samuel32
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Post by samuel32 on Jun 16, 2018 15:21:53 GMT
Commentators mentioned Iceland have more or less the same population as Stoke. So why are they drawing with Argentina and we can’t seem to get a homegrown player in our starting line up? Does the problem lie with a lack of talent, attitude or ambition on the part of young local lads. Or is that they aren’t being coached well enough?
It seems like Iceland have an unbelievable coaching set up that’s making the most of a small pool of players. Something Stoke and English football in general clearly aren’t doing. So come on Stoke let’s take a leaf out of Iceland’s book and get the next Sir Stan coming through.
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Post by nigerianstokie on Jun 16, 2018 15:27:51 GMT
That's not a fair comparison. Part of our population is made up of Burslem.
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Post by GoBoks on Jun 16, 2018 15:35:00 GMT
Commentators mentioned Iceland have more or less the same population as Stoke. So why are they drawing with Argentina and we can’t seem to get a homegrown player in our starting line up? Does the problem lie with a lack of talent, attitude or ambition on the part of young local lads. Or is that they aren’t being coached well enough? It seems like Iceland have an unbelievable coaching set up that’s making the most of a small pool of players. Something Stoke and English football in general clearly aren’t doing. So come on Stoke let’s take a leaf out of Iceland’s book and get the next Sir Stan coming through. Why? You want the next Sir Stan to join the Man U set up at age 8? The days of a local lad coming through the ranks and playing for their hometown club are all but gone! |
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Jun 16, 2018 15:35:16 GMT
Facilities.
It's something I would love to see the club, Vale and Crewe do by getting together to work with the council to fund better facilities for all school children in the area.
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Post by redrob on Jun 16, 2018 15:42:29 GMT
Facilities. It's something I would love to see the club, Vale and Crewe do by getting together to work with the council to fund better facilities for all school children in the area. Why Crewe they aren't in Stoke on Trent they aren't even in Staffordshire |
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Post by LDE76 on Jun 16, 2018 15:49:17 GMT
Iceland is a country. Foreign ancestry aside, they can't have their young lads poached by other, more illustrious nations.  |
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Post by crowey on Jun 16, 2018 15:50:23 GMT
Facilities. Therein lies the problem. They have more indoor pitches per capita than rest of the world. Do not mess with them
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Post by heworksardtho on Jun 16, 2018 16:00:17 GMT
Prefer Aldi meself but that’s just me 😃
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Post by yes on Jun 16, 2018 16:03:02 GMT
Facilities. It's something I would love to see the club, Vale and Crewe do by getting together to work with the council to fund better facilities for all school children in the area. Why Crewe they aren't in Stoke on Trent they aren't even in Staffordshire They don't consider themselves as being part of the same area as us despite the proximity. Neither do I, fecking inbreds. No offence SCFCWebby 😉 |
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Post by leicspotter on Jun 16, 2018 16:06:00 GMT
Each squad has 23 players...so all you really need is to have 23 players playing in top leagues around the world...English players very rarely venture from these shores and many end up not being first choice regulars at their clubs...it may be linked to money  Club football is pretty much the same...the pool of players is not restricted to the local area, just as non-local clubs can lure players away My brothers grandson was at Man Utd when he was just 5 years old (lives in Stone)...didn't stay after the first year, but none the less, that is how young they take them on Isn't Arsenal s academy predominantly French? We live in a global football economy |
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samuel32
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Post by samuel32 on Jun 16, 2018 16:12:23 GMT
GoBoks, you can’t argue that our academy hasn’t produced. There hasn’t been the next Sir Stan to get snapped up by any team. If you’re thinking of James Wilson at Man U I would say he’s done a great deal yet
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Post by skiptomylou on Jun 16, 2018 16:18:01 GMT
The price to obtain uefa coaching badges in england dont help. A B and C license badges cost thousands. local dads running teams for their kids arent going to pay those fee's. where as in alot of european countries its alot cheaper to obtain these. probably funded by the FAs, that way alot more kids get the same high level coaching everywhere.
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samuel32
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Post by samuel32 on Jun 16, 2018 16:23:14 GMT
leicspotter, yeah take your point. Can’t really compare a nation and an area. It does show though that you can do a lot with a relatively small group of players if you get the right coaching in place
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Post by Northy on Jun 16, 2018 16:58:34 GMT
Each squad has 23 players...so all you really need is to have 23 players playing in top leagues around the world...English players very rarely venture from these shores and many end up not being first choice regulars at their clubs...it may be linked to money Club football is pretty much the same...the pool of players is not restricted to the local area, just as non-local clubs can lure players away My brothers grandson was at Man Utd when he was just 5 years old (lives in Stone)...didn't stay after the first year, but none the less, that is how young they take them on Isn't Arsenal s academy predominantly French? We live in a global football economy They can go to training schools but can't sign them until under 9s age group ? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 16, 2018 17:03:52 GMT
GoBoks, you can’t argue that our academy hasn’t produced. There hasn’t been the next Sir Stan to get snapped up by any team. If you’re thinking of James Wilson at Man U I would say he’s done a great deal yet Yeah you can. It just depends at what level doesn't it? Throughout the Football League there are our academy graduates. We've got Tom Edwards in the current squad who showed he was good enough for the PL too. Could it be better? Of course it could but to say it hasn't produced is just wrong. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jun 16, 2018 17:09:59 GMT
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 16, 2018 17:13:18 GMT
Iceland do what Belgium do - all teams play the same system at every age group right up to the national team. In England the FA don't have the authority to do that and the clubs (and their massive turnover of managers, each with their own ideas) don't have the interest. I'm not suggesting we go that way - but for smaller countries it works.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Jun 16, 2018 20:12:27 GMT
You cant get oatcakes in Iceland.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2018 8:44:22 GMT
I don't care how well they do for such a small nation.
20% possesion, parking the bus bull shit is tedious to watch especially on the world stage. Fuck em off and let's see some proper entertainment.
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Post by ElworthPotter on Jun 17, 2018 9:17:26 GMT
I don't care how well they do for such a small nation. 20% possesion, parking the bus bull shit is tedious to watch especially on the world stage. Fuck em off and let's see some proper entertainment. A team that’s never qualified for the World Cup before getting a draw against two time winners with the world’s best or second best player (depending on what side of the fence you’re on) isn’t entertaining enough for you? Teams have to do what they have to do to get results. It got us to the prem and a cup final. Why should Iceland set up to attack Argentina knowing they’ll get played off the park? |
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Post by loosestools on Jun 17, 2018 9:22:13 GMT
Their coach is called Pulis Ballisson
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jun 17, 2018 9:27:15 GMT
Facilities. It's something I would love to see the club, Vale and Crewe do by getting together to work with the council to fund better facilities for all school children in the area. What in gods name would port vale bring to the table?. There is one proper football club in the area. We should have facilities/training centres dotted about the city, we should train local coAches and run football schools year round, that is how to do it.it would cost a lot less than what we spent on imbula |
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Post by superheroantonius on Jun 17, 2018 18:05:16 GMT
I think Iceland have shown v England in the euros
And v Argentina at this world cup ...
That having your domestic league , not stuffed full of foreigners , from all over the world
And actually letting your own people , who grew up in the country , come through and play for their own teams
Maybe not be the worst idea in the world
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Post by mattador78 on Jun 17, 2018 18:38:11 GMT
I think Iceland have shown v England in the euros And v Argentina at this world cup ... That having your domestic league , not stuffed full of foreigners , from all over the world And actually letting your own people , who grew up in the country , come through and play for their own teams Maybe not be the worst idea in the world I think the opposite a lot of those Icelandic player play abroad same as most of the other nations. It’s about time our players were technically and mentally capable and not financially driven to get out there and perform in La Liga or seria A some have now gone to Germany good on them hopefully they benefit from expanding their footballing education |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2018 18:52:55 GMT
Why compare with Stoke?
I know Its like Iceland in the ground most of the season....but why pick Stoke?
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Post by superheroantonius on Jun 17, 2018 19:34:19 GMT
I think Iceland have shown v England in the euros And v Argentina at this world cup ... That having your domestic league , not stuffed full of foreigners , from all over the world And actually letting your own people , who grew up in the country , come through and play for their own teams Maybe not be the worst idea in the world I think the opposite a lot of those Icelandic player play abroad same as most of the other nations. It’s about time our players were technically and mentally capable and not financially driven to get out there and perform in La Liga or seria A some have now gone to Germany good on them hopefully they benefit from expanding their footballing education Yeah but they have come through in Iceland before going to earn there money abroad In the same way Gary lineker , Paul gascoigne , Paul ince , David Platt , had the opportunity to come through in England before succeeding abroad . I am not sure David Platt would have made it today. It took him a long time to come through , in the days when young English players got a second chance |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2018 19:37:34 GMT
Why compare with Stoke? I know Its like Iceland in the ground most of the season....but why pick Stoke? Because it has a similar population to Iceland. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2018 19:57:06 GMT
Why compare with Stoke? I know Its like Iceland in the ground most of the season....but why pick Stoke? Because it has a similar population to Iceland. Like other cities in England probably |
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Post by kustokie on Jun 17, 2018 20:01:51 GMT
A few years ago Iceland made a huge commitment to building the infrastructure and training qualified coaches.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2018 20:58:05 GMT
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