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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 19, 2020 15:48:10 GMT
Watched a 3 minute video of him and he looks pretty decent to me. Perhaps not the best way to watch a player but some of the passes he plays impressed me a bit. He seems to have good vision and also looks to play in a number of positions.
MON knows the player which is a bonus, so it's not a gamble at least if he does sign for us.
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Post by markby on Jul 19, 2020 18:04:06 GMT
McNair is pretty nailed on really isn’t he? I think there’s a fair chance either McNair or Dallas will be here next season, if not both of them. I'd be astonished if Dallas went to Stoke - or any Championship side next season, genuinely astonished.
But if you could get McNair, he'd be a terrific signing. He was very highly rated at Man U, but was unfortunate that his emergence there coincided with the managerial uncertainty after Ferguson left. Even then, he made 16 PL appearances in 2014/15 as a teenager under Louis van Gaal. Apparently LvG saw him as a Right Back, so Paddy eventually left for Sunderland in order to get more regular PL starts, in a position where he was more comfortable, CB or MF. (I saw him play for NI at RB in a friendly in Scotland and he was crap - never again!)
Anyhow, he was desperately unlucky with injuries at Sund'land - did his ACL and has suffered more bad luck at Boro. And now he's fit again it may be that he's not a Warnock type of player (you know, likes to pass the ball or run with it, rather than hoofing it), which could explain the transfer speculation.
That said, the Belfast Telegraph/Sunday Life is a rag, who maybe heard that Paddy might be a bit unsure of things at Boro and then printed the lazy "link" with Michael to give them a headline.
But as I said, if you coulod get him, that would be a real coup, since at the right club with the right manager, he can be PL class, no question.
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Post by Jimm on Jul 19, 2020 18:19:04 GMT
Watched a 3 minute video of him and he looks pretty decent to me. Perhaps not the best way to watch a player but some of the passes he plays impressed me a bit. He seems to have good vision and also looks to play in a number of positions. MON knows the player which is a bonus, so it's not a gamble at least if he does sign for us. I could show you a 3 minute of Lee Gregory and you'd think he was a 30 goal a season striker...
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jul 19, 2020 18:29:01 GMT
Hopefully he’d slip in at DM instead of Cousins.
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 19, 2020 18:47:25 GMT
Watched a 3 minute video of him and he looks pretty decent to me. Perhaps not the best way to watch a player but some of the passes he plays impressed me a bit. He seems to have good vision and also looks to play in a number of positions. MON knows the player which is a bonus, so it's not a gamble at least if he does sign for us. I could show you a 3 minute of Lee Gregory and you'd think he was a 30 goal a season striker... I doubt it. 3 minutes of tap ins wouldn't convince me he was a striker. If he was scoring a large variety of goals comfortably then I might think he had something about him but he doesn't.
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Post by neddy on Jul 19, 2020 18:49:18 GMT
Another 2 years on contact so won’t be cheap?
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Post by pottersrule on Jul 19, 2020 18:53:16 GMT
Another 2 years on contact so won’t be cheap? Boro fans don’t seem too bothered about him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 19:45:55 GMT
I used to work with a fella called Pat McNair in Maghera. He didn't like football much but was good at those table top footie games in pubs. I think he ran off With Connor McKeown's girlfriend. Will keep you all updated if he ever comes back.
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Post by LankyPotter on Jul 19, 2020 20:18:55 GMT
Another 2 years on contact so won’t be cheap? Out of favour with Warnock apparently, no idea how true that is.
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Post by neckender78 on Jul 19, 2020 20:47:49 GMT
I'd be surprised to see dallas leave Leeds, he's became quite the utility player there and think he'd be happy to have a squad player role for the chance to be in the PL. To be honest I don't really think there are alot of players in the NI squad which could improve the Stoke team. I was very surprised to see Jordan Thompson join in January, he hasn't had alot of opportunities for NI but certainly hasn't came across has a hot prospect when I've seen him. I think Michael has to be weary of signing too many NI internationals. When Lawrie Sanchez left NI for Fulham he signed a good 4 or 5 players from the NI squad and didn't do too well. Anyway aside from the names already mentioned in the thread. A few other players which might be able to do a job; Jordan Jones, George Saville, Craig Cathcart (Depending on Watford relegation and new manager), Gavin Whyte, Corry Evans and Shane Ferguson. Also McGovern or Peacock-Farrell to challenge Davies for the #1 if Butland was to leave. Good summary thanks and a good point on too many NI signings and how it failed at Fulham but I think there are some that would improve our squad having watched them play for you. Both Jordan Jones and Whyte would improve our current wide attacking options. They both have something nobody else in our squad has actual pace. Been impressed when watched Jones and he seems to be out of favour with Gerrard. There were loan rumours in Jan and would like to think MON would be all over it if he were made available. McNair and Dallas would both improve our team but we have so much overpaid deadwood to try and get rid of before we could look at either of them. Jamal Lewis would be perfect for us (we have been crying out for an actual left back for 5 years) but the fee would be far too high with FFP and couldn't see him leaving Norwich for a championship team.
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Post by baystokie on Jul 19, 2020 22:34:11 GMT
I'd be surprised to see dallas leave Leeds, he's became quite the utility player there and think he'd be happy to have a squad player role for the chance to be in the PL. To be honest I don't really think there are alot of players in the NI squad which could improve the Stoke team. I was very surprised to see Jordan Thompson join in January, he hasn't had alot of opportunities for NI but certainly hasn't came across has a hot prospect when I've seen him. I think Michael has to be weary of signing too many NI internationals. When Lawrie Sanchez left NI for Fulham he signed a good 4 or 5 players from the NI squad and didn't do too well. Anyway aside from the names already mentioned in the thread. A few other players which might be able to do a job; Jordan Jones, George Saville, Craig Cathcart (Depending on Watford relegation and new manager), Gavin Whyte, Corry Evans and Shane Ferguson. Also McGovern or Peacock-Farrell to challenge Davies for the #1 if Butland was to leave. Good summary thanks and a good point on too many NI signings and how it failed at Fulham but I think there are some that would improve our squad having watched them play for you. Both Jordan Jones and Whyte would improve our current wide attacking options. They both have something nobody else in our squad has actual pace. Been impressed when watched Jones and he seems to be out of favour with Gerrard. There were loan rumours in Jan and would like to think MON would be all over it if he were made available. McNair and Dallas would both improve our team but we have so much overpaid deadwood to try and get rid of before we could look at either of them. Jamal Lewis would be perfect for us (we have been crying out for an actual left back for 5 years) but the fee would be far too high with FFP and couldn't see him leaving Norwich for a championship team. Why? He would only be moving from one Championship club to another!
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Post by markby on Jul 20, 2020 13:06:22 GMT
I'd be surprised to see dallas leave Leeds, he's became quite the utility player there and think he'd be happy to have a squad player role for the chance to be in the PL. To be honest I don't really think there are alot of players in the NI squad which could improve the Stoke team. I was very surprised to see Jordan Thompson join in January, he hasn't had alot of opportunities for NI but certainly hasn't came across has a hot prospect when I've seen him. I think Michael has to be weary of signing too many NI internationals. When Lawrie Sanchez left NI for Fulham he signed a good 4 or 5 players from the NI squad and didn't do too well. Anyway aside from the names already mentioned in the thread. A few other players which might be able to do a job; Jordan Jones, George Saville, Craig Cathcart (Depending on Watford relegation and new manager), Gavin Whyte, Corry Evans and Shane Ferguson. Also McGovern or Peacock-Farrell to challenge Davies for the #1 if Butland was to leave. Good summary thanks and a good point on too many NI signings and how it failed at Fulham but I think there are some that would improve our squad having watched them play for you. Both Jordan Jones and Whyte would improve our current wide attacking options. They both have something nobody else in our squad has actual pace. Been impressed when watched Jones and he seems to be out of favour with Gerrard. There were loan rumours in Jan and would like to think MON would be all over it if he were made available. McNair and Dallas would both improve our team but we have so much overpaid deadwood to try and get rid of before we could look at either of them. Jamal Lewis would be perfect for us (we have been crying out for an actual left back for 5 years) but the fee would be far too high with FFP and couldn't see him leaving Norwich for a championship team. Re your bold, Sanchez failed at Fulham because he wasn't good enough, not because his signings weren't. The proof of that is how his management career fizzled out, while players like Davis, Hughes and Baird all went on to enjoy a very good career at and after Fulham.
As for Jones, he's got the talent, and Michael threw him into the team after impressing in training after his first couple of call-ups to the NI squad. But I get the clear impression that that and his transfer to Rangers went to his head, which didn't impress either Gerrard or Michael.
Whyte is a good player, but would he want to leave Cardiff?
Dallas would never leave Leeds for Stoke and I'd be v.surprised if Lewis would want to come in, though both would hugely improve Stoke. McNair would be a real coup if Stoke could get him, but I seriously doubt he's affordable. Whether Boro stay up (likely) and/or Warnock stays (who knows?) could have a big bearing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 13:12:33 GMT
I've no issue with padding out the squad of O'Neill loyalists, one of the most crucial things at this level is to have a squad who will fight for the manager. Brunt on a free would be useful in the dressing room and honestly McNair is exactly what we need in midfield imo.
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Post by sheds1862 on Jul 20, 2020 13:38:16 GMT
Another 2 years on contact so won’t be cheap? Out of favour with Warnock apparently, no idea how true that is. To be honest I think that's irrelevant as Thursday morning Warnock is gone and they will be appointing a new manager soon
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Post by gaznandi on Jul 20, 2020 17:01:20 GMT
Out of favour with Warnock apparently, no idea how true that is. To be honest I think that's irrelevant as Thursday morning Warnock is gone and they will be appointing a new manager soon They want £5m according to reports earlier today
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Post by tejstokie on Jul 20, 2020 17:20:56 GMT
I'd take him.
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Post by march4 on Jul 20, 2020 17:26:02 GMT
For £5M ???? I wouldn’t have him for any sort of fee.
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Post by lordb on Jul 20, 2020 17:26:48 GMT
For £5M ???? I wouldn’t have him for any sort of fee. Why? Decent midfielder at this level
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 20, 2020 17:28:30 GMT
Depends on what kind of money we get from our clear out sale I guess?
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Post by tejstokie on Jul 20, 2020 17:29:52 GMT
For £5M ???? I wouldn’t have him for any sort of fee. If we could get him with a total of £5mil, 3 cash now and 2mil for later seasons. I definitely would. Some of the shite we've spent on players in the last few years and got no return. We'd get a decent pro for that.
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Post by biglad180 on Jul 20, 2020 17:48:52 GMT
cannot get in a struggling boro team £5million is a bit steep to me rather go in to the loan market
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Post by biglad180 on Jul 20, 2020 18:17:15 GMT
cannot get in a struggling boro team £5million is a bit steep to me rather go in to the loan market i would not mind see us go for Ethan Ampadu from chesea looks like a good young player 12 month loan
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Post by march4 on Jul 20, 2020 19:00:40 GMT
For £5M ???? I wouldn’t have him for any sort of fee. If we could get him with a total of £5mil, 3 cash now and 2mil for later seasons. I definitely would. Some of the shite we've spent on players in the last few years and got no return. We'd get a decent pro for that. He can’t get into a very poor Boro team. I suggest we steer well clear.
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 20, 2020 19:08:11 GMT
If we could get him with a total of £5mil, 3 cash now and 2mil for later seasons. I definitely would. Some of the shite we've spent on players in the last few years and got no return. We'd get a decent pro for that. He can’t get into a very poor Boro team. I suggest we steer well clear. Didn't Liam Lawrence have a shocker for Sunderland before he signed for us? Some set ups suit players better than others, we have seen it many times where players excel at one club and are shite for others. It's a player he knows so you would expect he knows how to get the best out of him.
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 20, 2020 19:08:37 GMT
If we could get him with a total of £5mil, 3 cash now and 2mil for later seasons. I definitely would. Some of the shite we've spent on players in the last few years and got no return. We'd get a decent pro for that. He can’t get into a very poor Boro team. I suggest we steer well clear. Didn't Liam Lawrence have a shocker for Sunderland before he signed for us? Some set ups suit players better than others, we have seen it many times where players excel at one club and are shite for others. It's a player he knows so you would expect he knows how to get the best out of him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 19:09:31 GMT
If we could get him with a total of £5mil, 3 cash now and 2mil for later seasons. I definitely would. Some of the shite we've spent on players in the last few years and got no return. We'd get a decent pro for that. He can’t get into a very poor Boro team. I suggest we steer well clear. Woods couldn't get into ours but playing at a team who were close to the play offs MON knows him enough
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Post by Davef on Jul 20, 2020 19:14:45 GMT
If we could get him with a total of £5mil, 3 cash now and 2mil for later seasons. I definitely would. Some of the shite we've spent on players in the last few years and got no return. We'd get a decent pro for that. He can’t get into a very poor Boro team. I suggest we steer well clear. Didn't you suggest that Michael O'Neill would last only ten minutes at Stoke? I'd steer clear of any more suggestions if I were you!
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Post by lordb on Jul 20, 2020 19:32:37 GMT
He can’t get into a very poor Boro team. I suggest we steer well clear. Didn't Liam Lawrence have a shocker for Sunderland before he signed for us? Some set ups suit players better than others, we have seen it many times where players excel at one club and are shite for others. It's a player he knows so you would expect he knows how to get the best out of him. Liam left Sunderland for 'other' reasons
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 20, 2020 19:47:48 GMT
Didn't Liam Lawrence have a shocker for Sunderland before he signed for us? Some set ups suit players better than others, we have seen it many times where players excel at one club and are shite for others. It's a player he knows so you would expect he knows how to get the best out of him. Liam left Sunderland for 'other' reasons Ok, for some reason I thought he had a nightmare spell there.
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Post by lordb on Jul 20, 2020 20:47:10 GMT
Liam left Sunderland for 'other' reasons Ok, for some reason I thought he had a nightmare spell there. Your point is still valid, just needed a better example E.g Sheron at Norwich
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