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Post by superheroantonius on Aug 8, 2018 10:01:23 GMT
I will go first ...
federici for me
I just think he is the better keeper
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 10:01:54 GMT
Butland all day long
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Post by lstokie on Aug 8, 2018 10:03:42 GMT
Butland
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Aug 8, 2018 10:09:02 GMT
Butland. Can't help but feel this will be a bit one sided.
Now Shawcross or Willaims I think would open up a debate.
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Post by raythesailor on Aug 8, 2018 10:11:36 GMT
Butland. Can't help but feel this will be a bit one sided. Now Shawcross or Willaims I think would open up a debate. Williams & Butland
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Post by philb on Aug 8, 2018 10:13:01 GMT
I will go first ...
federici for me
I just think he is the better keeper Based on what? His 2 competitive appearances since 2016??? Butland all day long (even though admittedly he hasn’t been great) Once the window closes and he’s still here I’ll bet he’ll improve massively without all the speculation and be a top keeper for us again. (At least until January 😜)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 10:15:17 GMT
Butland.
Not even up for debate....... Yet.
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Post by robrigo on Aug 8, 2018 10:15:44 GMT
Butland, form is temporary and class is permanent. He will be back.
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Post by rorystowel on Aug 8, 2018 10:19:16 GMT
Butland for me. His heads been turned but it looks like he’s going nowhere, so his concentration should return
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 8, 2018 10:22:29 GMT
I will go first ...
federici for me
I just think he is the better keeper Why do you think he's a better keeper? When you've watched him play, what specific qualities do you think he has, that makes him better than Butland?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 10:25:49 GMT
Lee Grant
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Post by pb1863 on Aug 8, 2018 10:28:19 GMT
It must be difficult for Butland mixing with the England players all playing at the big clubs , thinking he’ll be joining them then coming down to earth back to Stoke. If he can get his mind on the job he will help us get out of this league
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Post by Davef on Aug 8, 2018 10:31:38 GMT
ffs
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Post by superheroantonius on Aug 8, 2018 10:41:03 GMT
I will go first ...
federici for me
I just think he is the better keeper Why do you think he's a better keeper? When you've watched him play, what specific qualities do you think he has, that makes him better than Butland? because he was great for Reading( my girlfriends team, been forced to go to the Majeski a few times ) for years ... then he dropped a clanger in a big tv game ( league / fa cup final ??) and went out of favour
But mainly because Butland hasn't looked right , since his injury , and looked out of sorts v leeds
The one time I saw Federici play for Stoke v Wolves , I thought he played well
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Post by superheroantonius on Aug 8, 2018 10:42:51 GMT
I definitely think he has better concentration than Butland at the moment
I don't think Butland at the moment , is anywhere near his best
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Post by jeycov on Aug 8, 2018 10:46:57 GMT
Butland every time
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 8, 2018 10:48:16 GMT
Why do you think he's a better keeper? When you've watched him play, what specific qualities do you think he has, that makes him better than Butland? because he was great for Reading( my girlfriends team, been forced to go to the Majeski a few times ) for years ... then he dropped a clanger in a big tv game ( league / fa cup final ??) and went out of favour
But mainly because Butland hasn't looked right , since his injury , and looked out of sorts v leeds
The one time I saw Federici play for Stoke v Wolves , I thought he played well
So to be fair, you don't really know how good he is at the moment (apart from the Wolves game), he could actually be worse than Butland but because you haven't got anything to go on, you're assuming he's better. I thought Butland was excellent in preseason too, against FC St. Pauli, even though we lost.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 10:55:14 GMT
Couldn't give a fuck nowadays....I like moaning more than cheering lately.
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Post by hanibal7 on Aug 8, 2018 10:55:23 GMT
I will go first ...
federici for me
I just think he is the better keeper OK I will bite. Ridiculous babyish post. Want to be controversial. Or just childish.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Aug 8, 2018 10:58:20 GMT
Lord Jesus have mercy on us, Butland all day.
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Post by thegift on Aug 8, 2018 11:00:20 GMT
Based on Butlands recent display, i'd give federeci a go.
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Post by superheroantonius on Aug 8, 2018 11:01:01 GMT
because he was great for Reading( my girlfriends team, been forced to go to the Majeski a few times ) for years ... then he dropped a clanger in a big tv game ( league / fa cup final ??) and went out of favour
But mainly because Butland hasn't looked right , since his injury , and looked out of sorts v leeds
The one time I saw Federici play for Stoke v Wolves , I thought he played well
So to be fair, you don't really know how good he is at the moment (apart from the Wolves game), he could actually be worse than Butland but because you haven't got anything to go on, you're assuming he's better. I thought Butland was excellent in preseason too, against FC St. Pauli, even though we lost. fair point
I would just like to see half the team dropped after sunday . I thought we were that bad , and Butland would be one I would drop .
I think if GR sticks with more or less the same team , after that show , then he is accepting the performance .
Now is not the time , for nice words but no action.
I think he needs to show his teeth and show them who is boss .
I also think , picking him ahead of Grant , when he was playing poorly , was a mistake last season .
He should have been dropped for playing badly last season
And he should be dropped for playing badly this season
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 8, 2018 11:06:52 GMT
So to be fair, you don't really know how good he is at the moment (apart from the Wolves game), he could actually be worse than Butland but because you haven't got anything to go on, you're assuming he's better. I thought Butland was excellent in preseason too, against FC St. Pauli, even though we lost. fair point
I would just like to see half the team dropped after sunday . I thought we were that bad , and Butland would be one I would drop .
I think if GR sticks with more or less the same team , after that show , then he is accepting the performance .
Now is not the time , for nice words but no action.
I think he needs to show his teeth and show them who is boss .
I also think , picking him ahead of Grant , when he was playing poorly , was a mistake last season .
He should have been dropped for playing badly last season
And he should be dropped for playing badly this season
He can't drop Jack now even if he wanted to, when the window is still open in Europe, it would immediately weaken our negotiating position with both the suitor and Butland himself. Having said that, I don't think Rowett is remotely considering dropping him, if he can build up a bit of confidence over the next few games, then there is absolutely no reason why he can't go on to be the best keeper in the league this season. Every other manager in this division would swap him for their keeper right now.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Aug 8, 2018 11:07:29 GMT
Roger Jones or Eric McManus???
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Post by johnstoke on Aug 8, 2018 11:08:32 GMT
i like butland but id want gyollai given chance soon, get rid of haugarde
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 8, 2018 11:11:11 GMT
Jesus Hates Christ
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Post by CillaBlacksPissFlaps on Aug 8, 2018 11:16:41 GMT
That's like asking who's the better sprinter? Usain Bolt or Dwayne Chambers....
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Aug 8, 2018 11:20:37 GMT
I fucking hate school holidays
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Post by lordb on Aug 8, 2018 11:33:30 GMT
Roger Jones or Eric McManus??? Eric because his tache was superb
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Post by westgatelakes on Aug 8, 2018 12:27:28 GMT
i like butland but id want gyollai given chance soon, get rid of haugarde who the hell is gyollai ?
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