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Post by Gods on May 25, 2018 20:58:43 GMT
Anyone else watch this knockabout nonsense? It's the BBC's good-natured yet resolutely unambitious comedy offering on a Friday night. Anyway point is Vegas' on-screen family are referred to as "The Stoke Massive", he is/was a Stoke City season ticket holder, his ring tone is Delilah and so on. Written by Simon Crowther and Chris Fewtrell, any reason why they might feature the Potters in this way  |
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Post by PotterLog on May 25, 2018 21:02:56 GMT
I saw him at Middleport Pottery two year ago
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Post by essexstokey on May 25, 2018 21:02:59 GMT
Thought it was funny the prospective buyers being Derby supporters  Derby lost out again ! |
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Post by burberrybassist on May 25, 2018 21:06:37 GMT
Without watching or knowing anything about it I assumed that it may be written by a Londoncentric BBC media type and the family that support Stoke are going to be "comically" hapless and working class. Basically unconscious bias towards Stoke as a city and football club. After doing a quick Google and checking Wikipedia I don't think I'm far off.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 25, 2018 21:09:47 GMT
I'm sure I read he was writing something set in Stoke so I'm guessing this is it.
He's from St Helens isn't he?
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Post by burberrybassist on May 25, 2018 21:10:25 GMT
Ah totally stand corrected, one of the writers is from Staffs
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Post by generationex on May 25, 2018 21:13:01 GMT
Think one of the writers has a connection to staffordshire.
And stoke is media shorthand for ‘provincial’.
It hasn’t even got a premier league team (grrrr).
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Post by greenstone on May 25, 2018 21:16:39 GMT
I like how they have them Manchester accents. No effort to use our accent
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Post by essexstokey on May 25, 2018 21:31:05 GMT
I like Elaine Page as the Mum didn't know she was such a good actress
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Post by andystokey on May 25, 2018 21:33:26 GMT
Johnny Vegas is a potter.
Well clay and all that anyway.
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Post by Absolution on May 25, 2018 21:37:18 GMT
I like how they have them Manchester accents. No effort to use our accent I’d rather they didn’t. Would have just sounded false. Better to have Johnny Vegas playing himself. It’s just a good natured little program. Nothing anti-Stoke about it at all. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 25, 2018 21:43:03 GMT
I like how they have them Manchester accents. No effort to use our accent I’d rather they didn’t. Would have just sounded false. Better to have Johnny Vegas playing himself. It’s just a good natured little program. Nothing anti-Stoke about it at all. There isn't but why make the hapless thicko's Stokies but with Manchester accents. Why not make them Mancs. The only way you know they're Stokies is that they wear Stoke City badged kit and his ringtone's Deliliah. Even the folk from Derby had Manc accents. Just why? |
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Post by Absolution on May 25, 2018 21:52:44 GMT
I’d rather they didn’t. Would have just sounded false. Better to have Johnny Vegas playing himself. It’s just a good natured little program. Nothing anti-Stoke about it at all. There isn't but why make the hapless thicko's Stokies but with Manchester accents. Why not make them Mancs. The only way you know they're Stokies is that they wear Stoke City badged kit and his ringtone's Deliliah. Even the folk from Derby had Manc accents. Just why? No idea, but suspect one of the writers being local (from what I’ve seen on here) just wanted a slightly different angle from the usual predictable Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal supporting shite, but also wanted certain actors for the kind of comedy they needed, and Vegas in particular fitted the bill. The football references are very incidental and not needed at all for the plot line. From my point of view it’s not worth overthinking it. Like I said, it’s just a good natured little jaunt that’s not particularly challenging. Sometimes in a trauma filled world, that makes a welcome change. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 25, 2018 21:59:03 GMT
There isn't but why make the hapless thicko's Stokies but with Manchester accents. Why not make them Mancs. The only way you know they're Stokies is that they wear Stoke City badged kit and his ringtone's Deliliah. Even the folk from Derby had Manc accents. Just why? No idea, but suspect one of the writers being local (from what I’ve seen on here) just wanted a slightly different angle from the usual predictable Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal supporting shite, but also wanted certain actors for the kind of comedy they needed, and Vegas in particular fitted the bill. The football references are very incidental and not needed at all for the plot line. From my point of view it’s not worth overthinking it. Like I said, it’s just a good natured little jaunt that’s not particularly challenging. Sometimes in a trauma filled world, that makes a welcome change. I understand what you're saying mate but when the BBC made Poldark there weren't many Manc accents on show then. So they can do it. If they can't even be arsed to bother with the regional accents then don't write it into the script. The Stoke connection has no real relevance to the story other than they're the hapless northern dimwits in the story. They could have been from Wigan or Bolton and the actors accents would have been more accurate. |
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Post by Absolution on May 25, 2018 22:06:53 GMT
No idea, but suspect one of the writers being local (from what I’ve seen on here) just wanted a slightly different angle from the usual predictable Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal supporting shite, but also wanted certain actors for the kind of comedy they needed, and Vegas in particular fitted the bill. The football references are very incidental and not needed at all for the plot line. From my point of view it’s not worth overthinking it. Like I said, it’s just a good natured little jaunt that’s not particularly challenging. Sometimes in a trauma filled world, that makes a welcome change. I understand what you're saying mate but when the BBC made Poldark there weren't many Manc accents on show then. So they can do it. If they can't even be arsed to bother with the regional accents then don't write it into the script. The Stoke connection has no real relevance to the story other than they're the hapless northern dimwits in the story. They could have been from Wigan or Bolton and the actors accents would have been more accurate. I agree, but I suppose the difference is that Poldark would be described by the BBC (at least) as a ‘major’ drama, so there’d be a need for a degree of accuracy that’s not needed in this kind of comedy series. Having said that, I didn’t watch Poldark and I’m not sure whether the accents were accurate or not. There may be people in Cornwall thinking “Why do they all sound like they’re from Norwich?” |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 25, 2018 22:11:52 GMT
I understand what you're saying mate but when the BBC made Poldark there weren't many Manc accents on show then. So they can do it. If they can't even be arsed to bother with the regional accents then don't write it into the script. The Stoke connection has no real relevance to the story other than they're the hapless northern dimwits in the story. They could have been from Wigan or Bolton and the actors accents would have been more accurate. I agree, but I suppose the difference is that Poldark would be described by the BBC (at least) as a ‘major’ drama, so there’d be a need for a degree of accuracy that’s not needed in this kind of comedy series. Having said that, I didn’t watch Poldark and I’m not sure whether the accents were accurate or not. There may be people in Cornwall thinking “Why do they all sound like they’re from Norwich?” Yes fair point We're just a bit touchy about our accent aren't we? |
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Post by Gods on May 25, 2018 22:37:47 GMT
Thought it was funny the prospective buyers being Derby supporters Derby lost out again ! It was funny, and by chance timely, the look Vegas and his family gave the guy when he turned up in his "DC FC" sweat top |
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Post by elystokie on May 25, 2018 22:48:25 GMT
Ah totally stand corrected, one of the writers is from Staffs Definitely knows his stuff, the pregnancy test kit episode mentioned a pub and co-op close to where I was brought up and amazingly we know a Janet and Alan - couple mentioned tonight :/ |
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Post by retired1 on May 25, 2018 23:34:54 GMT
I like how they have them Manchester accents. No effort to use our accent You can't blame them seeing how awful Stoke accents are, most of the lines would have to have at least 5 "ers" and 10 "Like" in them. Try listening to locals on the radio, some make Brummies sound intelligent. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 26, 2018 1:31:04 GMT
It's as funny as watching Mark Hughes keep the Saints up
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2018 4:28:39 GMT
It's yet another TV "comedy" series that isn't in the slightest bit funny. Vegas and Co are cast as the totally stupid, hapless, cheapskate "Northern" family and the writers seem to have maximised this image with the frequent Stoke references. They're made to look even bigger losers compared to their posh southern neighbours - architect, nice car, champagne drinking wife, hot tub etc.
Hopefully it won't return for a second series.
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Post by nott1 on May 26, 2018 5:51:05 GMT
The Potters accent is very hard to replicate by outsiders thee knowst!
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Post by boothenender on May 26, 2018 6:28:08 GMT
About our accent.
I live in Doncaster, South Yorkshire.
I get called " scouser" quite regularly.
This also happens ehen go to Scotland with my job.
Bloody scouser.... it boils my piss.
You would be quite shocked to know that the vast majority of people in UK do not know where Stoke actually is.
When i tell them where it really is they still have no idea.
Tiny country lkke ours and the people have not hot a clue as to the where abouts of the Peoples Republic of Potteries.
Thick as clay springs to mind.
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Post by wagsastokie on May 26, 2018 6:39:54 GMT
About our accent. I live in Doncaster, South Yorkshire. I get called " scouser" quite regularly. This also happens ehen go to Scotland with my job. Bloody scouser.... it boils my piss. You would be quite shocked to know that the vast majority of people in UK do not know where Stoke actually is. When i tell them where it really is they still have no idea. Tiny country lkke ours and the people have not hot a clue as to the where abouts of the Peoples Republic of Potteries. Thick as clay springs to mind. Won’t comment on the accent but here in rural Norfolk when I piont out I support stoke all I tend to get is where is it For simplicity I just say between derby and Manchester but the people in charge of the city of stoke over the last 60 years have done a piss poor attempt at promoting it |
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Post by Veritas on May 26, 2018 7:14:30 GMT
It's yet another TV "comedy" series that isn't in the slightest bit funny. Vegas and Co are cast as the totally stupid, hapless, cheapskate "Northern" family and the writers seem to have maximised this image with the frequent Stoke references. They're made to look even bigger losers compared to their posh southern neighbours - architect, nice car, champagne drinking wife, hot tub etc. Hopefully it won't return for a second series. Wow I think you are reading a bit too much into this! Vegas is cast a a stupid vain man but the rest of the Stoke family are portrayed as decent folk likewise the wife in the southern family is written as vain and boorish with her husband and daughter generally ok. They haven't bothered trying to replicate the Stoke accent but as mentioned elsewhere most people could't place a stoke accent anyway, that aside I think it is moderately amusing and harmless. |
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Post by Menorca Stokie on May 26, 2018 7:23:07 GMT
My much better half is from Oxford and on occasion I listen to radio Stoke, I have to translate most of the time so simply not worth listening too. Thankfully I've lost my accent. 😂
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Post by essexstokey on May 26, 2018 7:26:42 GMT
About our accent. I live in Doncaster, South Yorkshire. I get called " scouser" quite regularly. This also happens ehen go to Scotland with my job. Bloody scouser.... it boils my piss. You would be quite shocked to know that the vast majority of people in UK do not know where Stoke actually is. When i tell them where it really is they still have no idea. Tiny country lkke ours and the people have not hot a clue as to the where abouts of the Peoples Republic of Potteries. Thick as clay springs to mind. Calm down! calm down like! |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on May 26, 2018 7:33:53 GMT
Watched one thought it was shit and why do they never employ anyone who can talk in a Stoke accent?
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Post by elystokie on May 26, 2018 8:10:51 GMT
Watched one thought it was shit and why do they never employ anyone who can talk in a Stoke accent? Probably didn't think they needed to. As someone pointed out above, most folk couldn't place the accent anyway. So they'd be pandering to half a million people (and that's if everyone in North Staffs watched it) out of around 65 million. That and it's a pretty difficult accent to mimic although Toby Jones had no problem, then again he's in a different league. |
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Post by pyrus on May 26, 2018 8:25:06 GMT
I’ve seen it a few times. It’s pretty inoffensive. It’s a classic UK formula based on a class divide (everything from The Good Life, to Not Going Out used the same basic formula). In this show an unsophisticated family from a shit town somewhere in the north (could have been anywhere, just happened to be Stoke) comes up against sophisticated socialite types from the South east, set in a holiday village in The Lake District. I think it just a platform to support Jonny Vegas doing a thing about having a chip on his shoulder brought about by an inferiority complex.
It fills half an hour, it’s vaguely entertaining. It hasn’t made me laugh out loud or given me one of those classic sitcom moments.
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Derby lost out again ! 
