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Post by nigerianstokie on Jul 28, 2018 16:10:07 GMT
0 goals in 4,friendlies or not it's worrying. We have scored against Hamburg in the last 4. I do get your point however.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jul 28, 2018 16:11:05 GMT
What pisses me off, is you can look at other teams in friendlies and at the start of the season, and you get some shit team, with players you've never heard of, banging goals in. Then you'll have us, wanking ourselves silly on paper, yet couldn't score down the vale. Now don't talk silly...I'm sure if we played the Vale and put Berahino and Diouf up front, we'd....oh yeah, I see what you mean.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 28, 2018 16:15:07 GMT
Mine has worked fine ,from the very first min Good for you. For plenty of other people it obviously hasn't. Today should be used to see if there are any problems and then to work on them ready for kick off proper, I'd have been surprised if there wasn't any tbh.
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Post by nott1 on Jul 28, 2018 16:15:07 GMT
I was quite optimistic about the new season a couple of weeks ago. Now I think we'll be down amongst the relegation places unless we get at least three or more better players!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 28, 2018 16:18:30 GMT
I was one, and I stand corrected on the evidence to date (admittedly Badou was not there and it was a friendly). We need a holder, a number 10 and one of Allen/Etebo. Realistically, though, is there any way one of Allen or Etebo won't start if fit? We've invested too much in them, haven't we? Allen needed to be sold and still does, still don't know why we offered him a new deal to keep him here, its the same problem from last season, he adds nothing to midfield other than problems.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 28, 2018 16:18:36 GMT
Good for you. For plenty of other people it obviously hasn't. Today should be used to see if there are any problems and then to work on them ready for kick off proper, I'd have been surprised if there wasn't any tbh. Fingers crossed.
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Post by superheroantonius on Jul 28, 2018 16:19:27 GMT
I honestly felt the players attitude was better under Lambert
There was a touch of the mark Hughes about todays performance
I liked the fact , lambo was up for a row with berahino , wimmer , Jesse and affellay . If I was manager , I would have been up for a row with them
Adam missed a peno , butland threw the ball in his own net , lambo lacked a bit of nouse , the squad liked a goalscorer , we came up short , I know
But at least the players gave it a go
I think it is time for GR to show his teeth lambo style ( more effectively obviously) .Because if the team plays like that v Leeds , and he sits on his arse mark Hughes style , he will be going down the wrong road
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 28, 2018 16:19:57 GMT
The post match comments of the manager will be very telling. Any flannel other than some straight talking about how poor it was, and yet another broadside at the pizza crew about how shit his options are with no more friendlies left and one week to go and he can do one already for me. He's spent £36million already and has Badou, Allen and Butland. He has to have us pushing for promotion. He's got one hand behind his back with having Allen still around, hopefully he'll have the balls to drop him eventually.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 28, 2018 16:21:52 GMT
The second half was a shambles, that's clear for everyone to see. However, some of the comments referring to Rowett being out of his depth and us looking like we'll be in a relegation scrap are totally off the mark.
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Post by miltonstokienew on Jul 28, 2018 16:24:43 GMT
The second half was a shambles, that's clear for everyone to see. However, some of the comments referring to Rowett being out of his depth and us looking like we'll be in a relegation scrap are totally off the mark. standard over reaction from some of the cockwombles on here. I dare say half of them didn't even watch the match.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 28, 2018 16:26:44 GMT
The second half was a shambles, that's clear for everyone to see. However, some of the comments referring to Rowett being out of his depth and us looking like we'll be in a relegation scrap are totally off the mark. Still time to bring people in to sort out the problems so I'm not too worried tbh, its the decisions he makes once the season starts that worries me, I agree though, quite a few are jumping the gun one way or the other.
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Post by stokierich on Jul 28, 2018 16:27:42 GMT
Was expecting to see close to the Leeds starting 11 as possible today. We seem toothless in attack & defence, crying out for DM & playing someone off the CF.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jul 28, 2018 16:28:38 GMT
I honestly felt the players attitude was better under Lambert There was a touch of the mark Hughes about todays performance I liked the fact , lambo was up for a row with berahino , wimmer , Jesse and affellay . If I was manager , I would have been up for a row with them Adam missed a peno , butland threw the ball in his own net , lambo lacked a bit of nouse , the squad liked a goalscorer , we came up short , I know But at least the players gave it a go I think it is time for GR to show his teeth lambo style ( more effectively obviously) .Because if the team plays like that v Leeds , and he sits on his arse mark Hughes style , he will be going down the wrong road Utter bollocks, there is nothing positive to take from Paul Lamberts spell in charge. He got it all completely wrong
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 28, 2018 16:29:38 GMT
The second half was a shambles, that's clear for everyone to see. However, some of the comments referring to Rowett being out of his depth and us looking like we'll be in a relegation scrap are totally off the mark. Nobody thinks we'll be in a relegation scrap but I think there's equally no chance we're going to get promoted which is the reason he was brought in. He's no better than Lambert.
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Post by thegift on Jul 28, 2018 16:30:00 GMT
I honestly felt the players attitude was better under Lambert There was a touch of the mark Hughes about todays performance I liked the fact , lambo was up for a row with berahino , wimmer , Jesse and affellay . If I was manager , I would have been up for a row with them Adam missed a peno , butland threw the ball in his own net , lambo lacked a bit of nouse , the squad liked a goalscorer , we came up short , I know But at least the players gave it a go I think it is time for GR to show his teeth lambo style ( more effectively obviously) .Because if the team plays like that v Leeds , and he sits on his arse mark Hughes style , he will be going down the wrong road Hard to disagree really. Que the negative replies though
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Post by Scrotnig on Jul 28, 2018 16:30:29 GMT
The second half was a shambles, that's clear for everyone to see. However, some of the comments referring to Rowett being out of his depth and us looking like we'll be in a relegation scrap are totally off the mark. standard over reaction from some of the cockwombles on here. I dare say half of them didn't even watch the match. Yeah, I guess we're all 'knicker wetters' again, just like this time last season. Remind me again how that turned out?
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Post by macca100 on Jul 28, 2018 16:32:51 GMT
Simply we do not learn.
Players like Adam, Fletcher, Crouch should be nowhwere near the first team.
We need a side full of energy, quick to close down and a force on the counter.
We have those three with a combined age of 278 in my team.. get rid ffs.
Diouf would make a great coach but a awful footballer.. are his legs welded on backwards.
We have no creative flow , no enforcer.
This isn’t a top six side currently.
Need
LB CH DM Creative midfielder Forward
Need to sell
Crouch/Diouf and or Berahino Adam Fletcher (just cancel contract) Tymon Edwards
We are miles of being ready.
One goal in last 4 games, a pre season that seems disjointed with travel.
I thought we had regrouped and learnt from last seasons mistakes
Not one lesson learnt
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Post by miltonstokienew on Jul 28, 2018 16:32:52 GMT
standard over reaction from some of the cockwombles on here. I dare say half of them didn't even watch the match. Yeah, I guess we're all 'knicker wetters' again, just like this time last season. Remind me again how that turned out? There's zero chance of us being relegated.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jul 28, 2018 16:35:17 GMT
Yeah, I guess we're all 'knicker wetters' again, just like this time last season. Remind me again how that turned out? There's zero chance of us being relegated. But last year just staying up would've sufficed. This year we NEED to get promoted. We are way, way off that.
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Post by stokie63 on Jul 28, 2018 16:37:21 GMT
Has rowett done a interview? Would love to no his tboughts on that performance i no you shouldn't read to much into friendlies but by god the 2nd half performance was shocking.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 28, 2018 16:37:53 GMT
Was expecting to see close to the Leeds starting 11 as possible today. We seem toothless in attack & defense, crying out for DM & playing someone off the CF. You saw it Rich. Well in as much as that was the best XI Rowett thought he could field. If we'd be playing Leeds today, then that's the team he would have gone with. Massive week ahead in the transfer market for us.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 28, 2018 16:40:29 GMT
The second half was a shambles, that's clear for everyone to see. However, some of the comments referring to Rowett being out of his depth and us looking like we'll be in a relegation scrap are totally off the mark. Nobody thinks we'll be in a relegation scrap but I think there's equally no chance we're going to get promoted which is the reason he was brought in. He's no better than Lambert. I've seen people say we'll be in a relegation battle so you're wrong there. Your statement that he's no better than Lambert is pure conjecture until we're into the season surely?!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 28, 2018 16:41:29 GMT
I watched most of the second half and it was diabolical.
They just look uncohesive.
Plenty of work to do on the training ground.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 28, 2018 16:41:59 GMT
standard over reaction from some of the cockwombles on here. I dare say half of them didn't even watch the match. Yeah, I guess we're all 'knicker wetters' again, just like this time last season. Remind me again how that turned out? Have I called you a knicker wetter today?! like your avatar suggests, you are one hell of a drama queen though. I've also said we were shit in the second half today so I'm not one of those people who hides behind poor performances, I call it when I see it.
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Post by malteser68 on Jul 28, 2018 16:42:53 GMT
How on earth can he our miss from there because he is a donkey I have been saying the same thing, that is, that he is a donkey for ages and yet there are still posters here who root for him He is the worst striker i have ever seen and i really cant understand why we have not as yet got rid of this useless waste of space
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 28, 2018 16:45:33 GMT
Even if we get a couple of players in this week, we’re still going to be starting the season massively undercooked (again).
Over half of the starting eleven at Leeds won’t have competed 90 minutes during pre-season.
Wouldn’t be surprised at all to see us lose the first couple of games.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 28, 2018 16:46:40 GMT
Was expecting to see close to the Leeds starting 11 as possible today. We seem toothless in attack & defense, crying out for DM & playing someone off the CF. You saw it Rich. Well in as much as that was the best XI Rowett thought he could field. If we'd be playing Leeds today, then that's the team he would have gone with. Massive week ahead in the transfer market for us. Assuming (and it's admittedly a big assumption) jpstokie's information is on the level, it sounds like we're lining up another Ndiaye for the DM role. What in god's name we do about the final third issues is another question though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 16:47:48 GMT
A glorified training session. The hard work starts here, anyone trying to correlate pre-season with what will actually happen from August onwards I genuinely wouldn’t bother........
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Post by chrisgal on Jul 28, 2018 16:51:48 GMT
After the Walsall match we have scored 1 goal in 5 matches. I watched todays stream and I am very worried about the season ahead. Yes they are only pre season friendlies but the team seem to be playing exactly the same system as they did under Mark Hughes which is very disappointing considering what Gary Rowett has been saying regarding fitness and pressurising teams. I was hoping to see a significant improvement but from what I saw today there has been very little change.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 28, 2018 16:54:09 GMT
You saw it Rich. Well in as much as that was the best XI Rowett thought he could field. If we'd be playing Leeds today, then that's the team he would have gone with. Massive week ahead in the transfer market for us. Assuming (and it's admittedly a big assumption) jpstokie's information is on the level, it sounds like we're lining up another Ndiaye for the DM role. What in god's name we do about the final third issues is another question though. As I said the other day Rob, I can't make my mind up which is the more important acquisition, a proper DCM or a number 10? I think the answer is, actually both but where then does that leave Joe Allen? And this is where the entire problem begins I feel. Which kind of what led to my remark, fuck it, play Allen in and Etebo together in an old fashioned 442 and stick a striker up to top alongside Afobe. It's a bit of a mess really.
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