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Post by Pricey on Aug 2, 2018 16:01:26 GMT
Anyone think Williams signing will see a back three of him, Shawcross and Martins Indi with Bauer and Pieters or McClean as wing-backs? Or are we set on a back four?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 16:06:39 GMT
Anyone think Williams signing will see a back three of him, Shawcross and Martins Indi with Bauer and Pieters or McClean as wing-backs? Or are we set on a back four? That back three wouldn't be anywhere near mobile enough..... |
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Post by Veritas on Aug 2, 2018 16:08:14 GMT
Anyone think Williams signing will see a back three of him, Shawcoss and Martins Indi with Bauer and Pieters or McClean as wing-backs? Or are we set on a back four? No, with those to choose from it will be a back four. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 16:08:24 GMT
It would certainly explain a few things if we ended up with Ritchie.
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Post by nott1 on Aug 2, 2018 16:13:00 GMT
When did he sign?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 2, 2018 16:13:24 GMT
The back up being Cameron and Souttar.
It's not very inspiring is it?
Shawcross always struggles in a back 3.
Williams doesn't seem to be one to mobile enough either to play it.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 2, 2018 16:14:15 GMT
I think he'll play 4-3-3 and drop Bruno.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 16:14:16 GMT
Anyone think Williams signing will see a back three of him, Shawcross and Martins Indi with Bauer and Pieters or McClean as wing-backs? Or are we set on a back four? That back three wouldn't be anywhere near mobile enough..... And you'd need Williams in the centre to be protected by the speedsters BMI and Ryan... It could never work. |
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Post by Pricey on Aug 2, 2018 16:18:49 GMT
That back three wouldn't be anywhere near mobile enough..... And you'd need Williams in the centre to be protected by the speedsters BMI and Ryan... It could never work. Nailed on then isn't it?  |
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Post by Gods on Aug 2, 2018 16:19:04 GMT
No I don't.
I think if Williams does sign (hopefully) then for the 2 centre back places it will be a case of perm 2 from Ryan, BMI and Williams.
Otherwise the only cover for Ryan and BMI would have been either a callow youth in the form of Souttar or someone who only plays centre back as a hobby job in the form of GCam.
That would have been a massive risk knowing Ryan and BMI's recent injury record. We only got 27 games out of Ryan last season and 17 out of BMI.
As Toxic above I think he will prefer Williams to BMI, at least to begin with. As the season wears on and injury and suspension kick in I don't expect him to have much choice.
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Post by Pricey on Aug 2, 2018 16:27:35 GMT
He hasn't yet. Although it does just seem to be pending a medical, which may already have happened. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Aug 2, 2018 16:43:12 GMT
In Rowett's radio stoke interview the other day he only mentioned 4 3 3 or 4 2 3. Or FIVE at the back sometimes with Derby. He mentioned Huth pulling his hammy hence Williams IMHO.
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Post by Pricey on Aug 2, 2018 16:46:39 GMT
In Rowett's radio stoke interview the other day he only mentioned 4 3 3 or 4 2 3. Or FIVE at the back sometimes with Derby. He mentioned Huth pulling his hammy hence Williams IMHO. I can see 4 2 3 putting us at a disadvantage. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 16:49:23 GMT
Apart from the back three, I think it would be a best formation.
Ince off Afobe and you could have a midfield 3 of Allen, Etobe and Ndaiye.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Aug 2, 2018 16:52:01 GMT
In Rowett's radio stoke interview the other day he only mentioned 4 3 3 or 4 2 3. Or FIVE at the back sometimes with Derby. He mentioned Huth pulling his hammy hence Williams IMHO. I can see 4 2 3 putting us at a disadvantage. Ha ha quite. |
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Post by smatty88 on Aug 2, 2018 16:55:25 GMT
Pieters isn't a good enough attacker for a back 3, we saw that under Hughes.
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Post by Pricey on Aug 2, 2018 16:57:53 GMT
Pieters isn't a good enough attacker for a back 3, we saw that under Hughes. McClean? He's hard-working enough. Knudsen is more attacking than Pieters I'd say. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Aug 2, 2018 17:23:31 GMT
We're playing a flat back 4 all season. Fact.
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Post by musik on Aug 2, 2018 17:25:34 GMT
We should be able to play any formation and it depends on the opponents.
It should also change during the game.
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Post by enuntio on Aug 2, 2018 17:46:19 GMT
5 - 4 - 1
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Post by lordb on Aug 2, 2018 18:25:39 GMT
433 switching to 4231
I think Bojan will come of the last thirty minutes on a regular basis
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Post by smallthorner on Aug 3, 2018 19:32:35 GMT
I think he'll play 4-3-3 and drop Bruno. Eh?? Are you being serious? Either a back three of Williams Shawcross and Bruno... or Williams in the bench.. at least for the first match. I'm still convinced he's going to go wing backy at some stage. Bauer and McClean. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Aug 3, 2018 20:00:08 GMT
I think he'll play 4-3-3 and drop Bruno. Eh?? Are you being serious? Either a back three of Williams Shawcross and Bruno... or Williams in the bench.. at least for the first match. I'm still convinced he's going to go wing backy at some stage. Bauer and McClean. Never in a million. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2018 21:15:40 GMT
Anyone think Williams signing will see a back three of him, Shawcross and Martins Indi with Bauer and Pieters or McClean as wing-backs? Or are we set on a back four? I bloody hope not Shawcross is crap in a three, needs a four. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 3, 2018 21:55:43 GMT
I think he'll play 4-3-3 and drop Bruno. Eh?? Are you being serious? Either a back three of Williams Shawcross and Bruno... or Williams in the bench.. at least for the first match. I'm still convinced he's going to go wing backy at some stage. Bauer and McClean. Yeah I’m being serious. I think if he was planning a back three he’d have looked at it in the friendlies by now and Williams hasn’t dropped down a division to swap one bench for another. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 4, 2018 15:29:39 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if we went 3 at the back on occasion - with McClean and Bauer as the wingbacks, However I think 4 at the back is going to be the norm.
I think Shawcross and BMI will start but I wouldn't be surprised if Williams turns into a regular if he gets the chance - and I've got a feeling Shawcross is more at risk of losing out, I love Shawcross to bits - but I think Rowett has brought in Williams for his qualities as a leader as much as anything else and we're going to need that this season.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 4, 2018 15:31:59 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if we went 3 at the back on occasion - with McClean and Bauer as the wingbacks, However I think 4 at the back is going to be the norm. I think Shawcross and BMI will start but I wouldn't be surprised if Williams turns into a regular if he gets the chance - and I've got a feeling Shawcross is more at risk of losing out, I love Shawcross to bits - but I think Rowett has brought in Williams for his qualities as a leader as much as anything else and we're going to need that this season. Is this the weird idea that Shawcross is somehow not a leader rearing its head again? |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 4, 2018 15:58:15 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if we went 3 at the back on occasion - with McClean and Bauer as the wingbacks, However I think 4 at the back is going to be the norm. I think Shawcross and BMI will start but I wouldn't be surprised if Williams turns into a regular if he gets the chance - and I've got a feeling Shawcross is more at risk of losing out, I love Shawcross to bits - but I think Rowett has brought in Williams for his qualities as a leader as much as anything else and we're going to need that this season. Is this the weird idea that Shawcross is somehow not a leader rearing its head again? Is it weird? I've nothing against Shawcross and really admire him as a player and a person - but I've never seen him turn a game by sheer force of personality - and I have seen that from other players over the years. I don't think it's a bad thing if Shawcross is no longer an automatic starter and has the pressure of being captain taken off his shoulders - if it he responds as you would hope having 3 players competing for 2 places is a good place to be. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 4, 2018 16:12:59 GMT
Is this the weird idea that Shawcross is somehow not a leader rearing its head again? Is it weird? I've nothing against Shawcross and really admire him as a player and a person - but I've never seen him turn a game by sheer force of personality - and I have seen that from other players over the years. I don't think it's a bad thing if Shawcross is no longer an automatic starter and has the pressure of being captain taken off his shoulders - if it he responds as you would hope having 3 players competing for 2 places is a good place to be. Yeah I don’t get that at all. Shawcross remains for me our best central defender and we looked significantly worse when he didn’t play last season. The ‘pressure of captain’ has never been an issue. He’s been captain since 2011, three manager in seven years haven’t seen fit to take it off him. He’s constantly shouting, bollocking, organising, pointing, advising, telling players who to pick up and where to stand. What should a captain do that he isn’t doing? Which centre halves in recent times have “turned a game by sheer force of personality”? |
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