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Post by StoneSCFC on May 22, 2018 4:59:45 GMT
Just wondering if any players who may have been agitating for a transfer will now stay due to Rowetts (impending) appointment. Or will they not care?
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Post by werrington on May 22, 2018 5:07:02 GMT
Just wondering if any players who may have been agitating for a transfer will now stay due to Rowetts (impending) appointment. Or will they not care? If you are talking about Butland Shaqiri Allen etc then no they won’t stay as now we are off the gravy train the money for transfers and team building needs to come from somewhere so the club will have no alternative That post is a bit harsh tbh as all have cared and I’ve heard none agitate for a transfer
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 5:13:03 GMT
I think the players that will be inspired to stay are going be the ones that can't get fixed up in a higher league or get offered more money by moving elsewhere.
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Post by StoneSCFC on May 22, 2018 5:13:41 GMT
Just wondering if any players who may have been agitating for a transfer will now stay due to Rowetts (impending) appointment. Or will they not care? If you are talking about Butland Shaqiri Allen etc then no they won’t stay as now we are off the gravy train the money for transfers and team building needs to come from somewhere so the club will have no alternative That post is a bit harsh tbh as all have cared and I’ve heard none agitate for a transfer I agree I may have worded my original post a bit carelessly. I meant the players who we expect to leave (as you have said).
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Post by burberrybassist on May 22, 2018 5:21:01 GMT
I'd like to think that a lot of the squad would wait to see what Rowett has to say about his plans and vision for the club and see if they buy into what he wants. Also I can see a few of the fringe players or older crew (the likes of Crouch and Adam) will want to hear how Gary see's their role at the club before making any decisions.
I do believe that our squad do love the club and are genuinely gutted about what has happened, and I'd like to think that more than a few of them would be wanting to stay to help put things right.
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Post by werrington on May 22, 2018 5:54:57 GMT
I'd like to think that a lot of the squad would wait to see what Rowett has to say about his plans and vision for the club and see if they buy into what he wants. Also I can see a few of the fringe players or older crew (the likes of Crouch and Adam) will want to hear how Gary see's their role at the club before making any decisions. I do believe that our squad do love the club and are genuinely gutted about what has happened, and I'd like to think that more than a few of them would be wanting to stay to help put things right. So who funds the rebuild ?
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Post by Linx on May 22, 2018 6:02:11 GMT
I'd like to think that a lot of the squad would wait to see what Rowett has to say about his plans and vision for the club and see if they buy into what he wants. Also I can see a few of the fringe players or older crew (the likes of Crouch and Adam) will want to hear how Gary see's their role at the club before making any decisions. I do believe that our squad do love the club and are genuinely gutted about what has happened, and I'd like to think that more than a few of them would be wanting to stay to help put things right. So who funds the rebuild ? £43m in parachute payments plus around £60m from selling Butland, Shaqiri and Allen. I know it’s not as simple as that, but most clubs around us won’t have that kind of dosh. It’s a start, at least.
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Post by werrington on May 22, 2018 6:07:03 GMT
So who funds the rebuild ? £43m in parachute payments plus around £60m from selling Butland, Shaqiri and Allen. I know it’s not as simple as that, but most clubs around us won’t have that kind of dosh. It’s a start, at least. The premiership money has now gone, the parachute payments are to keep the club running whilst it cuts it cloth according ...the academy, players wages, general staff wages etc etc need paying and that’s what parachute payments are for Not transfers
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Post by onyourbonce on May 22, 2018 6:17:33 GMT
£43m in parachute payments plus around £60m from selling Butland, Shaqiri and Allen. I know it’s not as simple as that, but most clubs around us won’t have that kind of dosh. It’s a start, at least. The premiership money has now gone, the parachute payments are to keep the club running whilst it cuts it cloth according ...the academy, players wages, general staff wages etc etc need paying and that’s what parachute payments are for Not transfers I’m sure the multi billionaire owners who have contributed largely to the fuck up culminating in relegation can dig some money from somewhere to fund a squad rebuild if needs be. Just saying
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Post by stokeykez on May 22, 2018 6:20:52 GMT
I think joe will stay.
Big question is will bojan be fitting into to a Gary rowett style of play.
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on May 22, 2018 6:37:01 GMT
I'd like to think that a lot of the squad would wait to see what Rowett has to say about his plans and vision for the club and see if they buy into what he wants. Also I can see a few of the fringe players or older crew (the likes of Crouch and Adam) will want to hear how Gary see's their role at the club before making any decisions. I do believe that our squad do love the club and are genuinely gutted about what has happened, and I'd like to think that more than a few of them would be wanting to stay to help put things right. So who funds the rebuild ? Coates. And the parachute payments. SGS
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Post by werrington on May 22, 2018 6:39:38 GMT
The premiership money has now gone, the parachute payments are to keep the club running whilst it cuts it cloth according ...the academy, players wages, general staff wages etc etc need paying and that’s what parachute payments are for Not transfers I’m sure the multi billionaire owners who have contributed largely to the fuck up culminating in relegation can dig some money from somewhere to fund a squad rebuild if needs be. Just saying They gave you 10 years of premiership football with the first 5 funded entirely by them Are you saying they should now fund it again with their own cash ? Wow
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Post by callas12 on May 22, 2018 6:46:44 GMT
My Rowett informer whose a Blues fan says Rowett likes his no nonsense British players. Think Crouch will definitely stay, Allen be a bonus, Shaqiri defo gone I'd say. But too be fair that list could apply to any potential new manager.
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Post by lordb on May 22, 2018 6:48:14 GMT
If we start spending that will impress the players
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on May 22, 2018 6:53:21 GMT
I can't see us spending too much. We still need to stick to the fair play rules and we don't have the premier league money coming in anymore. Even if Coates invested loads of money, we'd have to be guaranteed promotion first season or we could end up with bigger issues.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 6:54:30 GMT
If we start spending that will impress the players Agreed. If Rowett can bring in one or two quality players early on in the window, other players may start to consider staying is an option. I imagine most players are willing to give any gaffer a chance but if they think they're going to get stuck playing alongside journeymen past their sell-by-date and unproven youngsters, they'll surely look to move on because the prospect of bouncing straight back up would be increasingly unlikely.
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Post by RAF on May 22, 2018 6:57:04 GMT
I’m sure the multi billionaire owners who have contributed largely to the fuck up culminating in relegation can dig some money from somewhere to fund a squad rebuild if needs be. Just saying They gave you 10 years of premiership football with the first 5 funded entirely by them Are you saying they should now fund it again with their own cash ? Wow Isn't that what most owners do Wezza? Self sufficiency is bollocks and has been proved so. H
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Post by werrington on May 22, 2018 7:00:45 GMT
They gave you 10 years of premiership football with the first 5 funded entirely by them Are you saying they should now fund it again with their own cash ? Wow Isn't that what most owners do Wezza? Self sufficiency is bollocks and has been proved so. H To a certain extent yeah mate I’d say 5 years of doing it is not up be sniffed at...many owners would take relegation as a massive cost cutter and purse strings pulled but they’ve already promised major rebuilding They can’t win mate
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Post by Billy the kid on May 22, 2018 7:09:19 GMT
It depends on when the parachute payments come in to force. Is it before the season (and if so how do they predict the merit payment element?) Or is it after the season? Or in installements?
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Post by alster on May 22, 2018 7:14:22 GMT
The premiership money has now gone, the parachute payments are to keep the club running whilst it cuts it cloth according ...the academy, players wages, general staff wages etc etc need paying and that’s what parachute payments are for Not transfers I’m sure the multi billionaire owners who have contributed largely to the fuck up culminating in relegation can dig some money from somewhere to fund a squad rebuild if needs be. Just saying Sure they could, pretty certain they won't.
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Post by RAF on May 22, 2018 7:27:34 GMT
Isn't that what most owners do Wezza? Self sufficiency is bollocks and has been proved so. H To a certain extent yeah mate I’d say 5 years of going it is not up be sniffed at...many owners would take relegation as a massive cost cutter and purse strings pulled but they’ve already promised major rebuilding They can’t win mate I think people are rightly sceptical especially as Scholes and Cartwright seem to be untouchable even after that massive fuck up. And to cap it all you've got a local journo quite clearly tapped up by the club to do some firefighting on Cartwrights behalf and they fuck that up with lies and disinformation. H
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Post by baltipiesmuggler on May 22, 2018 7:31:02 GMT
As has been said already, I think we can simply assume Butland and Shaq are gone.
Don't know about the others - on face value it seems to me like GR might be enough to convince Allen, but if the likes of West Ham slap £25m on the table - that's going to be hard for club or player to turn down.
Badou is an odd one - talk of Galatasary, but surely they're not going to be stumping up £15m+???
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Post by greystokie on May 22, 2018 7:37:30 GMT
I think the majority of players want to play at the highest level. If they can get a transfer to a Premier League club then they will take it. Their agents will encourage them to do so because they will benefit from a percentage of the transfer fees.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 7:37:46 GMT
The premiership money has now gone, the parachute payments are to keep the club running whilst it cuts it cloth according ...the academy, players wages, general staff wages etc etc need paying and that’s what parachute payments are for Not transfers I’m sure the multi billionaire owners who have contributed largely to the fuck up culminating in relegation can dig some money from somewhere to fund a squad rebuild if needs be. Just saying I agree. Cutting back with cheap replacements is what’s got us into the championship. People under estimate the effect on team morale too.
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Post by jarvinski on May 22, 2018 7:38:43 GMT
We don’t want 90% of them
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 7:41:29 GMT
We don’t want 90% of them Unfortunately it's the other 10% that will be in demand and most likely to leave.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 7:46:58 GMT
I’m sure the multi billionaire owners who have contributed largely to the fuck up culminating in relegation can dig some money from somewhere to fund a squad rebuild if needs be. Just saying They gave you 10 years of premiership football with the first 5 funded entirely by them Are you saying they should now fund it again with their own cash ? Wow They may have funded it but the club have been a great tool for them to build Thier own business. The club may show a debt but thier stock as risen through the roof. It will be interesting to see how bet365 is effected being out of the PREM.
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Post by Block 22 on May 22, 2018 7:48:51 GMT
I’m sure the multi billionaire owners who have contributed largely to the fuck up culminating in relegation can dig some money from somewhere to fund a squad rebuild if needs be. Just saying They gave you 10 years of premiership football with the first 5 funded entirely by them Are you saying they should now fund it again with their own cash ? Wow If you take into account the TV money and the sale of Arnie. TV money alone probably covers our transfers whilst we were in the top flight.
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Post by Block 22 on May 22, 2018 7:52:25 GMT
They gave you 10 years of premiership football with the first 5 funded entirely by them Are you saying they should now fund it again with their own cash ? Wow If you take into account the TV money and the sale of Arnie. TV money alone probably covers our transfers whilst we were in the top flight. I actually take that back because it’s so far from the truth
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Post by wagsastokie on May 22, 2018 8:00:17 GMT
There is only one thing that inspires the modern footballer that is money pay them more than anyone else will and they will stay
What I can’t understand is why people are worried who’s stopping or not Half the squad showed as much fight in the battle to beat the drop as a group of pacifist’s in the trenches
The shaq’s of this world will be off at the drop of another twenty pound note and Stand there with a mardarse pose on someone else’s wing
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