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Post by vahl on May 21, 2018 18:41:49 GMT
I wont wait and see what happens and neither should anyone else, this is a golden opportunity with essentially the whole world at our feet. We've not long been bragging on here about how the Coates family are worth £6 billion quid with even more on the way now USA has legalised sports betting, we've got one of the best training setups in the country and a 30k stadium that can be filled on a minutes notice. Gary fucking Rowett mate. We already boxed ourselves in by hoping for a Moyes/Sam but we could still do as well as that, if not better. The only thing I will get a grip of is the incoming mid-table Championship side football. We don't want that, do we? It's all about which side of the coin you're seeing. You really think we could do better than Moyes or Allardyce as a championship club? I doubt they would even answer the phone if we called never mind! Especially Allardyce, why would he at his age come to a championship club who partly need rebuilding after finishing top 10 in the Premier League? He'd be crazy to, he'll just wait until someone starts panicking around December, keep them up, get laid off and have the summer off. Moyes was always going to be more likely but even still if he'd come to the championship after he's had a creditable season I'd be amazed! Someone who has a promotion to their name would have been nice. If not domestic promotion then cup wins & league wins/promotions abroad at least. There is how many people involved in football? When we go fishing for a manager we seem to cast the fucking Borrowers version of a net because it's a very tiny puddle we are fishing in. It's doesn't need to be like that imo.
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Post by mrcoke on May 21, 2018 18:46:16 GMT
Time will tell with his appointment.
I expect a lot of ambitious signings will follow.
There is nothing wrong with ambition and a "head in the clouds" approach per se, but the danger in football in keeping your eyes on a distant goal is you trip over the banana skins under your nose. Even Man City this season, generally regarded as the best team ever in English football, stumbled against Man U and Huddersfield as they got to the finishing line. Next season's West Ham isn't going to be a Man C. There is going to be massive expectation by >50,000 fans at the London Stadium each match expecting an exhibition of football, and they won't be happy losing to the likes of Burnley, Brighton, or Cardiff.
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Post by flinteastwood on May 21, 2018 19:00:02 GMT
to pay them wages they would have to continuously be in Europe every year he's there to justify that wage. unless they have a huge overhaul of players aswell this could be a massive gamble for them.
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Post by bhp on May 21, 2018 20:31:47 GMT
You really think we could do better than Moyes or Allardyce as a championship club? I doubt they would even answer the phone if we called never mind! Especially Allardyce, why would he at his age come to a championship club who partly need rebuilding after finishing top 10 in the Premier League? He'd be crazy to, he'll just wait until someone starts panicking around December, keep them up, get laid off and have the summer off. Moyes was always going to be more likely but even still if he'd come to the championship after he's had a creditable season I'd be amazed! Someone who has a promotion to their name would have been nice. If not domestic promotion then cup wins & league wins/promotions abroad at least. There is how many people involved in football? When we go fishing for a manager we seem to cast the fucking Borrowers version of a net because it's a very tiny puddle we are fishing in. It's doesn't need to be like that imo. I'm totally for a manager who's slightly under the radar for what he's achieved and giving him an apportunity but if the appointment of Rowett does happen there are more positives then negatives. He's young, good record wherever he's been as a manger there are far worse mangers to appoint. If the disadvantage is bad football but gets us in the play offs next May then I'm more than happy with that.
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Post by ed5993 on May 21, 2018 21:10:33 GMT
Some would call it ambition. I would call it batshit mental...... Sometimes it's a fine line.... But that's firmly on the batshit mental side of it
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Post by vahl on May 21, 2018 21:18:52 GMT
Someone who has a promotion to their name would have been nice. If not domestic promotion then cup wins & league wins/promotions abroad at least. There is how many people involved in football? When we go fishing for a manager we seem to cast the fucking Borrowers version of a net because it's a very tiny puddle we are fishing in. It's doesn't need to be like that imo. I'm totally for a manager who's slightly under the radar for what he's achieved and giving him an apportunity but if the appointment of Rowett does happen there are more positives then negatives. He's young, good record wherever he's been as a manger there are far worse mangers to appoint. If the disadvantage is bad football but gets us in the play offs next May then I'm more than happy with that. Fair enough, I can respect what you say. Let's hope he turns out to be a good appointment. I don't think we should be aiming for the playoffs though, we should be aiming for automatic promotion by default. The play-offs are just too random. We are also in a position (through no fault of our own either) where we can essentially buy our way out, which means expectations are higher than we've had before in this league imo.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 21, 2018 21:22:26 GMT
Reported that Huddersfield are on the verge of doubling Wagner's wages to £100,000 a week. Just over a year ago, unthinkable a HTFC manager would be getting this sort of money. Wagner is currently on £2.5 million a year and that wage is now about to be increased to £5 million a year? You're surely mistaken chap.
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Post by heworksardtho on May 21, 2018 21:47:42 GMT
Reported that Huddersfield are on the verge of doubling Wagner's wages to £100,000 a week. Just over a year ago, unthinkable a HTFC manager would be getting this sort of money. Wagner is currently on £2.5 million a year and that wage is now about to be increased to £5 million a year? You're surely mistaken chap. I suppose with keeping them in the prem it’s peanuts for them with the money they get off sky
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 21, 2018 21:59:33 GMT
Wagner is currently on £2.5 million a year and that wage is now about to be increased to £5 million a year? You're surely mistaken chap. I suppose with keeping them in the prem it’s peanuts for them with the money they get off sky It's not peanuts at all. Hughes was on £900k here and we were a long established Prem club.
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Post by heworksardtho on May 21, 2018 22:18:21 GMT
I suppose with keeping them in the prem it’s peanuts for them with the money they get off sky It's not peanuts at all. Hughes was on £900k here and we were a long established Prem club. It is when they’ve earned another 100 million off sky for another season
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 21, 2018 22:33:22 GMT
It's not peanuts at all. Hughes was on £900k here and we were a long established Prem club. It is when they’ve earned another 100 million off sky for another season You don't think they have plenty of other expenses to budget for as well? Huddersfield paying their manager £5 million per season, is just as bonkers (if not more) as West Ham paying £10 million for theirs.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on May 21, 2018 22:49:14 GMT
I suppose with keeping them in the prem it’s peanuts for them with the money they get off sky It's not peanuts at all. Hughes was on £900k here and we were a long established Prem club. Are you sure about that 900k figure Paul, I've seen it bandied about a bit but could never find evidence for it, surely he was on more than that it seems exceptionally low?
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Post by heworksardtho on May 21, 2018 22:58:22 GMT
It is when they’ve earned another 100 million off sky for another season You don't think they have plenty of other expenses to budget for as well? Huddersfield paying their manager £5 million per season, is just as bonkers (if not more) as West Ham paying £10 million for theirs. It’s not my concern how much they pay him so I don’t give two fucks really
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 21, 2018 23:55:32 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 21, 2018 23:56:28 GMT
You don't think they have plenty of other expenses to budget for as well? Huddersfield paying their manager £5 million per season, is just as bonkers (if not more) as West Ham paying £10 million for theirs. It’s not my concern how much they pay him so I don’t give two fucks really Odd that you've spent the last hour posting about that very topic then ...
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Post by heworksardtho on May 22, 2018 5:25:39 GMT
It’s not my concern how much they pay him so I don’t give two fucks really Odd that you've spent the last hour posting about that very topic then ... It’s called free speech unless unless your the oatcake police and everything has to be run past you first , you need to get out more
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Post by bathstoke on May 22, 2018 7:25:21 GMT
10m per year ! Jesus Christ , that’s more than 95% of the footballers in the league as well. In terms of players, they would need to realistically spend 100m + to challenge for the 5-7 places , 200m for top 4. Can’t see it ! I suppose that it's easy for West Ham to spend taxpayers money. It's like another Carillium. State sponsored capitalism at its worst
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Post by terryconroysmagic on May 22, 2018 7:31:25 GMT
Tnx, link not working for me but I'll take your word for it
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 22, 2018 7:37:06 GMT
Odd that you've spent the last hour posting about that very topic then ... It’s called free speech unless unless your the oatcake police and everything has to be run past you first , you need to get out more Nobody is preventing you speaking are they?
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 22, 2018 7:40:31 GMT
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Post by geoff321 on May 22, 2018 7:50:05 GMT
Seems to be a competent manager, three play offs in 6 years, although failed in all three!
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Post by mattface on May 22, 2018 8:00:39 GMT
Some would call it ambition. I would call it batshit mental...... At £10m so much this
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 22, 2018 18:25:29 GMT
Good to see him back in the PL. Always liked him.Going to be the third highest manager in the league.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on May 22, 2018 18:26:33 GMT
Good manager looks like he's died three times though.
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 22, 2018 19:11:32 GMT
The good think for West Ham unlike ourselves is that they can make mistake after mistake and write the previous season off and take big losses because they have the OS and next to no running costs and money from selling the Boleyn.
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Post by davejohnno1 on May 22, 2018 21:10:43 GMT
West ham fan in our hotel has delighted in telling me and my little one that butland and shaqiri will be signing for west ham.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 21:14:57 GMT
He'll do nothing. Underachieved at Man City after a cracking first season, pretty uninspiring choice in my opinion.....
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Post by efc on May 22, 2018 22:47:11 GMT
Seems to be winding down his career now, to go from the likes of Real Madrid and Man City to China and West Ham would concern me.
The problem with West Ham they dont have the funds to really push on and have to sign over the hill players on big wages to try justify to the fans that they mean business.
The club has no direction, from moving to that stadium that isnt a football ground to signing the likes of Zabaletta, Evra, Fonte and now Pellegrini to appease the fans is a recipe for disaster imo.
I argued that with an Evertonian on Twitter who was comparing us and them and moaning, I would rather an up and coming ambitious (yet risky) manager in Marco Silva, appointing Marcel Brands as DOF and preparing to move to a 55k stadium that will actually be a proper football ground than the direction West Ham seem to be going in.
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Post by mickstupp on May 22, 2018 23:07:49 GMT
Considering the unlimited funds at his disposal, I thought he was dreadful at Manchester City.
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