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Post by Pricey on Aug 5, 2018 20:10:31 GMT
Maybe Whelan could be our water carrier for a season? Was a regular in Villa's playoff team and I'm sure he still keeps himself extremely fit. Although it would be great to bring him back, we need someone younger with the potential to grow with our team, eg. The Whelan of 10 years ago from Sheff Weds! I'm suggesting it as a stopgap until we find someone younger but I hear what you're saying.
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Shawcross
Aug 5, 2018 20:11:24 GMT
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Post by onyourbonce on Aug 5, 2018 20:11:24 GMT
OMG Ryan is finished! What now? There’s no other centre half’s in the world we are fucked
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Post by questionable on Aug 5, 2018 20:13:00 GMT
Let’s face it he’s not a leader/captain material and never has been he can’t organise himself let alone a team.
can’t think of the last time he ever bollocked one of our players
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 5, 2018 20:19:39 GMT
I don't know what all the fuss is about,
We often let 4 in last couple of seasons.
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Shawcross
Aug 5, 2018 20:22:28 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 5, 2018 20:22:28 GMT
Ryan has a poor game and I see the same idiots write him off again🙄
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Post by BuckRogers on Aug 5, 2018 20:23:49 GMT
Doesn't matter who plays centre half in this team ,they are going struggle with this midfield. Bigs gaps in midfield , letting the opposition a free run. That's why the shawcross& bmi get pulled out of position .
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Aug 5, 2018 20:26:47 GMT
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Post by onyourbonce on Aug 5, 2018 20:26:47 GMT
Doesn't matter who plays centre half in this team ,they are going struggle with this midfield. Bigs gaps in midfield , letting the opposition a free run. That's why the shawcross& bmi get pulled out of position . Disagree with this, I think the defence makes it’s too hard for the midfield by dropping so deep. They have got too much ground to cover in the spaces when we havnt got the ball which is most of the time.
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Post by superheroantonius on Aug 5, 2018 20:32:08 GMT
Ryan has a poor game and I see the same idiots write him off again🙄 I used to like him , because he was good player I always was a fan , but nowadays , he is to slow for the championship . To slow in a one on one . Doesn't have the pace to recover his position , when pulled out of position , until it is to late , and just off the pace Ollie Watkins ( Brentford) up next , and he is not quick enough to keep tabs on him either Billy shankly , used to say , the hardest part of his job , was judging when to let good players go . At least he was good at making that call .Stoke are awful at it , and it is costing us big time .
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 5, 2018 20:32:42 GMT
We should drop him for ermmmm er Williams...
Beyond a fucking joke Stoke.
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Post by pavel on Aug 5, 2018 20:36:10 GMT
We should drop him for ermmmm er Williams... Beyond a fucking joke Stoke. It might come to that though, you couldn’t make it up. Both shawcross and Indi struggle with movement and interplay and get pulled all over the place, get turned easily and struggle with pace. It’s reassuring we have Williams as back up!!!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 5, 2018 20:37:54 GMT
It'll be Shawcross and Williams partnered together in the next game, 100%.
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Post by superheroantonius on Aug 5, 2018 20:38:00 GMT
Let’s face it he’s not a leader/captain material and never has been he can’t organise himself let alone a team. can’t think of the last time he ever bollocked one of our players I used to live near Highbury , during George Graham's time Every single time the opposition put the ball out wide , you heard Tony Adams shout ' stop the cross ' on the terraces And if Dixon or winterburn failed to stop the cross , a few seconds later , everyone on the terraces got to hear them , get a bollocking too Quite right !
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Post by superheroantonius on Aug 5, 2018 20:43:07 GMT
We should drop him for ermmmm er Williams... Beyond a fucking joke Stoke. It might come to that though, you couldn’t make it up. Both shawcross and Indi struggle with movement and interplay and get pulled all over the place, get turned easily and struggle with pace. It’s reassuring we have Williams as back up!!! Yep , let the likes of Leeds , sign perfectly good championship defenders , with a bit of pace , like Barry Douglas Why would want decent championship players with a bit of pace !?!?! Ridiculous , you can guarantee the cherry on the cake , is Williams is getting paid more than Douglas
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Post by tony1234 on Aug 5, 2018 20:44:52 GMT
It'll be Shawcross and Williams partnered together in the next game, 100%. Same mistake Sunderland made with John O'Shea and Wes Brown... It can be hard to sometimes spot the gem of an experienced player - into their 30s but with wisdom and a brain faster than anyone on the pitch vs the player in the mid 30s who plays in lead boots. ... in this case it isn't though - for neither us nor Everton fans.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 20:48:23 GMT
A legend for Stoke so I will never criticise him but maybe now is the time to try someone else at cb and bench ryan Only problem is I'm not too keen on Williams either It's not about criticising "The Man" it's about being honest on what he has left to give and not looking at what he's done but what's in the future. Never been Captain material imo and I've posted the same for ages. He is a rock in a back four who will lay his body on the line for the club. Sadly that type of football is dead and buried. Modern defenders play passing football out from the back, they are quick and comfortable on the ball, Ryan is none of those things. There are others in the team who still have mud on their boots from the days of orange balls who will never adapt to the modern game. Being a nice bloke who is loyal to the club is not going to get us promoted...…..Sadly.
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Post by maliciousdamage on Aug 5, 2018 20:51:41 GMT
For me it was always High who actually 'mate's him the good defender he was but once he went and then his back went it was the beginning of the end. Fair enough to give him a new contract, to be fair with his injury problems he knew no one else was coming in for him. He should have been told if he signed his place wasn't guaranteed and also he shouldn't be captain now either!
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Post by theteacher on Aug 5, 2018 20:54:19 GMT
Would put Williams in the centre of defence on Saturday - we need a talker, a leader at the back to pull the defence together.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 20:56:08 GMT
Ryan has a poor game and I see the same idiots write him off again🙄 Yet again the same idiots defend an indefensible performance is what I see. But hey, "We have the best back four in the league" "We will piss this league" "Dropping down a league our players will be fine" The same bullshit week in week out rose tints in place. Don't forget to slag anyone off who disagrees and tells it like it is.
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Post by maliciousdamage on Aug 5, 2018 20:56:50 GMT
It'll be Shawcross and Williams partnered together in the next game, 100%. I think you're right, i! Hoping if he plays with Williams his experience might be like when he played with High i think Shawcross operates better when there's a more dominate party next to him, if probably stick Bruno at left back as Pieters is driving me nuts!!!!!!!
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Post by onyourbonce on Aug 5, 2018 21:04:18 GMT
Ryan has a poor game and I see the same idiots write him off again🙄 Ryan has a poor game for the 60th time and I see the same idiots write him off again. Come on man. Is he gonna score against Watford next week and shush the crowd? He’s done end of
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Aug 5, 2018 21:26:52 GMT
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Post by mrred on Aug 5, 2018 21:26:52 GMT
I think we need to talk about this. Another yellow bellied comment from someone that needs a rocket up his arse. StokeonTrentLive (@sotlive) Tweeted: #StokeCity captain: We couldn't compete with their intensity and hard work t.co/rQNQJVSQn0
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 21:35:44 GMT
There isn't a manager who has the guts to drop a club institution/captain like Shawcross. I'm sure that, at job interviews, Coates tells him, you can buy as many as you like and replace whom you please but Shawcross is untouchable.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 21:38:39 GMT
Another thread singling players out. He was as bad as all the others. Not one player was worthy of there pay check today. Pointless skating Ryan indi and pieters and not mentioning Bauer who was equally as bad! A complete and utter dross TEAM performance. I include the manager in that
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Post by stoneroses on Aug 5, 2018 21:53:45 GMT
Another shit storm to add to his impressive collection of shit storms in the last 3 years. Today was a good one though.
Rowett took the stance and absolutley bottled it. Due to his consistent inconsistent form he should be picked on merit and merit alone. The captaincy should have been his punishment for leading us down.
Fresh face in the role would have been ideal.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 5, 2018 22:03:51 GMT
I think we need to talk about this. Another yellow bellied comment from someone that needs a rocket up his arse. StokeonTrentLive (@sotlive) Tweeted: #StokeCity captain: We couldn't compete with their intensity and hard work t.co/rQNQJVSQn0 It's about time SCFC stop their footballers making a fool out of themselves on social media.
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 5, 2018 22:29:03 GMT
Its not just his defending he really looked uncomfortable on the ball today when put under pressure. How we could have done with signing Chester. And how glad Chester must be he didn't sign?
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Aug 5, 2018 22:36:33 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 5, 2018 22:36:33 GMT
I think we need to talk about this. Another yellow bellied comment from someone that needs a rocket up his arse. StokeonTrentLive (@sotlive) Tweeted: #StokeCity captain: We couldn't compete with their intensity and hard work t.co/rQNQJVSQn0 It is a disgusting admission from a professional footballer. Absolutely disgusting
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 5, 2018 22:38:06 GMT
Some are saying Ryan is finished and then calling for Williams to replace him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 5, 2018 22:42:23 GMT
I think we need to talk about this. Another yellow bellied comment from someone that needs a rocket up his arse. StokeonTrentLive (@sotlive) Tweeted: #StokeCity captain: We couldn't compete with their intensity and hard work t.co/rQNQJVSQn0 It is a disgusting admission from a professional footballer. Absolutely disgusting That applies to whole fucking team, today was a complete and utter shambles of a performance, the only thing I know with any certainty is that Shawcross will be one of the few players to be better next game.
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Post by onyourbonce on Aug 5, 2018 22:43:52 GMT
What a moron. Relegation wasn’t the wake up call they needed no.....a battering to a shit mid table team is what we needed. Grow a pair of balls Ryan or hang your boots up fucking hell. Your supposed to be the leader of this team....this club! No wonder we play like a bunch of pussies with this cat at the helm
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