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Post by ashleyscfc on Jul 28, 2018 15:27:07 GMT
What do we think?
Having seen that theres plenty of there players we should be leaving in St Pauli and bringing some of theres back
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Post by march4 on Jul 28, 2018 15:28:26 GMT
That they are lucky to still be in a job.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 28, 2018 15:40:56 GMT
That they have a lot to do and it needs doing now.
Ins A minimum of 1 if not 2 CBs A Defensive midfielder A winger Another striker
Outs Fletcher Adam Diouf Afellay
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 15:41:52 GMT
That they have a lot to do and it needs doing now. Ins A minimum of 1 if not 2 CBs A Defensive midfielder A winger Another striker Outs Fletcher Adam Diouf Afellay And a left back.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 28, 2018 15:42:36 GMT
That they have a lot to do and it needs doing now. Ins A minimum of 1 if not 2 CBs A Defensive midfielder A winger Another striker Outs Fletcher Adam Diouf Afellay And a left back. I don’t mind Eric
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Post by ashleyscfc on Jul 28, 2018 15:45:22 GMT
That they have a lot to do and it needs doing now. Ins A minimum of 1 if not 2 CBs A Defensive midfielder A winger Another striker Outs Fletcher Adam Diouf Afellay Agree, seems obvious its the minimum. CB: Chester Winger: Richie CAM: Vydra CM: Pearson Striker: Gayle
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jul 28, 2018 15:47:26 GMT
“Will lessons be learned? The absolutely honest answer to that question is yes. There are many of us at the club who have been in football for some time and have got a lot of experience, including the owners, who have a huge experience and knowledge of the game.
“But you have to keep learning and you are learning all the time.
“None of us gets everything right first time but the important thing is that you do recognise your mistakes and things that have happened and every year you try to improve on that.
“That’s no different from every other season. Every year we go forward trying to improve in every aspect from the previous year.”
T Scholes, 28 Feb 2018
We all know what followed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 15:47:34 GMT
We literally have no back up though if Rowett doesn’t trust Tymon.
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Post by superheroantonius on Jul 28, 2018 15:51:46 GMT
Attitude matters
McLean and etebo , might not be the most skilled players in the squad
But at least they have attitude
If we turn up at St Pauli , or anywhere , in the championship , we need more attitude than the other lot .Not less .
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Post by nonameface on Jul 28, 2018 15:52:01 GMT
Probably not as much as they should.
Goalkeeper: Little difference at present between Federeci and Butland; who all of a sudden wants to show he can use his feet, when he can't. May as well let Butland go and recycle the money.
Defence: Bauer and Shawcross look solid enough, BMI still looks injured and Tom Edwards is only a left back. We need signings
Midfield: Joe Allen is limited as a free roaming midfielder, he's never really played well for us despite being excellent for Wales. Fletcher and Adam are not athletic enough or talented enough now to break down teams. Etebo was an excellent signing and with Ndiaye could afford to let Imbula roam the pitch. Ince and McLean looked pretty lively, but didn't support the strikers enough. Choupo looked okay
Striker: Afobe is going to need to deliver because whilst berahino was a lot better and better than crouch and diouf he still wasn't quite there. Get rid of diouf and crouch and sign a top target man
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Jul 28, 2018 16:06:22 GMT
They need to have the same work ethic of their Leeds counterparts. Leeds are looking to sign Vydra and Patrick Bamford for a combined total of 18m...
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Post by stokeykez on Jul 28, 2018 16:10:05 GMT
They should have learnt that good timely signings are crucial to a bedrock of a season, especially when the season is disjointed due to tournament should as the world cup.
I feel that very few lessons have been learned.
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Post by Cast no shadow on Jul 28, 2018 16:11:49 GMT
“It is absolutely clear that a major overhaul is required. We need to regain our identity and focus and the summer will be spent doing this.”
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Post by Scrotnig on Jul 28, 2018 16:18:25 GMT
I firmly believe that we will never get back to where we were until these two are gone. Any 'overhaul' needs not to be orchestrated by them, it needs to include them.
How they can survive after last season's shameful debacle is beyond me.
Until then, we are fiddling while Rome burns.
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Post by Jimm on Jul 28, 2018 16:18:49 GMT
Our defence is shocking
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Post by hooftastic on Jul 28, 2018 16:19:09 GMT
“It is absolutely clear that a major overhaul is required. We need to regain our identity and focus and the summer will be spent doing this.” Well to be fair when your identity is incompetence then they've been bang on
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Post by sportsman on Jul 28, 2018 16:19:34 GMT
That we shouldn't be starting the season with Ryan, BMI, Cameron, Fletcher, Adam.
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Post by premiershipteamfor10years on Jul 28, 2018 16:24:24 GMT
Based on that performance we will be lucky to get into the playoffs.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 28, 2018 16:26:34 GMT
They’re lucky to be in a job.
They’ve got a massive job on their hands between now and the end of the window.
We need 4/5 new faces in by the end of the loan window.
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Post by thegift on Jul 28, 2018 16:32:47 GMT
That they have a lot to do and it needs doing now. Ins A minimum of 1 if not 2 CBs A Defensive midfielder A winger Another striker Outs Fletcher Adam Diouf Afellay Agree, seems obvious its the minimum. CB: Chester Winger: Richie CAM: Vydra CM: Pearson Striker: Gayle Not sunday, NOW.
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Post by thegift on Jul 28, 2018 16:33:43 GMT
Based on that performance we will be lucky to get into the playoffs. Lucky to stay in the league
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 28, 2018 16:33:44 GMT
That we shouldn't be starting the season with Ryan, BMI, Cameron, Fletcher, Adam. What did Ryan do wrong exactly? I thought he looked leaner, lighter and more mobile than he has done for 3 years. It was one of few positives from the 70 minutes that i saw of the game.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 16:35:15 GMT
Are we really surprised ?
Once it became clear that as part of the promised "major overhaul" Teflon and Hoss were remaining in their positions it should have been crystal clear that not much was really going to change with the "process". After the initial splurge on Afobe and Etebo (how did that happen so quickly ?) transfers settled down to their normal turgid pace. We are now a week away from our opening game and the transfer window is almost finished now and yet we still find ourselves needing what is generally accepted by the fans as something of a major overhaul in itself :
1 maybe 2 CBs 1 LB 1 DM Another winger Another striker
Plus try to get rid of the dead wood that is still lurking around at the club.
Do we really think the Pizza Boys are capable of all this in the time remaining ?
Coates should be having a serious word with them both - get your fingers out or you're out of the club !
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Post by fca47 on Jul 28, 2018 16:39:04 GMT
Hopefully Rowett is kidding us, and does know his best formation, he has lots of good players at his disposal, but the formations and selections are very confusing.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 28, 2018 16:39:54 GMT
What do we think? Having seen that theres plenty of there players we should be leaving in St Pauli and bringing some of theres back Sure the same things were said after last seasons friendly against them.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 28, 2018 16:41:49 GMT
They need to have the same work ethic of their Leeds counterparts. Leeds are looking to sign Vydra and Patrick Bamford for a combined total of 18m... They've been looking at that for some time....
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 28, 2018 16:46:52 GMT
That they have a lot to do and it needs doing now. Ins A minimum of 1 if not 2 CBs A Defensive midfielder A winger Another striker Outs Fletcher Adam Diouf Afellay Agree, seems obvious its the minimum. CB: Chester Winger: Richie CAM: Vydra CM: Pearson Striker: Gayle That's going to cost a LOT of money considering we haven't sold anyone of value.
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Post by sportsman on Jul 28, 2018 16:48:50 GMT
2 new CB's 1 new left back, 1 new midfielder 1 new striker.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 16:49:23 GMT
Probably not as much as they should. Goalkeeper: Little difference at present between Federeci and Butland I've seen some fucking look at me, look at me comments in my time but this is right at the top of the tree. Jesus fucking Christ
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jul 28, 2018 16:50:41 GMT
What I've learned is that I'm unsure whether to be shit scared or downright confused about how the season will pan out.
We are either lulling the opposition into a false sense of security with our pre-season performances or we are genuinely poor.
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