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Post by march4 on Jun 16, 2018 22:29:06 GMT
When folk on here objected to TP replacing Hughes.
There was only one man alive who could have saved us and still some posters wouldn’t have it.
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Post by professorplump on Jun 16, 2018 22:58:47 GMT
When Lambert only managed to win 1 out of his opening 6 games. Those first six games he had were as comfortable looking as any new manager could expect. I expected us to win at least 3 of them and get ourselves out of trouble.
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Post by kustokie on Jun 16, 2018 23:15:08 GMT
Without wishing to dwell too much on last season, when was the moment that you just knew in your bones that we were going to go down? I mean, you probably still had a flicker of hope but, essentially, you just knew it was inevitable? For me, the Charlie Adam penalty against Brighton. I was thinking the same thing - that was exactly when I knew.
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Post by tony1234 on Jun 16, 2018 23:25:38 GMT
Lambert appointment.
Suspected at start of season we just didn't have enough goals, and we were leaking all over the place, so it was more worrying than any season but the first in the PL. When Hughes was sacked, it all depended on the manager coming in, and Jan singings. We needed a really big game-changing window. (Ala Etherington, Beattie and some)
The announcement of Lambert - coupled with lack of signing striker/winger in March - made it look like either the Board had given up or completely lost the plot. (Especially with Wimmer signing too: At that point, i didn't realise he was utter shite, but did feel that if had 18m to spend, it was at the other end of the pitch because we had decent defenders, who were just not organised well enough). So, relegation look odds on from then on for me. You can't play a PL season without 2-3 decent penetrative attackers.
Had we got MON and signed a couple of attackers perm or on loan and given it a "real" go, then it might have been different. Thin margins, in the end of course (Leicester, WHU, Brighton, Burnley)
Sad thing is that this team had some good players - nothing wrong with the defence, once organised. I like Allen. N'Diaye is good. Shaq was great. But we also had some utter and complete deadwood kicking around that sunk us, like Fletcher, and of course the lamentable unprofessionalism of Behrinho. And were generally too toothless.
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Post by ancientowl on Jun 17, 2018 0:48:34 GMT
It was so close at the bottom, I can't remember the exact time but it was late on, Around when Diouf missed sitters 2/3 weeks on the bounce and seeing Lambert with his head in his hands and on his knees outside his technical area, then seeing Diouf on the team sheet the following week I just knew we wouldn't win games
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Post by philb on Jun 17, 2018 1:20:39 GMT
When folk on here objected to TP replacing Hughes. There was only one man alive who could have saved us and still some posters wouldn’t have it. To be honest I don’t think anybody bar maybe Pep Guardiola could have saved us with the state we were in.
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 17, 2018 2:42:56 GMT
When folk on here objected to TP replacing Hughes. There was only one man alive who could have saved us and still some posters wouldn’t have it. To be honest I don’t think anybody bar maybe Pep Guardiola could have saved us with the state we were in. Which is to say you think Lambert’s performance with our team was as close to perfection as it was possible to expect from any manager on earth. Such a bizarre notion that nobody could have kept us up... all anyone had to do was marginally improve on Hughes’ terrible points per game record, with an improved squad, a run of pretty easy fixtures and a bit of new manager bounce. Lambert managed to make it worse.
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Post by kjpt140v on Jun 17, 2018 5:32:14 GMT
Coventry City
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Post by philb on Jun 17, 2018 12:15:14 GMT
To be honest I don’t think anybody bar maybe Pep Guardiola could have saved us with the state we were in. Which is to say you think Lambert’s performance with our team was as close to perfection as it was possible to expect from any manager on earth. Such a bizarre notion that nobody could have kept us up... all anyone had to do up was marginally improve on Hughes’ terrible points per game record with an improved squad, a run of pretty easy fixtures and a bit of new manager bounce. Lambert managed to make it worse. You could just as easily say it’s a bizarre notion to say that TP could have kept us up. What did Pulis know more about our squad than Lambert or even Pep Guardiola would have known. Just because he managed us before doesn’t mean he would have succeeded where Lambert or anyone else for that matter would have probably failed.
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Post by parsonage1955 on Jun 17, 2018 12:28:59 GMT
West Ham. It could have been five. Between two bottom six sides and us at home too. We looked gone. Well gone.
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Post by Tosh on Jun 17, 2018 12:34:13 GMT
Coventry cup game. It was clearly evident things weren’t right behind the scenes. Poor performances on the pitch and things not right off it... it was only going to end one way. Same for me, I went and remember thinking that this was the point of no return
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jun 17, 2018 12:59:06 GMT
The defeat to Newcastle. I'm still staggered as to why he hasn't sacked immediately after that game.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jun 17, 2018 13:00:30 GMT
To be honest I don’t think anybody bar maybe Pep Guardiola could have saved us with the state we were in. Which is to say you think Lambert’s performance with our team was as close to perfection as it was possible to expect from any manager on earth. Such a bizarre notion that nobody could have kept us up... all anyone had to do up was marginally improve on Hughes’ terrible points per game record with an improved squad, a run of pretty easy fixtures and a bit of new manager bounce. Lambert managed to make it worse. Glad there's at least someone else who doesn't buy this notion that "no one could have kept us up" There's been significantly worse teams, in even more difficult situations who've survived after a managerial change.
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Post by smatty88 on Jun 17, 2018 13:18:08 GMT
Our relegation was 2 years in the making. Hughes got complacent, his team selections and tactics were baffling at times as were his decisions to give players new contracts then stop playing them. The confidence over time seemed to drain from the squad.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jun 17, 2018 14:12:02 GMT
When we appointed Lambert.
Literally unbelievable. Think this was also my point I realised we were doomed.... We looked relegation certainties when we lost to Coventry in the cup, then we appointed Lambert, and it just confirmed it!!! Actually, I've just remembered.... It was at the friendly match with Sheffield United....after the game we were returning back to the car and I turned to my lad and said " we'll go down this season"!!!
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Post by puddledpotter on Jun 17, 2018 14:30:05 GMT
I had a feeling of unease for some time, the fact we effectively displayed relegation form for the previous season and a half added to this but the decider was the Coventry game where the supporters travelled in numbers but the team, manager coaches etc left their brains and backbones at home.
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Post by shaunyboyrb5 on Jun 17, 2018 15:23:36 GMT
When West Ham beat us at home just before Christmas.. I was hoping after then tbh!
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Post by homer32 on Jun 17, 2018 15:41:11 GMT
Without wishing to dwell too much on last season, when was the moment that you just knew in your bones that we were going to go down? I mean, you probably still had a flicker of hope but, essentially, you just knew it was inevitable? For me, the Charlie Adam penalty against Brighton. I was thinking the same thing - that was exactly when I knew. I remember saying to the guy next to me as Jese and Adam argued over who was taking the penalty that "our whole season hinged on this" and so it proved to be.If Adam had scored that penalty we would have stayed up I'm certain.
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Post by kustokie on Jun 17, 2018 16:15:53 GMT
Which is to say you think Lambert’s performance with our team was as close to perfection as it was possible to expect from any manager on earth. Such a bizarre notion that nobody could have kept us up... all anyone had to do up was marginally improve on Hughes’ terrible points per game record with an improved squad, a run of pretty easy fixtures and a bit of new manager bounce. Lambert managed to make it worse. Glad there's at least someone else who doesn't buy this notion that "no one could have kept us up" There's been significantly worse teams, in even more difficult situations who've survived after a managerial change. We had better players by far than all the teams in the bottom half of the league. We went down because we had a manager that lost his way and should have been let go at the end of the previous season if not earlier. This was totally preventable.
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 17, 2018 16:36:29 GMT
Which is to say you think Lambert’s performance with our team was as close to perfection as it was possible to expect from any manager on earth. Such a bizarre notion that nobody could have kept us up... all anyone had to do up was marginally improve on Hughes’ terrible points per game record with an improved squad, a run of pretty easy fixtures and a bit of new manager bounce. Lambert managed to make it worse. You could just as easily say it’s a bizarre notion to say that TP could have kept us up. What did Pulis know more about our squad than Lambert or even Pep Guardiola would have known. Just because he managed us before doesn’t mean he would have succeeded where Lambert or anyone else for that matter would have probably failed. I wasn’t on about Pulis at all, but as it happens it’s very hard to imagine him (or anyone else) making as much of a mess of it as Lambert did
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Post by cannonpotter on Jun 17, 2018 17:18:13 GMT
Closing of the January window. No new striker
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Jun 17, 2018 17:18:25 GMT
When Coates failed to sack Hughes at the end of last season when Arsenal handed out a 4-1 thrashing. I knew then things could only get worse & the blame firmly lies with people at the top as it was all unavoidable.
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Post by superheroantonius on Jun 17, 2018 17:53:32 GMT
Transfer deadline day
A new manager ( Lambert ) but no new strike force
Imo lambo was not Lou macari style , good for the club Nor was he , Brian little style bad for the club
I personally couldn't understand a word he was saying , but he seemed to get more honest effort out of the players ,all over the pitch than Hughes
But with berahino and Jesse behaving like tarts and diouf forgetting to how to play football , our attack just wasn't good enough to cut it in the prem
Apparently now the horse has bolted , we are signing a couple of strikers
Oh well , better late than never !!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2018 19:00:31 GMT
As soon as diouf became our main striker
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