 13, 2018 10:04:49 GMT
Has Choupo actually said that he wants to leave or that he won't play for us, I haven't seen him quoted anywhere. Is it just a personality clash with GR? I still think Choupo would be an asset in the Championship for us. The guy is poison and needs fucking off on loan even if we have to pay. |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 13, 2018 10:05:55 GMT
Has Choupo actually said that he wants to leave or that he won't play for us, I haven't seen him quoted anywhere. Is it just a personality clash with GR? I still think Choupo would be an asset in the Championship for us. The guy is poison and needs fucking off on loan even if we have to pay. That your subjective opinion or do you have something to back it up? |
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Post by Dingdangdoo on Aug 13, 2018 10:06:07 GMT
We’ve had numerous fans demanding a cull.
It seems this is the list.
We don’t know what goes on behind the scenes and/or at training
Hopefully we can shift them somehow and move forward with some new faces
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Post by xchpotter on Aug 13, 2018 10:08:53 GMT
Out of all of them I’d keep Geoff if I had to. Nearest thing to a defensive midfielder we have.
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Post by wuzza on Aug 13, 2018 10:09:18 GMT
Like others here I find it very odd that Cameron wasn’t considered a fairly important player in current circumstances.
The only logical explanation is that he wants to go.
Charlie in theory is just what we need - someone who can pick a pass and can chip in with a few goals. Problem is it doesn’t look like the opposition are going to give him the time to do it!
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Post by stokemark on Aug 13, 2018 10:09:35 GMT
So that’s an £18m hit on Imbula then
What a tragic waste of money
Thanks Mark
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Post by Absolution on Aug 13, 2018 10:15:20 GMT
Like others here I find it very odd that Cameron wasn’t considered a fairly important player in current circumstances. The only logical explanation is that he wants to go. Charlie in theory is just what we need - someone who can pick a pass and can chip in with a few goals. Problem is it doesn’t look like the opposition are going to give him the time to do it! The Brentford keeper spent so much time wandering about outside the 18 yard box on Saturday, Charlie would have had a hat-trick without breaking into a trot. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 10:20:14 GMT
DEADWOOD
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 10:21:40 GMT
Has Choupo actually said that he wants to leave or that he won't play for us, I haven't seen him quoted anywhere. Is it just a personality clash with GR? I still think Choupo would be an asset in the Championship for us. The guy is poison and needs fucking off on loan even if we have to pay. I keep hearing this, but nothing from Rowett. Least he keeps quiet unlike Adam |
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