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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 19:21:11 GMT
I simply asking you to name the midfield player (in your opinion) from the starting 11 who should not have been picked to allow Bojan to play Dont be bashful Why does it matter? I could have named him 10 minutes ago, but why give in to someone that wants to stifle discussion and opinion on a messageboard, by jumping on the fence with the (sadly more prevalent on here) opinion and thought train that you can't have an opinion because football is this mysterious world that the normal pleb on the street has never had experience of. Football is nothing without supporters.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Aug 5, 2018 19:21:47 GMT
I'm assuming that you are upset that i've criticised the manager for his team selection, else why would you pursue this for as long as you have? Do you think he deserves criticism? With your quip about professional football opinion, don't you think football supporters are entitled to an opinion? I simply asking you to name the midfield player (in your opinion) from the starting 11 who should not have been picked to allow Bojan to play Dont be bashful I'll give you a name. Joe Allen. He needs to be dropped, and quickly. Not the only culprit today by any means, but he's just consistently shit at everything. Can't tackle, Can't pass, creates nothing, Doesn't look like he has a single fucking clue why he's on the pitch.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 5, 2018 19:25:14 GMT
I simply asking you to name the midfield player (in your opinion) from the starting 11 who should not have been picked to allow Bojan to play Dont be bashful Why does it matter? Toxic. My point is that it is easy to criticise (after the event) without putting forward a reasoned argument for debate. “On paper” the midfield three are arguably our strongest asset. Who would have complained/criticised pre-match when the team was announced? It’s our 1st game of the season. No doubt it will take several weeks (hopefully incomings) before the Manager and us realise who are our 1st 11 I'm as disappointed as anyone about the score line and performance by some but hey ho don’t lets start throwing a hizzy fit after 90 minutes
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 5, 2018 19:27:47 GMT
Toxic. My point is that it is easy to criticise (after the event) without putting forward a reasoned argument for debate. “On paper” the midfield three are arguably our strongest asset. Who would have complained/criticised pre-match when the team was announced? It’s our 1st game of the season. No doubt it will take several weeks (hopefully incomings) before the Manager and us realise who are our 1st 11 I'm as disappointed as anyone about the score line and performance by some but hey ho don’t lets start throwing a hizzy fit after 90 minutes People have been saying for weeks that we look toothless with the 4-3-3 though mate and that the three midfielders in there are too similar and there’s no creativity. What Looky is saying is that if you’d have gone with any two of the three and a number 10 behind the striker, you’ve immediately got someone to link the play and find space between the lines, which we sorely lacked today and lacked in pre-season.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 5, 2018 19:28:04 GMT
I simply asking you to name the midfield player (in your opinion) from the starting 11 who should not have been picked to allow Bojan to play Dont be bashful Do you think the manager deserves criticism? You’ve simply shown your true colours by not being able to answer a simple question and pin your colours to the mast. So basically I surrender . Enjoy the rest of your evening
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Post by pottermouth on Aug 5, 2018 19:29:10 GMT
That was grim, can't dress it up. We did the simple things badly and we didn't do anything else well except score a pen. The defence that got us relegated showed no sign of any human intervention over the summer, the only change tbh was poor Ryan looking even further off it. If Crouchy really made a postive decision to stay with us instead of going to Burnley, on today's evidence he's mad. We were better second half. The subs were well timed and effective. But Leeds gave us a lesson in every department. I looked and looked for anything to be hopeful about on the pitch and truly, I'm not sure I saw a damn thing. Gary's talked a good game pre-season, I've really liked his approach and felt positive about his signings. But that really was a bloody awful start, mate. Sorry. Onwards and upwards eh. 3 from me add * if you were there please 0, all talk.
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Post by dutchstokie on Aug 5, 2018 19:30:06 GMT
Rowett gets a 3 from me
The players? 0
Same effortless shit different season
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Post by iglugluk on Aug 5, 2018 19:30:45 GMT
Do you think the manager deserves criticism? You’ve simply shown your true colours by not being able to answer a simple question and pin your colours to the mast. So basically I surrender . Enjoy the rest of your evening
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 5, 2018 19:30:55 GMT
Toxic. My point is that it is easy to criticise (after the event) without putting forward a reasoned argument for debate. “On paper” the midfield three are arguably our strongest asset. Who would have complained/criticised pre-match when the team was announced? It’s our 1st game of the season. No doubt it will take several weeks (hopefully incomings) before the Manager and us realise who are our 1st 11 I'm as disappointed as anyone about the score line and performance by some but hey ho don’t lets start throwing a hizzy fit after 90 minutes People have been saying for weeks that we look toothless with the 4-3-3 though mate and that the three midfielders in there are too similar and there’s no creativity. What Looky is saying is that if you’d have gone with any two of the three and a number 10 behind the striker, you’ve immediately got someone to link the play and find space between the lines, which we sorely lacked today and lacked in pre-season. I was simply asking which one in his opinion should be left out. No more no less. At least another poster has suggested Allen. Now that becomes a point for debate, no ambiguity his opinion
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 5, 2018 19:31:44 GMT
I simply asking you to name the midfield player (in your opinion) from the starting 11 who should not have been picked to allow Bojan to play Dont be bashful I'll give you a name. Joe Allen. He needs to be dropped, and quickly. Not the only culprit today by any means, but he's just consistently shit at everything. Can't tackle, Can't pass, creates nothing, Doesn't look like he has a single fucking clue why he's on the pitch. At least you’ve nailed your colours to the mast. Hat of to you sir
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Post by rorystowel on Aug 5, 2018 19:32:10 GMT
Zero. No better than some of our worst performances last season. Some pretty abject performances did not help,but after watching this tripe I’m seriously worried that we will do a Sunderland.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 19:32:42 GMT
Do you think the manager deserves criticism? You’ve simply shown your true colours by not being able to answer a simple question and pin your colours to the mast. So basically I surrender . Enjoy the rest of your evening Do you think the manager deserves criticism? That question is even more simple than the one you asked me. (I'd have gone for Allen too...)
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 5, 2018 19:43:30 GMT
You’ve simply shown your true colours by not being able to answer a simple question and pin your colours to the mast. So basically I surrender . Enjoy the rest of your evening Do you think the manager deserves criticism? That question is even more simple than the one you asked me. (I'd have gone for Allen too...) Line three thanks. Line 1 for his starting line up no. Likewise IMHO, I think a large proportion of the supporters would have supported the initial line up, possibly considering as our strongest line up
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 19:44:34 GMT
Do you think the manager deserves criticism? That question is even more simple than the one you asked me. (I'd have gone for Allen too...) Line three thanks. Line 1 for his starting line up no. Likewise IMHO, I think a large proportion of the supporters would have supported the initial line up, possibly considering as our strongest line up That's not the question I asked. Do you think the manager deserves criticism?
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 5, 2018 19:48:32 GMT
Line three thanks. Line 1 for his starting line up no. Likewise IMHO, I think a large proportion of the supporters would have supported the initial line up, possibly considering as our strongest line up That's not the question I asked. Do you think the manager deserves criticism? On picking starting 11.........No
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Post by fca47 on Aug 5, 2018 20:12:49 GMT
2 - out coached by a manger who has had less time to sort them out and an inferior group of players. The negative attitude is depressing when you can't even defend.
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Post by christhepotter on Aug 5, 2018 20:47:04 GMT
Anyone who says other than was complete shite is dislussional end of, u can take no positives from today’s game 😔
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 5, 2018 20:58:06 GMT
Zero. We looked no different than we have for the last 2 seasons. Unbelievably poor. Coffee, wake up and smell , penny dropping early this season !
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 5, 2018 21:01:18 GMT
Shockingly bad start. For starters, we just don't look remotely fit enough. What the fuck have they been doing in pre-season? As professional athletes, there's no excuse for not being up to the required standards of fitness. You can see the gulf between Leeds and ourselves with just a quick glance at the players. And that was just the start of the issues.The shape of the team is wrong, the formation isn't going to work with the squad that we have, and defensively we were a fucking shambles. Everything about that performance was worrying, and he's got about a week to figure out how to fix it. I'm not generally a negative fella, but that was fucking woeful. I'll give him a 1 for signing McClean - the only player who looked to give something that resembled a flying fuck. Reality strikes home , we have learned nothing at all, a bit fat fucking 0.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 21:01:46 GMT
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That was as bad as football I’ve seen in many a year. As the team got read out I thought we would brush Leeds aside. Instead I watched a team devoid of any ideas at all staggering around like a pissed up prick coming out the pig pen. Just abysmal. I’m assuming as manager he was the one telling the two centre half’s to twat it over afobes head everytime they got the ball!!
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Post by elystokie on Aug 5, 2018 21:12:11 GMT
Zero. We looked no different than we have for the last 2 seasons. Unbelievably poor. Coffee, wake up and smell , penny dropping early this season ! Maybe I should just follow your example and be a miserable negative twat no matter who's in charge?
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Post by Fred Ferret on Aug 5, 2018 21:13:50 GMT
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 5, 2018 21:14:04 GMT
A big fat zero, that starting X1 was more than good enough, alarming that they produced the shower of shit they did. He's had a full pre season to implement his own playing philosophy and the worrying thing is what we saw today maybe his philosophy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 21:18:00 GMT
Didn't hear him mention how good the owners were and had no baseball cap on so
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 5, 2018 21:22:28 GMT
Coffee, wake up and smell , penny dropping early this season ! Maybe I should just follow your example and be a miserable negative twat no matter who's in charge? Negative or realistic I want the best for the club do you really believe we are getting that from our board ?
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 5, 2018 21:25:15 GMT
0 That was as bad as football I’ve seen in many a year. As the team got read out I thought we would brush Leeds aside. Instead I watched a team devoid of any ideas at all staggering around like a pissed up prick coming out the pig pen. Just abysmal. I’m assuming as manager he was the one telling the two centre half’s to twat it over afobes head everytime they got the ball!! Like Pulis without a brain mate, I fink we are in for a long hard shit season on the evidence thus far.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 21:34:37 GMT
0 That was as bad as football I’ve seen in many a year. As the team got read out I thought we would brush Leeds aside. Instead I watched a team devoid of any ideas at all staggering around like a pissed up prick coming out the pig pen. Just abysmal. I’m assuming as manager he was the one telling the two centre half’s to twat it over afobes head everytime they got the ball!! Like Pulis without a brain mate, I fink we are in for a long hard shit season on the evidence thus far. Well he’s somehow made a stronger 11 that ended last season actually worse today!! How can the last 3 managers not see that 1 up doesn’t work? We are in a major rut and we need a win at all costs next week
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 5, 2018 21:46:24 GMT
I did do. Drop one of the three in midfield and play Bojan in a 4231, behind Afobe. What more do you want? Why not be honest and come out with what you really want to say, which runs through most of your posts. "You can't criticise the club because you don't know what goes on" I’ll ask again name names, or is that to difficult. Don’t be embarrassed You're embarrassing yourself mate.
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Post by superheroantonius on Aug 5, 2018 21:51:40 GMT
Like Pulis without a brain mate, I fink we are in for a long hard shit season on the evidence thus far. Well he’s somehow made a stronger 11 that ended last season actually worse today!! How can the last 3 managers not see that 1 up doesn’t work? We are in a major rut and we need a win at all costs next week One up front is hopeless You don't get enough bodies in the box , quick enough Ince / McLean need to be incredibly accurate with their crossing , to find one person Plus you are making problems for your midfield / defence by allowing your opponent , time to look up , and pick their passes and play the ball out from the back It is madness
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Post by 1982stokie on Aug 5, 2018 22:03:10 GMT
Looked exactly the same as the last two managers, waited to very late to make any changes, it was obvious from the get go Afobe was completely isolated. We look like strangers with no plan or vision.
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