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Post by Gods on May 28, 2018 11:31:22 GMT
Don't Google it folks, you don't know what you'll find  But where are we with the aged eight, the 32+ brigade? These are their ages at the start of next season. 37 Peter Crouch 32 Charlie Adam 34 Darren Fletcher 34 Glenn Johnson 32 Ibrahim Affelay 35 Lee Grant 32 Geoff Cameron 32 Stephen Ireland I think Ireland was dispatched by text wasn't he? And Glenn Johnson is out of contract. Affelay ended the season on the naughty step didn't he, not sure if there is any coming back from there. Plainly some experience would be a good thing. What should we do? |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 11:34:34 GMT
Out of that lot I'd only keep Grant. All the others are too old, too slow, or in Ireland's case, always injured.
We can look elsewhere for some slightly younger, experienced players.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2018 11:38:15 GMT
I'd only want to keep Grant and Ireland out of that little lot.
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Post by ParaPsych on May 28, 2018 11:49:34 GMT
We don't have enough. We should add to it by getting Walters back. Let's get Whelan and Huth while we're at it.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 11:55:18 GMT
Don't Google it folks, you don't know what you'll find But where are we with aged eight, the 32+ brigade? These are their ages at the start of next season. 37 Peter Crouch 32 Charlie Adam 34 Darren Fletcher 34 Glenn Johnson 32 Ibrahim Affelay 35 Lee Grant 32 Geoff Cameron 32 Stephen Ireland I think Ireland was dispatched by text wasn't he? And Glenn Johnson is out of contract. Affelay ended the season on the naughty step didn't he, not sure if there is any coming back from there. Plainly some experience would be a good thing. What should we do? In one fell swoop Gods you've highlighted our frailties all over the park last season, beyond the obvious players out of position to suit the formation of Hughes' reign of fiddling while Rome burned! Add to that Lambert's failure to fill all those gaping holes in the squad coupled with his ineptitude So many weak links in pace, stamina and resistance to injury The seeds of relegation were sown the season or so before |
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Post by Gods on May 28, 2018 12:02:52 GMT
I'd only want to keep Grant and Ireland out of that little lot. Thing is they will all be on a reasonable salary. The ones still on contract are entitled to just "sit" if no one else will match their wage even if we are willing to give them away. So I'm just not sure how easy dispatching them will be. I've always said buying players is easy if you have budget and a cheque book, selling players that you yourselves do not want is much more difficult! And this is the point we are at as we attempt to set the stage for the brave new world! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2018 12:05:25 GMT
I'd only want to keep Grant and Ireland out of that little lot. Thing is they will all be on a reasonable income. The ones still on contract are entitled to just "sit" if no one else will match their wage even if we are willing to give them away. I agree in principle, I'm just not sure how easy dispatching them will be. I've always said buying players is easy if you have budget and a cheque book, selling players that you yourselves do not want is much more difficult! It's going to be tough. I think Adam and Fletcher will more than likely stay. Afellay you'd hope would have offers from some Dutch clubs. Crouchy will have takers too but I think we'll keep him unless he pushes for the move. Cameron will want to leave, no loss. |
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Post by biglad180 on May 28, 2018 12:53:46 GMT
I would keep crouchie the rest not to bothered about
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on May 28, 2018 13:19:07 GMT
37 Peter Crouch 32 Charlie Adam 34 Darren Fletcher 34 Glenn Johnson 32 Ibrahim Affelay 35 Lee Grant 32 Geoff Cameron 32 Stephen Ireland There's a case for keeping each one of them, but not all of them. I don't see the point keeping Johnson if Bauer stays. Cameron is a useful squad player. It's the midfield where we're overloaded. I think Ireland could do really well, as could Adam. As a goalkeeper, Grant is less of an issue. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 13:22:33 GMT
Crouchy and Grant for me
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 13:26:09 GMT
I can see at least 5 of that lot leaving.
Grant and Fletcher will stay I reckon. Not sure on Adam.
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Post by GoBoks on May 28, 2018 16:19:13 GMT
Don't Google it folks, you don't know what you'll find But where are we with the aged eight, the 32+ brigade? These are their ages at the start of next season. 37 Peter Crouch 32 Charlie Adam 34 Darren Fletcher 34 Glenn Johnson 32 Ibrahim Affelay 35 Lee Grant 32 Geoff Cameron 32 Stephen Ireland I think Ireland was dispatched by text wasn't he? And Glenn Johnson is out of contract. Affelay ended the season on the naughty step didn't he, not sure if there is any coming back from there. Plainly some experience would be a good thing. What should we do? None of the above Thanks! |
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Post by robstokie on May 28, 2018 16:31:08 GMT
Don't Google it folks, you don't know what you'll find But where are we with the aged eight, the 32+ brigade? These are their ages at the start of next season. 37 Peter Crouch 32 Charlie Adam 34 Darren Fletcher 34 Glenn Johnson 32 Ibrahim Affelay 35 Lee Grant 32 Geoff Cameron 32 Stephen Ireland I think Ireland was dispatched by text wasn't he? And Glenn Johnson is out of contract. Affelay ended the season on the naughty step didn't he, not sure if there is any coming back from there. Plainly some experience would be a good thing. What should we do? Out of that lot you can discount Ireland and Johnson - they will be goners as their contracts are up. I'm not sure about Charlie - I can't remember if he got an extension start of last season? Then, realistically, we won't see Afellay or GCam in a Stoke shirt again. They will both go back to their home countries for a last pay-day before jacking it in. Also, Crouch - he will have suitors - it wouldn't surprise me if he ended up either going to one of the newly promoted clubs (I would guess Cardiff) or returned to London. The only ones who will be here next season for definite are Grant and Fletcher. |
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Post by nigerianstokie on May 28, 2018 16:46:37 GMT
37 Peter Crouch 32 Charlie Adam 34 Darren Fletcher 34 Glenn Johnson 32 Ibrahim Affelay 35 Lee Grant 32 Geoff Cameron 32 Stephen Ireland There's a case for keeping each one of them, but not all of them. I don't see the point keeping Johnson if Bauer stays. Cameron is a useful squad player. It's the midfield where we're overloaded. I think Ireland could do really well, as could Adam. As a goalkeeper, Grant is less of an issue. There is no case for Fletcher, Adam, Johnson or Afellay. Cameron you could possibly see the logic in, not great though. Ireland could be class in the Championship. Crouch is a different option but a Huddersfield/Cardiff will definitely take him. Grant as a backup is OK. |
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Post by Billybigbollox on May 28, 2018 19:20:37 GMT
I thought it was a link to Wayne Rooney’s Little black book.
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Post by mrcoke on May 28, 2018 22:15:58 GMT
37 Peter Crouch - Yes there is a case for keeping, but we need better32 Charlie Adam - No case, can't recall when he last had a good game and is a walking red card. 34 Darren Fletcher - No, started season well enough, but had a stinker of a match against Chelsea in Sept. and was rubbish for the rest of the season, legs gone.34 Glenn Johnson - No, again can't recall him having a really good game and repeatedly responsible for conceding goals32 Ibrahim Affelay - No, attitude stinks, not impressed in the odd occasions he has played.35 Lee Grant - Yes, covered well for Butland last season, excellent the season before, GKs can go on for a long time.32 Geoff Cameron - No, one of my favourite players, but since he was injured against Hull in October 2016 and out for a long spell, he has not impressed at all.32 Stephen Ireland - No, I don't believe you can be out of the game so long and still cut it. He still shows tactical awareness, sees good passes, and gets into scoring positions, but he has lost it physically and can no longer execute., but not all of them. I don't see the point keeping Johnson if Bauer stays. Cameron is a useful squad player. It's the midfield where we're overloaded. I think Ireland could do really well, as could Adam. As a goalkeeper, Grant is less of an issue. I don't think so. The Championship is a young man's league, not for has beens. |
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Post by heworksardtho on May 28, 2018 22:21:52 GMT
Century Street Hanley use to be full of them ........so I’ve been told 😇
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Post by maine on May 28, 2018 22:52:23 GMT
I WOULD have kept the last 3 plus Crouch-and just possibly Adam.
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Post by mermaidsal on May 28, 2018 23:53:10 GMT
Out of that lot I'd only keep Grant. All the others are too old, too slow, or in Ireland's case, always injured. We can look elsewhere for some slightly younger, experienced players. Ditto, subtract 5 years for a keeper so Grant gets in easy. Besides, unluckily he's had so relatively little first team action in his career for such a good keeper that he's likely to be carrying less injury damage for his age than most. I'd maybe make an exception for Crouchy too, he's proved people wrong so many times and his sheer quality on the ball when he sniffs a goal could still work in the Champ if he's up for another season. And just a fantastic attitude, that's worth its place in a dressing room even when he's old enough to be the younger players' dad. As for the rest, sorry but bye bye. |
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Post by Gods on May 29, 2018 9:11:14 GMT
Out of that lot I'd only keep Grant. All the others are too old, too slow, or in Ireland's case, always injured. We can look elsewhere for some slightly younger, experienced players. Ditto, subtract 5 years for a keeper so Grant gets in easy. Besides, unluckily he's had so relatively little first team action in his career for such a good keeper that he's likely to be carrying less injury damage for his age than most. I'd maybe make an exception for Crouchy too, he's proved people wrong so many times and his sheer quality on the ball when he sniffs a goal could still work in the Champ if he's up for another season. And just a fantastic attitude, that's worth its place in a dressing room even when he's old enough to be the younger players' dad. As for the rest, sorry but bye bye. I agree but I think somehow we will keep two of Adam, Fletcher and Cameron. Rowett will be seduced by their pedigree and nervous about going in to the season without their 'been round the block' experience. |
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Post by stokeykez on May 29, 2018 9:16:11 GMT
The pure tragedy that has occurred. Stoke have failed to make the right significant investment now for the last 3 years. Strikers approaching old age, signing old midfielders and loans of players who are going to leave us with huge holes in the squad.
When kenwyne left we never replaced him, when arnie left we never replaced him.nzonzi left we never replaced him
Instead we plugged the gaps with round pegs and square bloody holes.
An absolute shambolic shitfest of the highest proportion !!!! How the fuck has this perfect storm of shit players, retirement, shit quality, shit attitude been allowed to happen !!
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Post by stokeykez on May 29, 2018 9:22:55 GMT
Ditto, subtract 5 years for a keeper so Grant gets in easy. Besides, unluckily he's had so relatively little first team action in his career for such a good keeper that he's likely to be carrying less injury damage for his age than most. I'd maybe make an exception for Crouchy too, he's proved people wrong so many times and his sheer quality on the ball when he sniffs a goal could still work in the Champ if he's up for another season. And just a fantastic attitude, that's worth its place in a dressing room even when he's old enough to be the younger players' dad. As for the rest, sorry but bye bye. I agree but I think somehow we will keep two of Adam, Fletcher and Cameron. Rowett will be seduced by their pedigree and nervous about going in to the season without their 'been round the block' experience. Unfortunately though the ' round the block' experience does not count for anything. The last time Charlie was in the championship he was a well trimmed guy at Blackpool, fletch was still caressing the silky skills at the theatre of dreams and Cameron has never played championship football. That block doesn't bare any resemblance to the level of stamina and hard work that the championship now requires. They are too old and dont have legs in the prem never mind the brutal efl. The only one I would take a gamble would be gcam but needs to be playing a hell of a lot more than he does currently especially on his showing at West ham. |
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on May 29, 2018 9:57:17 GMT
Keep Grant & Crouch, the rest can go for me.
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