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Post by george2again on May 18, 2018 16:49:20 GMT
I have to say we had the worst forward line in premiership history this season. Crouch too old, Diouf hapless, Cambell out of his depth, Choupa, injured or inconsistant and Shaq playing out of his best position (10) and with no one to pass too. We need pace and strengthin these positions something we have never had while in the prem (Fuller aside) and now have the chance to make a big impact. Can see all of our forward line leaving and we could get much better in the league we will be playing in next year.
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Post by Absolution on May 18, 2018 16:54:54 GMT
Hope we can keep and get the best out of Choupo. Think he could be a real asset for us next season.
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Post by bolders on May 18, 2018 16:57:53 GMT
Hope we can keep and get the best out of Choupo. Think he could be a real asset for us next season. That all depends on if he can be arsed, you could see he could play but never wanted to do anything strenuous |
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Post by stokie23 on May 18, 2018 16:59:53 GMT
Seems like, aside from Zouma and Wimmer (hopefully) we won’t loose any defenders so really need to prioritise the forward players in this window!
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Post by Absolution on May 18, 2018 17:04:55 GMT
Hope we can keep and get the best out of Choupo. Think he could be a real asset for us next season. That all depends on if he can be arsed, you could see he could play but never wanted to do anything strenuous I'm not sure he was all that lazy, and the whole place seems to have been a basket case that had been allowed to fester anyway. No excuses if he wasn't putting a shift in, but hopefully a new boss and a more disciplined regime might see us get the best out of him. I could honestly see him doing for us next season what Arnie did for West Ham this season. |
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Post by Gods on May 18, 2018 17:08:33 GMT
I think the hope was that Jese would be the man in the absence of a big permanent signing.
Sparky was at pains to call him an 'elite' player after his home debut winner against Arsenal. But sadly he didn't really feature again until the Brighton/Adam penalty fiasco 6 months later.
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Post by george2again on May 18, 2018 17:21:56 GMT
Hope we can keep and get the best out of Choupo. Think he could be a real asset for us next season. That all depends on if he can be arsed, you could see he could play but never wanted to do anything strenuous Put more effort into his instagrams with Kurt Zouma than on the pitch. Hes not quite a wide man or a forward so perhaps he would make a decent no 10? |
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Post by bolders on May 18, 2018 17:27:17 GMT
That all depends on if he can be arsed, you could see he could play but never wanted to do anything strenuous Put more effort into his instagrams with Kurt Zouma than on the pitch. Hes not quite a wide man or a forward so perhaps he would make a decent no 10? He is an inverted forward isnt he |
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Post by heworksardtho on May 18, 2018 17:38:04 GMT
If Moyes or Big Sam gets the job , cheapo motel , Sadio etc will be out of the door quicker than you can say relegation
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Post by Veritas on May 18, 2018 18:00:44 GMT
If Moyes or Big Sam gets the job , cheapo motel , Sadio etc will be out of the door quicker than you can say relegation Unfortunately Saido is unlikely to be going anywhere, who in their right mind would want him? |
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Post by tony1234 on May 18, 2018 22:10:59 GMT
If Moyes or Big Sam gets the job , cheapo motel , Sadio etc will be out of the door quicker than you can say relegation Unfortunately Saido is unlikely to be going anywhere, who in their right mind would want him? Saido has occupied more hrs of my mind than he should... The only hope is to genuinely exclude him from everything. Tell him he will never play or train again at Stoke. Just, to go away. (Or, he can accept Stoke's offer of £1m to end his contract here and now and they will help him find a new club) The hope is that the madness sets in and he realises that if he doesn't do something constructive with his life, he will start snorting again. Can't have that. Takes the offer, joins Bury, Nathan Delefonsu style. Or, he does start snorting, and Stoke sack him for gross misconduct. |
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Post by thegift on May 18, 2018 22:12:12 GMT
That all depends on if he can be arsed, you could see he could play but never wanted to do anything strenuous I'm not sure he was all that lazy, and the whole place seems to have been a basket case that had been allowed to fester anyway. No excuses if he wasn't putting a shift in, but hopefully a new boss and a more disciplined regime might see us get the best out of him. I could honestly see him doing for us next season what Arnie did for West Ham this season. theres a reason we sold arnie for £25M and got choupo on a free |
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Post by george2again on May 18, 2018 22:14:27 GMT
hopefully he will do something stupid in the next three weeks , all over tabloids and we have grounds to sack him. Daft thing is he probably will.
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Post by chamberlain on May 18, 2018 22:19:25 GMT
That all depends on if he can be arsed, you could see he could play but never wanted to do anything strenuous I'm not sure he was all that lazy, and the whole place seems to have been a basket case that had been allowed to fester anyway. No excuses if he wasn't putting a shift in, but hopefully a new boss and a more disciplined regime might see us get the best out of him. I could honestly see him doing for us next season what Arnie did for West Ham this season. He’s not anywhere near Arnies level |
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Post by Absolution on May 18, 2018 22:21:50 GMT
I'm not sure he was all that lazy, and the whole place seems to have been a basket case that had been allowed to fester anyway. No excuses if he wasn't putting a shift in, but hopefully a new boss and a more disciplined regime might see us get the best out of him. I could honestly see him doing for us next season what Arnie did for West Ham this season. theres a reason we sold arnie for £25M and got choupo on a free We got Choupo on a free because he was out of contract. All that's irrelevant to the point I was making anyway. Choupo's not Arnie, but then again, the Championship isn't the Premier League. I think Choupo could be a big player for us next season. To put it in terms you might just go for, imagine how good he could be with Pulis' man management skills getting the best out of him. |
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Post by Absolution on May 18, 2018 22:22:29 GMT
I'm not sure he was all that lazy, and the whole place seems to have been a basket case that had been allowed to fester anyway. No excuses if he wasn't putting a shift in, but hopefully a new boss and a more disciplined regime might see us get the best out of him. I could honestly see him doing for us next season what Arnie did for West Ham this season. He’s not anywhere near Arnies level Did I say he was? |
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Post by thegift on May 18, 2018 22:22:53 GMT
theres a reason we sold arnie for £25M and got choupo on a free We got Choupo on a free because he was out of contract. All that's irrelevant to the point I was making anyway. Choupo's not Arnie, but then again, the Championship isn't the Premier League. I think Choupo could be a big player for us next season. To put it in terms you might just go for, imagine how good he could be with Pulis' man management skills getting the best out of him. Pulis couldn't get air out a flat tyre unfortunately. |
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Post by chamberlain on May 18, 2018 22:25:12 GMT
He’s not anywhere near Arnies level Did I say he was? What did you mean then when you said Choupo could do for us next season what Arnie did for West Ham this season ? |
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Post by Absolution on May 18, 2018 22:30:29 GMT
What did you mean then when you said Choupo could do for us next season what Arnie did for West Ham this season ? Arnie did his stuff in the Prem. I think Choupo could score us a similar amount of goals and be as influential for us next season, but in the Championship. Think of players like Gayle at Newcastle who look ordinary in the Prem but can rip it up in the Championship. |
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Post by Absolution on May 18, 2018 22:32:50 GMT
We got Choupo on a free because he was out of contract. All that's irrelevant to the point I was making anyway. Choupo's not Arnie, but then again, the Championship isn't the Premier League. I think Choupo could be a big player for us next season. To put it in terms you might just go for, imagine how good he could be with Pulis' man management skills getting the best out of him. Pulis couldn't get air out a flat tyre unfortunately. Even supporters who don't like him can see he's got talent. His stats in a shit team that was falling apart are OK. In a decent team with a decent manager we could have a real player on our hands, certainly in the Championship anyway. |
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Post by thegift on May 18, 2018 22:33:32 GMT
Pulis couldn't get air out a flat tyre unfortunately. Even supporters who don't like him can see he's got talent. His stats in a shit team that was falling apart are OK. In a decent team with a decent manager we could have a real player on our hands, certainly in the Championship anyway. He puts in fuck all effort and expects to mope around the pitch. Fuck him off |
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Post by Absolution on May 18, 2018 22:35:19 GMT
Even supporters who don't like him can see he's got talent. His stats in a shit team that was falling apart are OK. In a decent team with a decent manager we could have a real player on our hands, certainly in the Championship anyway. He puts in fuck all effort and expects to mope around the pitch. Fuck him off I completely disagree, but I'm thinking this debate's reached it's natural conclusion. |
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Post by musik on May 19, 2018 14:00:06 GMT
Many new players needed.
Probably OUT:
Butland
Zouma
Stafylidis
Martins-Indi
Wimmer
Cameron
Allen
Shaqiri
Sobhi
Fletcher
Adam
Bojan
Imbula
Ndiaye
Choupo-Moting
Diouf
Jesé
Possible STAYS:
Grant
Haugaard
Shawcross
Bauer
Pieters
Edwards
Tymon
Souttar
Verlinden
Ireland
Sörensen
Ngoy
Campbell
Crouch
Berahino
Cheers!
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Post by superheroantonius on May 19, 2018 14:42:55 GMT
Nail on head
Any manager is only as good as his players
We need a new manager and a new srikeforce
A new manager only, changes very little
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Post by knockabout84 on May 19, 2018 15:42:52 GMT
We got Choupo on a free because he was out of contract. All that's irrelevant to the point I was making anyway. Choupo's not Arnie, but then again, the Championship isn't the Premier League. I think Choupo could be a big player for us next season. To put it in terms you might just go for, imagine how good he could be with Pulis' man management skills getting the best out of him. Pulis couldn't get air out a flat tyre unfortunately. You are aware that flat tyres are usually flat because there's very little or no air in them right? :-P |
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Post by thegift on May 19, 2018 17:02:50 GMT
Pulis couldn't get air out a flat tyre unfortunately. You are aware that flat tyres are usually flat because there's very little or no air in them right? :-P Wooooosh, straight over your head |
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on May 19, 2018 19:29:46 GMT
Try front 11
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Post by wagsastokie on May 20, 2018 7:21:26 GMT
Maybe it’s just me but I’m getting pissed off with all this inverted wingers/strikers false number 10s ECT
can’t we just sign two fast wingers who can beat a man on the outside and don’t suffer a draculesqe dislike of crosses
A big strong powerful striker who can head and a nippy small striker to take the knockdown
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 20, 2018 7:31:32 GMT
Hope we can keep and get the best out of Choupo. Think he could be a real asset for us next season. I commented another thread that if all opposing players promised not to get to close or tackle him he could be our saviour. Don’t think it’ll happen though  |
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