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Post by Pugsley on Jun 18, 2018 21:26:53 GMT
Panama mate. You've just failed GCSE Nogger. I don't think you got the joke Pugs. I did, i just failed miserably to make my own. Never mind.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 18, 2018 21:27:52 GMT
It was never a pen.
We should have had two.
VAR is shit.
We played well on the whole.
Defence needs work.
Lingard and Sterling need to pick themselves up and not worry about their chances missed.
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Post by lordb on Jun 18, 2018 21:33:59 GMT
It was never a pen. We should have had two. VAR is shit. We played well on the whole. Defence needs work. Lingard and Sterling need to pick themselves up and not worry about their chances missed. Lingard appeared to that first miss affect him.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jun 18, 2018 21:33:59 GMT
It was never a pen. We should have had two. VAR is shit. We played well on the whole. Defence needs work. Lingard and Sterling need to pick themselves up and not worry about their chances missed. What do you mean not worry. Lingard could've had a hat-trick. It's awful he couldn't put any of them away.
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Post by ParaPsych on Jun 18, 2018 21:34:20 GMT
Sorry so because we're not great people have to act like miserable bastards? Sorry I didn't realise that. My mistake. Humble apologies. You thick fucking cunt. You're all miserable. Everyone of you complains about all the commentary to the point we have no commentary left. Then all through the england game we're complaining about VAR and tunisian players being a bit mean. IT drives me insane. The reality is we're not that good at football, but Kane is and we're some BTEC Portugal. And don't call me a thick cunt on here because in real life you would just tell me to "calm down mate" No I'd still call you a thick cunt. With a twinkle in my eye though, so you wouldn't get angry, trust me. I don't actually think you're a thick cunt though, because I don't actually think you believe what you're saying. You'd have to have a chronic personality disorder with no understanding of how fellow human beings think for that to be the case. I don't think you do, I think you're just having a bit of fun and letting off some steam. Fair enough. I actually genuinely laughed out loud when I read the BTEC Portugal thing. But you are milking it a bit now.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 18, 2018 21:36:31 GMT
It was never a pen. We should have had two. VAR is shit. We played well on the whole. Defence needs work. Lingard and Sterling need to pick themselves up and not worry about their chances missed. Lingard appeared to that first miss affect him. He did and it was a pretty bad miss but he's got to get over it. We've got some good options to boot him up the arse though so that's good. The defence is the biggest worry.
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Post by turtlefox on Jun 18, 2018 21:38:35 GMT
Thought he had a decent game. Give players time will ya. I can't mate, I think he's an accident waiting to happen at this level. I hope I'm proved wrong of course. Didn't see that myself. Thought he looked very composed for someone who hasn't played much international football.
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Post by senojbor on Jun 18, 2018 21:41:34 GMT
You're all miserable. Everyone of you complains about all the commentary to the point we have no commentary left. Then all through the england game we're complaining about VAR and tunisian players being a bit mean. IT drives me insane. The reality is we're not that good at football, but Kane is and we're some BTEC Portugal. And don't call me a thick cunt on here because in real life you would just tell me to "calm down mate" No I'd still call you a thick cunt. With a twinkle in my eye though, so you wouldn't get angry, trust me. I don't actually think you're a thick cunt though, because I don't actually think you believe what you're saying. You'd have to have a chronic personality disorder with no understanding of how fellow human beings think for that to be the case. I don't think you do, I think you're just having a bit of fun and letting off some steam. Fair enough. I actually genuinely laughed out loud when I read the BTEC Portugal thing. But you are milking it a bit now.
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Post by lordb on Jun 18, 2018 21:44:43 GMT
Lingard appeared to that first miss affect him. He did and it was a pretty bad miss but he's got to get over it. We've got some good options to boot him up the arse though so that's good. The defence is the biggest worry. When we play sides that are better than us would expect Southgate to play Dier AND Henderson in front of the defence.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jun 18, 2018 21:45:39 GMT
Tunisia are the best African side. Had good results against Portugal and Turkey coming into the tournament. They were difficult opponents especially with their cheating. Performances don't matter in this tournament. Only results. Performances will improve if we can move further on in this tournament Is there ever a time when performances DO matter? You always hear how they don't and how it's only about results. The World Cup is about both. Well I'd argue any win at a world cup is a good performance. In the modern era there are hardly any teams that are going to thrash other teams. Tunisia has lots of know how and were very difficult especially once the ref gifted them a goal. At this point it is about results. Panama should be much easier. After that you will see performances improve as we progress through the tournament and play higher standard opposition who are as bit more open. But its never going to be pretty playing tunisia in the first game at a world cup
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 18, 2018 21:46:40 GMT
He did and it was a pretty bad miss but he's got to get over it. We've got some good options to boot him up the arse though so that's good. The defence is the biggest worry. When we play sides that are better than us would expect Southgate to play Dier AND Henderson in front of the defence. True but Walker is a weak link and will be targeted like anything.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jun 18, 2018 21:52:55 GMT
First ten mins were good and last 5 were solid. They were a poor team, the ref was awful but we won.
At the end of the day you only need 5 GCSE's to get into college and a BTEC is worth 4.
We're on steady ground, plenty of room for improvement.
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Post by StoKeith on Jun 18, 2018 22:31:02 GMT
I just finished watching on slight delay (family dinner and kids to bed first!). This is what I thought (might just be stating the obvious):
- Brilliant first half, but wasteful
- Pretty bad second half as Tunisia sat back and players got tired after playing high press in humid conditions
- I think that tiredness affected the players decision making and resulted in loads of final ball fuck ups (which is what was so frustrating)
- Southgate should have replaced Sterling and Alli much earlier
- Ref was shite
- VAR really messed up on the two Kane muggings and those decisions HAVE to be called as penalties if weโre to take VAR seriously.
- So refreshing to support a team with a class striker like Kane
- Equally refreshing to watch a team who are so threatening from set pieces - Stones and Maguire in particular are immense in the air.
- I know they do it on purpose, but all that playing about at the back will cost us a goal at some point this tournament
- The order of fixtures and the wins for us and Belgium plays into our hands (and Belgiumsโ) as Panama and Tunisia canโt just sit back next game as theyโll need a result to have a chance of progressing.
- I think Sterlingโs legs are actually made of jelly
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jun 18, 2018 22:57:32 GMT
You're all miserable. Everyone of you complains about all the commentary to the point we have no commentary left. Then all through the england game we're complaining about VAR and tunisian players being a bit mean. IT drives me insane. The reality is we're not that good at football, but Kane is and we're some BTEC Portugal. And don't call me a thick cunt on here because in real life you would just tell me to "calm down mate" No I'd still call you a thick cunt. With a twinkle in my eye though, so you wouldn't get angry, trust me. I don't actually think you're a thick cunt though, because I don't actually think you believe what you're saying. You'd have to have a chronic personality disorder with no understanding of how fellow human beings think for that to be the case. I don't think you do, I think you're just having a bit of fun and letting off some steam. Fair enough. I actually genuinely laughed out loud when I read the BTEC Portugal thing. But you are milking it a bit now. I am being serious. That's exactly what we are. We have a few other players with a bit of quality, but we truly can only rely on Kane. And Kane can only get us so far as Ronaldo will only get Portugal so far.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 18, 2018 22:57:35 GMT
It was never a pen. We should have had two. VAR is shit. We played well on the whole. Defence needs work. Lingard and Sterling need to pick themselves up and not worry about their chances missed. What do you mean not worry. Lingard could've had a hat-trick. It's awful he couldn't put any of them away. I don't think the one that hit the post was that easy but I agree about the others, but it happens, on another day he puts them away.
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Post by ParaPsych on Jun 18, 2018 23:03:54 GMT
No I'd still call you a thick cunt. With a twinkle in my eye though, so you wouldn't get angry, trust me. I don't actually think you're a thick cunt though, because I don't actually think you believe what you're saying. You'd have to have a chronic personality disorder with no understanding of how fellow human beings think for that to be the case. I don't think you do, I think you're just having a bit of fun and letting off some steam. Fair enough. I actually genuinely laughed out loud when I read the BTEC Portugal thing. But you are milking it a bit now. I am being serious. That's exactly what we are. We have a few other players with a bit of quality, but we truly can only rely on Kane. And Kane can only get us so far as Ronaldo will only get Portugal so far. No I know you're being serious about England as a team, I broadly agree, it just doesn't anger me much. I was on about the bit about the fans.
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 19, 2018 0:52:23 GMT
It was never a pen. We should have had two. VAR is shit. We played well on the whole. Defence needs work. Lingard and Sterling need to pick themselves up and not worry about their chances missed. Why do you say the defence needs work? They had nothing to do in the entirety of the match. Literally nothing?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 19, 2018 5:50:26 GMT
It was never a pen. We should have had two. VAR is shit. We played well on the whole. Defence needs work. Lingard and Sterling need to pick themselves up and not worry about their chances missed. Why do you say the defence needs work? They had nothing to do in the entirety of the match. Literally nothing? They looked shaky in the friendlies and nervy near our own box last night. They conspired to give a goal to a team who came for a goalless draw.
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 19, 2018 5:57:25 GMT
Harry Maguire looks like a modern day Terry Fenwick or Steve Foster. Surely to goodness we've got a sharper centre half than that ponderous lump. Just before they got the pen I posted that we should have put these to the sword by now. & that was the problem for me, to much fannying about & not enough urgency. They were like kids with all the time in the world. Need to get their fingers out!
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 19, 2018 6:25:18 GMT
We should have had two pennos because Hazzer got mauled at corners. When it became apparent the ref was onto the mauling they couldn't do it and he nabbed the winner.
There should have been no question of late winners we should have been home and dry a long time before.
We showed a lot of positive qualities but don't half make it hard for ourselves.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 19, 2018 6:41:20 GMT
Can't disagree that he took his goals well but without the engine room he's worthless. They were a poor team who offered very little, this will not be the case after the group stage. Don't get me wrong, I only wish for two things in football in my life time, England winning the World Cup and Stoke winning the premier league. Unfortunately, I was too young when England last won the World Cup for it to have any impact. One can only dream but so far so good I thought the unsung player of the night was Henderson. The lad covered every blade of grass, showing excellent passing aswell. Something just tells me this side are really intent on showing a lot of folk up. Seeing Southgate on the end got me screaming a huge gooaaarrnnn at the tv. Weโre there to win this thing. Hmmmm. ๐๐โบ
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 7:40:49 GMT
I thought the unsung player of the night was Henderson. The lad covered every blade of grass, showing excellent passing aswell. Something just tells me this side are really intent on showing a lot of folk up. Seeing Southgate on the end got me screaming a huge gooaaarrnnn at the tv. Weโre there to win this thing. Hmmmm. ๐๐โบ Donโt leave me hanging joe what were your thoughts mate?
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Post by werrington on Jun 19, 2018 7:50:56 GMT
Donโt leave me hanging joe what were your thoughts mate? Henderson and Trippier were immense ....as for Deli Alli when was the last time he performed well for England? A fantastic player but he is certainly going under the radar where criticism is handed out
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Post by vahl on Jun 19, 2018 7:55:52 GMT
Donโt leave me hanging joe what were your thoughts mate? Henderson and Trippier were immense ....as for Deli Alli when was the last time he performed well for England? A fantastic player but he is certainly going under the radar where criticism is handed out Trippier was our best player throughout I think too. Henderson was also brilliant. I've been saying for ages that Dele Alli can't play 352, he looks really out of sorts. I can see why he was picked though. I still reckon that we are one of the better teams to have played so far this World Cup - we were moving the ball really well and our pace on the attack is electrifying.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 7:56:50 GMT
Donโt leave me hanging joe what were your thoughts mate? Henderson and Trippier were immense ....as for Deli Alli when was the last time he performed well for England? A fantastic player but he is certainly going under the radar where criticism is handed out Agree with that mate, I had Henderson as MOTM with trippier a very close second. Alli again a weak link with sterling. Weโve got options now, surely loftus cheek and rashford get the nod next game. Iโd possible go rose over young aswell
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 7:59:28 GMT
Henderson and Trippier were immense ....as for Deli Alli when was the last time he performed well for England? A fantastic player but he is certainly going under the radar where criticism is handed out Trippier was our best player throughout I think too. Henderson was also brilliant. I've been saying for ages that Dele Alli can't play 352, he looks really out of sorts. I can see why he was picked though. I still reckon that we are one of the better teams to have played so far this World Cup - we were moving the ball really well and our pace on the attack is electrifying. Agree. And letโs be fair, that was a learning curve for everyone, manager and players. This young side will grow in confidence in cinvinced. We know we canโt be that wasteful against better sides but we will settle now the first game is done
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Post by george2again on Jun 19, 2018 8:06:29 GMT
I was watching the game out in Turkey.I arrived fairly late and just saw the team on the screen. I turned to my son and said is that the bench? 1-7 looked piss poor. I have to say if anyone thinks that was a decent performance they are deluded. That was second rate V a second rate team. For me the system does not suit the players we have and we will be dismantled by bigger and better teams. Well get through but go out in the first KO round as normal. Personally, I don't think Southgate should have been anywhere near the England job and to me he is another FA lick arse without the nouse at this level. Think we will see post Panama he will need arm bands and a rubber ring on he will be so far out of his depth.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jun 19, 2018 8:08:08 GMT
VAR is ruining this World Cup imo. Is VAR meant to help the ref or piss off and confuse the fans?. It certainly did last night. Their penalty was very doubtful but England should have had at least two blatant stonewall penos. It appears that corruption of the game has been handed another tool because anybody but a blindman or somebody in receipt of a thick brown envelope would have missed them on VAR.
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Post by Northy on Jun 19, 2018 8:09:14 GMT
Henderson and Trippier were immense ....as for Deli Alli when was the last time he performed well for England? A fantastic player but he is certainly going under the radar where criticism is handed out Agree with that mate, I had Henderson as MOTM with trippier a very close second. Alli again a weak link with sterling. Weโve got options now, surely loftus cheek and rashford get the nod next game. Iโd possible go rose over young aswell Agree those 3 should come in for the next game, and maybe cahill and Jones for Walker and maguire (Walker is on a yellow)
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jun 19, 2018 8:11:21 GMT
I share Bayerns concerns about our defence. Tunisia literally did nothing going forward and yet we looked uneasy at the back. Stones doesnt read the game well enough to play that central role. Walker is not a natural centre-half and Maguire looks a little slow.
Stirling and Alli were the weak-links going forward but they werent terrible. I would probably give Rashford the nod for the Panama game and possible a couple more changes. Alli just went into his shell after he got injured.
Trippier was simply outstanding, his crossing and dead-balls were brilliant. Good shout from Southgate to put him on all the set-piece duties.
Getting Kane in the goals is massive. Like all strikers he can go on streaks so what a way to start. Hes probably eyeing up a hat-trick against Panama now
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