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Jul 15, 2018 19:35:11 GMT
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Post by robstokie on Jul 15, 2018 19:35:11 GMT
I just want to see what you all think about ADHD - As someone who suffers with this condition I find it interesting to see what you all think of it.
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Jul 15, 2018 19:42:56 GMT
Post by Boothen on Jul 15, 2018 19:42:56 GMT
Never used to exist back when I was at school. I just find it a strange coincidence that it suddenly started being diagnosed right around the time that corporal punishment and any sort of discipline in schools was outlawed.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jul 15, 2018 19:45:16 GMT
I just want to see what you all think about ADHD - As someone who suffers with this condition I find it interesting to see what you all think of it. I work/ have worked with university students with ADHD. I work with one currently who is on a high dose of ritalin. To be honest she is pretty amazing. Totally enthusiastic, lively academically very able an enquiring mind, always ready for an argument ( in the best sense of the word). She is a breath of fresh air and ADHD part of her personality. Admittedly, as she says to me , I have only seen one side of her. Don't let any label confine and restrict you.
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Jul 15, 2018 19:49:36 GMT
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Post by Billy the kid on Jul 15, 2018 19:49:36 GMT
My daughter has it and she is a nightmare.
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 15, 2018 20:02:38 GMT
Never used to exist back when I was at school. I just find it a strange coincidence that it suddenly started being diagnosed right around the time that corporal punishment and any sort of discipline in schools was outlawed. Lack of flat hand syndrome
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 15, 2018 20:12:40 GMT
I just want to see what you all think about ADHD - As someone who suffers with this condition I find it interesting to see what you all think of it. I work in the industry & know that there are some serious cases, but the spectrum runs way to far into the pale grey. Truth is, lots of folk on this site could get a clinical diagnosis of something you can’t blood test for. My wife used to work for a Dr that did Psychs in N Staffs & he said there’s Some V interesting mental health issues in Stoke. No £&!n $#!t Sherlock. Rob, stop using it as a label & join the £@#&!n club. It’s called the OatcakeXx
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Post by Northy on Jul 15, 2018 20:15:42 GMT
What was the question ?
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Post by felonious on Jul 15, 2018 20:48:45 GMT
Why does Robstokie behave so badly?
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Jul 15, 2018 21:11:51 GMT
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Post by musik on Jul 15, 2018 21:11:51 GMT
I just want to see what you all think about ADHD - As someone who suffers with this condition I find it interesting to see what you all think of it. From what aspect? What's most difficult about having it?
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Post by robstokie on Jul 15, 2018 21:29:03 GMT
I just want to see what you all think about ADHD - As someone who suffers with this condition I find it interesting to see what you all think of it. From what aspect? What's most difficult about having it? I would say its a combination of things - obviously the difficulties paying attention as in you try to concentrate but you are distracted by anything and everything in your peripheral vision, also the fact that with me, i lose things all the time (the amount of times ive lost my bank card - luckily im savvy enough to cancel it straightaway but its a pain in the arse because you have to cancel it and get a replacement sent - and i dont use cash that much because im even worse with that. also the amount of things i place down and cant find literally 30 seconds later), i try to be organised but i cant sustain it as i switch off, meaning i make the same silly mistakes time and again with regards to most things, the fact that im terribly impulsive and blurt things out without thinking, even though i know they are either inappropriate or at best irrelevant but i say it before i even think, plus the fact that i forget what people say within seconds (for example, i work in a bar but if someone comes up to order a round for more than, say 2 people, i forget most of the order within seconds, meaning i have to ask time and again) but the worse thing is the realisation i keep fucking up, which gets me down, which leads to me switching off and thus keep making the same mistakes as i have given up. Its a vicious cycle...
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Jul 15, 2018 21:57:56 GMT
Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Jul 15, 2018 21:57:56 GMT
Never used to exist back when I was at school. I just find it a strange coincidence that it suddenly started being diagnosed right around the time that corporal punishment and any sort of discipline in schools was outlawed. No, it existed, it was just called "hyper" back then. Having grown up in Texas, corporal punishment was a right of passage (I can imagine this was probably the case in most schools)--you weren't really someone unless you'd been spanked out in the hallway. Teachers used to hang their paddles on the wall behind them like trophies. Good times. ...and can I add that Northy deserves a smack upside the head for giving into temptation and being "that person" for going with the obvious joke, please refrain in the future.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jul 15, 2018 22:01:17 GMT
From what aspect? What's most difficult about having it? I would say its a combination of things - obviously the difficulties paying attention as in you try to concentrate but you are distracted by anything and everything in your peripheral vision, also the fact that with me, i lose things all the time (the amount of times ive lost my bank card - luckily im savvy enough to cancel it straightaway but its a pain in the arse because you have to cancel it and get a replacement sent - and i dont use cash that much because im even worse with that. also the amount of things i place down and cant find literally 30 seconds later), i try to be organised but i cant sustain it as i switch off, meaning i make the same silly mistakes time and again with regards to most things, the fact that im terribly impulsive and blurt things out without thinking, even though i know they are either inappropriate or at best irrelevant but i say it before i even think, plus the fact that i forget what people say within seconds (for example, i work in a bar but if someone comes up to order a round for more than, say 2 people, i forget most of the order within seconds, meaning i have to ask time and again) but the worse thing is the realisation i keep fucking up, which gets me down, which leads to me switching off and thus keep making the same mistakes as i have given up. Its a vicious cycle... Rob , when I meet the student I referred to earlier on a 1 to 1, one of the first things I have to do is to take the battery out of the clock in the room ... The ticking distracts her. As you say about distraction, she is easily distracted by anything going on through the window. Perhaps part of the answer is education, understanding, not being judgemental and learning to accept yourself. Very often we are most unforgiving of ourselves and yet make allowances for other people's differences. Be kind to yourself. ( perhaps easy for me to say admittedly....and perhaps I'm not explaining myself well, but I've often asked people " if someone comes to you with that issue/ question that you ask about , what advice would you give/ what would you suggest?" Often the response is understanding....but they are much less forgiving of themselves.
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Jul 15, 2018 22:21:58 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 22:21:58 GMT
Never used to exist back when I was at school. I just find it a strange coincidence that it suddenly started being diagnosed right around the time that corporal punishment and any sort of discipline in schools was outlawed. No, it existed, it was just called "hyper" back then. Having grown up in Texas, corporal punishment was a right of passage (I can imagine this was probably the case in most schools)--you weren't really someone unless you'd been spanked out in the hallway. Teachers used to hang their paddles on the wall behind them like trophies. Good times. ...and can I add that Northy deserves a smack upside the head for giving into temptation and being "that person" for going with the obvious joke, please refrain in the future. I always regained my focus at school when the board rubber hit me in the back of the head.
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Post by Billy the kid on Jul 16, 2018 7:27:36 GMT
From what aspect? What's most difficult about having it? I would say its a combination of things - obviously the difficulties paying attention as in you try to concentrate but you are distracted by anything and everything in your peripheral vision, also the fact that with me, i lose things all the time (the amount of times ive lost my bank card - luckily im savvy enough to cancel it straightaway but its a pain in the arse because you have to cancel it and get a replacement sent - and i dont use cash that much because im even worse with that. also the amount of things i place down and cant find literally 30 seconds later), i try to be organised but i cant sustain it as i switch off, meaning i make the same silly mistakes time and again with regards to most things, the fact that im terribly impulsive and blurt things out without thinking, even though i know they are either inappropriate or at best irrelevant but i say it before i even think, plus the fact that i forget what people say within seconds (for example, i work in a bar but if someone comes up to order a round for more than, say 2 people, i forget most of the order within seconds, meaning i have to ask time and again) but the worse thing is the realisation i keep fucking up, which gets me down, which leads to me switching off and thus keep making the same mistakes as i have given up. Its a vicious cycle... Rob you have my full sympathy, like I said my daughter is 12 and she is exactly the same. We have to box her school uniform up every night otherwise she would never get there. It's pointless asking her to tidy her room we literally have to tell her in bite sizes, the flip side is that this takes so much longer and it frustrates the hell out of her. She also has periods where she cries as she hates being so disorganised but genuinly cant help it.
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Jul 16, 2018 8:53:44 GMT
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Post by robstokie on Jul 16, 2018 8:53:44 GMT
I would say its a combination of things - obviously the difficulties paying attention as in you try to concentrate but you are distracted by anything and everything in your peripheral vision, also the fact that with me, i lose things all the time (the amount of times ive lost my bank card - luckily im savvy enough to cancel it straightaway but its a pain in the arse because you have to cancel it and get a replacement sent - and i dont use cash that much because im even worse with that. also the amount of things i place down and cant find literally 30 seconds later), i try to be organised but i cant sustain it as i switch off, meaning i make the same silly mistakes time and again with regards to most things, the fact that im terribly impulsive and blurt things out without thinking, even though i know they are either inappropriate or at best irrelevant but i say it before i even think, plus the fact that i forget what people say within seconds (for example, i work in a bar but if someone comes up to order a round for more than, say 2 people, i forget most of the order within seconds, meaning i have to ask time and again) but the worse thing is the realisation i keep fucking up, which gets me down, which leads to me switching off and thus keep making the same mistakes as i have given up. Its a vicious cycle... Rob you have my full sympathy, like I said my daughter is 12 and she is exactly the same. We have to box her school uniform up every night otherwise she would never get there. It's pointless asking her to tidy her room we literally have to tell her in bite sizes, the flip side is that this takes so much longer and it frustrates the hell out of her. She also has periods where she cries as she hates being so disorganised but genuinly cant help it. That sounds the exact same as me at that age - and now in fact. Honestly, I had 'that chat' from my teachers about organisation when I was about 12/13 and there's nothing more humiliating for your self esteem when it seems everyone can pick it up naturally whereas to me (and I'm guessing to your daughter too) it's something that won't sink in...
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Post by duckling on Jul 16, 2018 20:29:45 GMT
I have it myself. It's a real condition though I think there are misdiagnoses. I wasn't diagnosed until I was in my early 20s. Being treated for it completely changed my life. I look back and wonder how much better things could have been if I had been diagnosed and treated earlier. I'm still on medication and need it to function at a normal level.
ADHD is a hugely misunderstood condition, and part of that is in the name. People with ADHD do not lack attention. They lack attention regulation. They go between hyperfocus and no focus, and they can't control it.
ADHD also often involves lack of social skills and organizational skills in a way that resembles autism.
Not all cases of ADHD involve hyperactivity. There is a subtype that is not hyperactive.
Rob's description is very accurate for me, although it's only scratching the surface of what it's like to have it.
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Post by duckling on Jul 16, 2018 20:51:00 GMT
People with ADHD are prone to depression and anxiety. To live life with ADHD is to live a life of frustration.
I can't express the degree to which ADHD people are frustrated with themselves. People with ADHD are also frustrating for others to be around, and they're acutely aware of the frustration they cause others. In addition, the social aspects of ADHD lead to social anxiety.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 16, 2018 20:58:29 GMT
I don't believe in it.....oh look, a helicopter!
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Jul 16, 2018 21:04:37 GMT
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Post by duckling on Jul 16, 2018 21:04:37 GMT
Rob you have my full sympathy, like I said my daughter is 12 and she is exactly the same. We have to box her school uniform up every night otherwise she would never get there. It's pointless asking her to tidy her room we literally have to tell her in bite sizes, the flip side is that this takes so much longer and it frustrates the hell out of her. She also has periods where she cries as she hates being so disorganised but genuinly cant help it. Is she on medication?
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Jul 16, 2018 21:18:40 GMT
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Post by danceswithclams on Jul 16, 2018 21:18:40 GMT
Used to like it in my younger raving days but steer clear of class A's now I'm in my mid-30s.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jul 16, 2018 21:39:14 GMT
I spent 3 years working at a secondary PRU in Devon and came across many youngsters labelled with ADHD. Towards the end of my time on the unit I came across what the head of the unit described as a case of real ADHD. It truly was enlightening for all of us because the youngster was nothing like we imagined ADHD to be. The lad was fully able to engage with the PRU programme but his mental state would sometimes heighten his emotional state to such an extent that he couldn’t help himself from doing the abnormal. This often meant we would find him sitting in the top of a tree in the car park crying his eyes out or, more bizarrely, he’d take himself off to the community college over the road and would be found sat at the back of a maths class happily engaging with the lesson. We virtually had a hot line between the PRU and the school for when he went missing. We got involved with many cases of so called ADHD which parents tried to get GP to diagnose for the purpose of claiming carers allowance which was rightly due to real ADHD cases. Our head of PRU was also an Ed Psycologist and rarely fell for this ploy when asked for his professional opinion.
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Post by Billy the kid on Jul 16, 2018 22:15:05 GMT
Rob you have my full sympathy, like I said my daughter is 12 and she is exactly the same. We have to box her school uniform up every night otherwise she would never get there. It's pointless asking her to tidy her room we literally have to tell her in bite sizes, the flip side is that this takes so much longer and it frustrates the hell out of her. She also has periods where she cries as she hates being so disorganised but genuinly cant help it. Is she on medication? She was on melatonin to help with sleep issues, but not any more as she sorted her sleep out. They wanted to put her on Ritalin, but I saw that it made kids longed out so I decided to not put her through that. She is off the wall but we live with it, and keep her on a short least. She misses out on sleep over and playing out with friends etc but my boy her older brother keeps he in check when they play out. To be honest it's a living nightmare and people just think "she's a naughty girl" well she is but she can't help it.
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Jul 16, 2018 22:37:10 GMT
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Post by duckling on Jul 16, 2018 22:37:10 GMT
She was on melatonin to help with sleep issues, but not any more as she sorted her sleep out. They wanted to put her on Ritalin, but I saw that it made kids longed out so I decided to not put her through that. She is off the wall but we live with it, and keep her on a short least. She misses out on sleep over and playing out with friends etc but my boy her older brother keeps he in check when they play out. To be honest it's a living nightmare and people just think "she's a naughty girl" well she is but she can't help it. There is evidence from brain scans that when children are medicated, their brains develop to become more like non-ADHD brains. The kids in the study were younger though. I don't know if it would apply to someone who is already 12. Medication helps me a ton. It's especially important when I drive. Without medication, I present a safety risk to myself and others. I had a bad reaction to Ritalin. I take a newer medication called Vyvanse - I think it has a different name in the UK - and it helps me a lot. I know someone who is the opposite - bad reaction to Vyvanse but Ritalin works.
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