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Post by george2again on Aug 12, 2018 12:13:04 GMT
Well he certainly isn't going to offer much going forward - he was the worst on the pitch yesterday. No pace or skill to get past a man and with little end product. He is just like a robot who runs into dead ends. If we are going to persevere with one up front we need two players close to him with pace and ability, McClean is miles away from that man. In my opinion its just a massive flaw in the system Rowett seems to want to go with. I think his attributes suit full back much better and we should be looking at a pacy left sided front player.
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 12, 2018 12:15:28 GMT
He’s been chasing this guy for ages , why I don’t know
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Post by maine on Aug 12, 2018 12:16:52 GMT
I think this is overly critical of his efforts so far, but there might be a case for trying him as an attacking left back.
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Post by wuzza on Aug 12, 2018 12:22:06 GMT
Exactly my comment at the match yesterday.
As a winger he makes a pretty good full back.
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Post by biglad180 on Aug 12, 2018 12:22:30 GMT
I would have thought with rowett knowing the championship well he would have taken the best players he could get out of it. but we seem to have gone backwards in our signings. we still have no creativity and pace in our team. sort it out for its to late. and fuck the cunts off who are not up for the shirt
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Post by george2again on Aug 12, 2018 12:22:41 GMT
Forget political wranglings, he is a very basic footballer with little sklil or pace. Hes just not going to fire in the goals or be a source of supply. He plays in a position(the same as Ince) that requires pace and skill and goals. Seriously who can see him doing that? Were effectively playing with one attacker down. His whole game seems like he was made for full back and I reckon this is the way forward for him. he showed why so many didn't want him yesterday on ability only - truly awful.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 12, 2018 12:24:02 GMT
Exactly my comment at the match yesterday. As a winger he makes a pretty good full back. As a winger he makes no sense, as a full back he can't tackle. |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Aug 12, 2018 12:25:04 GMT
I hope for Preston, he's left-back.
Left-back at the fucking training ground, I mean.
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Post by wuzza on Aug 12, 2018 12:25:38 GMT
Exactly my comment at the match yesterday. As a winger he makes a pretty good full back. As a winger he makes no sense, as a full back he can't tackle. Looks a better bet than Peiters does right now. |
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Post by Trouserdog on Aug 12, 2018 12:28:04 GMT
He reminds me of the type of player Pulis used to get a stonk-on for: a wide player who'd run all day long but with absolutely fuck all skill.
Not sure how he'd do at LB but to me, McClean is the sort of player you'd stick at LM if playing a defensive 4-4-2. In fact, I can't see him being any use in any other system.
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Post by redrob on Aug 12, 2018 12:42:44 GMT
he's ideal for the bomb squad!
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Post by george2again on Aug 12, 2018 12:49:33 GMT
He reminds me of the type of player Pulis used to get a stonk-on for: a wide player who'd run all day long but with absolutely fuck all skill. Not sure how he'd do at LB but to me, McClean is the sort of player you'd stick at LM if playing a defensive 4-4-2. In fact, I can't see him being any use in any other system. Just gives us so little going forward.He very limited. |
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 12, 2018 12:52:21 GMT
As a winger he makes no sense, as a full back he can't tackle. Looks a better bet than Peiters does right now. So do I but I won't be holding my breath for the call  , seriously I don't see why we have signed him at all as a winger, no pace, no skill, can't cross a ball, can't control a ball, doesn't create fuck all and can't score  |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 12, 2018 12:53:27 GMT
Looks a better bet than Peiters does right now. So do I but I won't be holding my breath for the call , seriously I don't see why we have signed him at all as a winger, no pace, no skill, can't cross a ball, can't control a ball, doesn't create fuck all and can't score He does have pace. I mean, he was crap yesterday but don’t just make shit up. |
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 12, 2018 12:58:12 GMT
So do I but I won't be holding my breath for the call , seriously I don't see why we have signed him at all as a winger, no pace, no skill, can't cross a ball, can't control a ball, doesn't create fuck all and can't score He does have pace. I mean, he was crap yesterday but don’t just make shit up. Because he runs about a lot doesn't mean he has any pace, we need pace in this division from our wingers if this system is going to work, he hasn't got the pace required. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 12, 2018 13:00:11 GMT
He does have pace. I mean, he was crap yesterday but don’t just make shit up. Because he runs about a lot doesn't mean he has any pace, we need pace in this division from our wingers if this system is going to work, he hasn't got the pace required. No, it’s because he runs quickly that means he has pace, as he’s demonstrated throughout his career and against Wolves in pre-season and at Leeds last week. Genuine concerns about a lack of quality in his performances for us so far but he’s clearly quick. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 13:02:09 GMT
What does McClean do on the left better than Choupo Moting who did at least cross in more deadly balls!
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 12, 2018 13:02:16 GMT
He does have pace. I mean, he was crap yesterday but don’t just make shit up. Because he runs about a lot doesn't mean he has any pace, we need pace in this division from our wingers if this system is going to work, he hasn't got the pace required. He was one of the fastest players in the Prem 2 years ago, I haven't seen recent stats but he's not slow. |
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 12, 2018 13:06:59 GMT
Because he runs about a lot doesn't mean he has any pace, we need pace in this division from our wingers if this system is going to work, he hasn't got the pace required. He was one of the fastest players in the Prem 2 years ago, I haven't seen recent stats but he's not slow. 2 years ago I was two years younger than I am now. |
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 12, 2018 13:09:57 GMT
Because he runs about a lot doesn't mean he has any pace, we need pace in this division from our wingers if this system is going to work, he hasn't got the pace required. No, it’s because he runs quickly that means he has pace, as he’s demonstrated throughout his career and against Wolves in pre-season and at Leeds last week. Genuine concerns about a lack of quality in his performances for us so far but he’s clearly quick. Speaking to WBA fans at work they reckon he has lost his pace, they don't rate him at all then again they didn't rate Fletcher or Berahino ! apart from hard work what else does he bring to the team ? |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 12, 2018 13:10:58 GMT
He was one of the fastest players in the Prem 2 years ago, I haven't seen recent stats but he's not slow. 2 years ago I was two years younger than I am now. For the avoidance of doubt are you saying McC is slow? |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 12, 2018 13:12:17 GMT
No, it’s because he runs quickly that means he has pace, as he’s demonstrated throughout his career and against Wolves in pre-season and at Leeds last week. Genuine concerns about a lack of quality in his performances for us so far but he’s clearly quick. Speaking to WBA fans at work they reckon he has lost his pace, they don't rate him at all then again they didn't rate Fletcher or Berahino ! apart from hard work what else does he bring to the team ? From what we’ve seen so far as a Stoke player he looks quick. Again, there are concerns about his quality but it isn’t true to say he has no pace. We never hear much from you about what players you’d like us to sign, what manager you’d like us to appoint, what team you’d pick. That might be a nice change of pace from just constantly criticising everything with literally every post? |
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Aug 12, 2018 13:21:59 GMT
He reminds me of the type of player Pulis used to get a stonk-on for: a wide player who'd run all day long but with absolutely fuck all skill. Not sure how he'd do at LB but to me, McClean is the sort of player you'd stick at LM if playing a defensive 4-4-2. In fact, I can't see him being any use in any other system. This is the only way I can make sense of his signing. Long term I am wondering if the plan is 4 4 2. Something like Butland Bauer Indi Williams Pieters Ritchie Clucas Allen McClean Ince Afobe That side should be a competitive 11. The only problem being that the ball player and creative inspiration we have been unable to sign, leaving us in a bad place. |
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Post by musik on Aug 12, 2018 13:30:17 GMT
No. I don't want any penalties.
Maybe he should be tested in the center midfield, but frankly I don't know.
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Post by wuzza on Aug 12, 2018 13:35:39 GMT
Looks a better bet than Peiters does right now. So do I but I won't be holding my breath for the call , seriously I don't see why we have signed him at all as a winger, no pace, no skill, can't cross a ball, can't control a ball, doesn't create fuck all and can't score True - I might dust off my old number 3 shirt myself if I can find it in the attic. I honestly had some hopes for McLean as I thought he had often caused us problems - usually coming off the bench. However yesterday was such a dreadful performance from him I do wonder if , as with so many of our signing in recent times , all his better work is behind him and he has arrived here as his first stop on the road to obscurity. |
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 12, 2018 13:45:44 GMT
Speaking to WBA fans at work they reckon he has lost his pace, they don't rate him at all then again they didn't rate Fletcher or Berahino ! apart from hard work what else does he bring to the team ? From what we’ve seen so far as a Stoke player he looks quick. Again, there are concerns about his quality but it isn’t true to say he has no pace. We never hear much from you about what players you’d like us to sign, what manager you’d like us to appoint, what team you’d pick. That might be a nice change of pace from just constantly criticising everything with literally every post? I have already stated on numerous occasions I would have gone for Sam if he would have come is another matter, I wouldn't be looking to sign over the hill players for a start, I have managed at lower levels, starting with a system you believe in then bringing in players that fit into that system is the way to go, it isn't rocket science. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 12, 2018 14:31:19 GMT
From what we’ve seen so far as a Stoke player he looks quick. Again, there are concerns about his quality but it isn’t true to say he has no pace. We never hear much from you about what players you’d like us to sign, what manager you’d like us to appoint, what team you’d pick. That might be a nice change of pace from just constantly criticising everything with literally every post? I have already stated on numerous occasions I would have gone for Sam if he would have come is another matter, I wouldn't be looking to sign over the hill players for a start, I have managed at lower levels, starting with a system you believe in then bringing in players that fit into that system is the way to go, it isn't rocket science. And what realistic manager if Sam wouldn’t have come (which he wouldn’t)? |
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Post by george2again on Aug 12, 2018 14:34:53 GMT
Hes quick enough for a defender but not as one of your main attacking weapons. He looked lethargic yesterday.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Aug 12, 2018 14:38:53 GMT
Fuck may, we'd end up with more penalties against us than enough.....just get rid already!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 14:40:58 GMT
From what we’ve seen so far as a Stoke player he looks quick. Again, there are concerns about his quality but it isn’t true to say he has no pace. We never hear much from you about what players you’d like us to sign, what manager you’d like us to appoint, what team you’d pick. That might be a nice change of pace from just constantly criticising everything with literally every post? I have already stated on numerous occasions I would have gone for Sam if he would have come is another matter, I wouldn't be looking to sign over the hill players for a start, I have managed at lower levels, starting with a system you believe in then bringing in players that fit into that system is the way to go, it isn't rocket science. Sam Allardyce's style of management is the epitome of everything you moan about. |
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, seriously I don't see why we have signed him at all as a winger, no pace, no skill, can't cross a ball, can't control a ball, doesn't create fuck all and can't score 
