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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 14, 2018 22:11:00 GMT
There's a minority of ignorant fans at every club, however, we seem to have a majority of them. Don't be silly. What's silly about it? I won't sing songs about another players injury as that's incredibly low. Even if the media portray the incident in a different light, I'm still not going to start abusing Aaron for it.
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Post by 1982stokie on May 14, 2018 22:24:07 GMT
What's silly about it? I won't sing songs about another players injury as that's incredibly low. Even if the media portray the incident in a different light, I'm still not going to start abusing Aaron for it. The Aaron Ramsey walks with a limp is maybe in a bit of bad taste but not really offensive in my opinion, however the Ryan Shawcross we wish you were dead chant those classy types at Arsenal sing is a tad worse again it only my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 22:27:31 GMT
What's silly about it? I won't sing songs about another players injury as that's incredibly low. Even if the media portray the incident in a different light, I'm still not going to start abusing Aaron for it. Aaron 🤮
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Post by StatesideStokie on May 14, 2018 23:50:22 GMT
So I’m “utter scum” for not being offended by a few chants towards a multi-millionaire footballer who has made a full recovery from an injury that occurred years ago? Wind yer neck in, kiddo. What has money got to do with this? Are you seriously that thick? This is everything what's wrong and all the thugs that agree with you. He suffered a horrific injury and you think it's okay to make fun of it because "it doesn't phase me" Get a brain you thug. So we went from “scumbag”’ to “thug” in the space of a couple of posts because you don’t agree with my opinion? I think you might want to think about your own attitude rather than playing the big man and handing out insults. This internet malarkey must have saved the likes of you a lifetime of good hidings.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 15, 2018 1:55:57 GMT
What has money got to do with this? Are you seriously that thick? This is everything what's wrong and all the thugs that agree with you. He suffered a horrific injury and you think it's okay to make fun of it because "it doesn't phase me" Get a brain you thug. So we went from “scumbag”’ to “thug” in the space of a couple of posts because you don’t agree with my opinion? I think you might want to think about your own attitude rather than playing the big man and handing out insults. This internet malarkey must have saved the likes of you a lifetime of good hidings. "Opinion". You're mocking someone who suffered a horrific injury that could've hindered or ended his career. And it's all okay to you because "opinion innit" you're just ignorant and coming across as utter scum. I'm not playing the big man I'd tell you this to your face like I have with many other Stoke fans.
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Post by StatesideStokie on May 15, 2018 3:00:27 GMT
So we went from “scumbag”’ to “thug” in the space of a couple of posts because you don’t agree with my opinion? I think you might want to think about your own attitude rather than playing the big man and handing out insults. This internet malarkey must have saved the likes of you a lifetime of good hidings. "Opinion". You're mocking someone who suffered a horrific injury that could've hindered or ended his career. And it's all okay to you because "opinion innit" you're just ignorant and coming across as utter scum. I'm not playing the big man I'd tell you this to your face like I have with many other Stoke fans. Self-righteous bollocks. I’ll leave it at that.
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Post by woodstein on May 15, 2018 5:34:05 GMT
If Shawcross and Stoke City hadn't been crucified by the media as if it was deliberate harm them Stoke fans wouldn't have reacted that way. It was a broken leg anyway, a fairly common injury, nothing life threatening. Nah nothing life threatening so let's take the piss out of the poor lad every time we play them to show how classy we are. If your reaction is to insult Ramsay who did nothing wrong because of how the media portray Shawcross then there's something wrong in your head. It wasn't my personal reaction. I was simply stating that folk get peeved with how media (I didn't mention Ramsey himself) portrayed the event. I didn't condone it but can see why it came about.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on May 15, 2018 14:21:01 GMT
What else was there to say about us? I mean on the last day the likes of Liverpool, Chelsea, Newcastle, Tottenham, Swansea, Huddersfield, Arsenal, Man City, etc were bound to get more coverage.
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Post by philb on May 15, 2018 14:32:05 GMT
What’s Aaron Ramsey got to do with anything?
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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 15, 2018 16:17:34 GMT
Nah nothing life threatening so let's take the piss out of the poor lad every time we play them to show how classy we are. If your reaction is to insult Ramsay who did nothing wrong because of how the media portray Shawcross then there's something wrong in your head. It wasn't my personal reaction. I was simply stating that folk get peeved with how media (I didn't mention Ramsey himself) portrayed the event. I didn't condone it but can see why it came about. I can see why it came about as well. When you put yourself in the mind of an ignorant scumbag.
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Post by bloody56 on May 15, 2018 16:26:21 GMT
What season did we beat Manu at Old Trafford and the Granada football show was supposed to be showing at least 15 minutes of highlights, but had to cut it down to 2 minutes, because we were all over them. A Crewe business man had paid for adverts before, after and during the break in the middle, because everyone in the potteries could receive Granada. He complained and asked for his money back. The program producers were given a rollicking..
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Post by RAF on May 15, 2018 16:26:35 GMT
If Shawcross and Stoke City hadn't been crucified by the media as if it was deliberate harm them Stoke fans wouldn't have reacted that way. It was a broken leg anyway, a fairly common injury, nothing life threatening. Nah nothing life threatening so let's take the piss out of the poor lad every time we play them to show how classy we are. If your reaction is to insult Ramsay who did nothing wrong because of how the media portray Shawcross then there's something wrong in your head. Did nothing wrong? Refused to answer any of Ryans calls, never acknowledged any apology from Ryan, got right behind his cheese eating surrender monkey manager with our rugby/thug image by saying that it was his opinion that Shawcrosss wanted to make him feel the challenge but you could tell by his tone he was intimating it was a tackle designed to cause him harm. Calcium deficient prick. H
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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 15, 2018 16:38:42 GMT
Nah nothing life threatening so let's take the piss out of the poor lad every time we play them to show how classy we are. If your reaction is to insult Ramsay who did nothing wrong because of how the media portray Shawcross then there's something wrong in your head. Did nothing wrong? Refused to answer any of Ryans calls, never acknowledged any apology from Ryan, got right behind his cheese eating surrender monkey manager with our rugby/thug image by saying that it was his opinion that Shawcrosss wanted to make him feel the challenge but you could tell by his tone he was intimating it was a tackle designed to cause him harm. Calcium deficient prick. H He doesn't have to answer his calls. They're both professionals, broken legs happen, we get on with it. Fair enough, Ryan apologizes, he doesn't need a response. But noooo we don't get our precious response so we will just abuse the poor guy for the rest of his career. Stoke fans showing their true insecurities and thuggish attitude.
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Post by RAF on May 15, 2018 16:42:11 GMT
Did nothing wrong? Refused to answer any of Ryans calls, never acknowledged any apology from Ryan, got right behind his cheese eating surrender monkey manager with our rugby/thug image by saying that it was his opinion that Shawcrosss wanted to make him feel the challenge but you could tell by his tone he was intimating it was a tackle designed to cause him harm. Calcium deficient prick. H He doesn't have to answer his calls. They're both professionals, broken legs happen, we get on with it. Fair enough, Ryan apologizes, he doesn't need a response. But noooo we don't get our precious response so we will just abuse the poor guy for the rest of his career. Stoke fans showing their true insecurities and thuggish attitude. If he had been professional and kept his gob shut I could understand it. Everything he said, did and didn't do was to undermine our Captain and our club. If you can't see that and then understand why some reacted the way they did then quite frankly you are a lost cause. H
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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 15, 2018 16:46:50 GMT
He doesn't have to answer his calls. They're both professionals, broken legs happen, we get on with it. Fair enough, Ryan apologizes, he doesn't need a response. But noooo we don't get our precious response so we will just abuse the poor guy for the rest of his career. Stoke fans showing their true insecurities and thuggish attitude. If he had been professional and kept his gob shut I could understand it. Everything he said, did and didn't do was to undermine our Captain and our club. If you can't see that and then understand why some reacted the way they did then quite frankly you are a lost cause. H He didn't do anything. He just didn't respond to Ryan. He moved on and props to him for that. Same with Ryan. It's just Stoke fans think this is now a given right to start hurling abuse at him in the worst possible way. I mean how low do people have to be to mock an injury like that. I don't feel it's fair on Ryan either, but I guess people who sing those songs aren't the most intelligent human beings on the planet. He didn't undermine our captain or our club. We did that ourselves.
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Post by RAF on May 15, 2018 16:52:33 GMT
If he had been professional and kept his gob shut I could understand it. Everything he said, did and didn't do was to undermine our Captain and our club. If you can't see that and then understand why some reacted the way they did then quite frankly you are a lost cause. H He didn't do anything. He just didn't respond to Ryan. He moved on and props to him for that. Same with Ryan. It's just Stoke fans think this is now a given right to start hurling abuse at him in the worst possible way. I mean how low do people have to be to mock an injury like that. I don't feel it's fair on Ryan either, but I guess people who sing those songs aren't the most intelligent human beings on the planet. He didn't undermine our captain or our club. We did that ourselves. You are a fucking wind up merchant. There is no other explanation for you to completely ignore his comments about Ryan that he never needed to make. Wengers puppet. He abolutely did undermine both. The press didnt keep bringing that injury up time after time because of what a few of our fans sang about him. H
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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 15, 2018 16:57:28 GMT
He didn't do anything. He just didn't respond to Ryan. He moved on and props to him for that. Same with Ryan. It's just Stoke fans think this is now a given right to start hurling abuse at him in the worst possible way. I mean how low do people have to be to mock an injury like that. I don't feel it's fair on Ryan either, but I guess people who sing those songs aren't the most intelligent human beings on the planet. He didn't undermine our captain or our club. We did that ourselves. You are a fucking wind up merchant. There is no other explanation for you to completely ignore his comments about Ryan that he never needed to make. Wengers puppet. He abolutely did undermine both. The press didnt keep bringing that injury up time after time because of what a few of our fans sang about him. H What comments did he make? Legitimate comments, not you assuming things. The injury is part of his life, he can talk about it as much as he wants. Who are we to put him down for that. He gets interviewed all the time so he's bound to be asked about it. We could've shown our class by not even delving into it, but no Stoke fans being the intelligent bunch they are, decided to start hurling abuse at the victim. Only you could call me a wind up merchant when I'm acting like a rational human being. Grow up seriously.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on May 15, 2018 17:03:33 GMT
You are a fucking wind up merchant. There is no other explanation for you to completely ignore his comments about Ryan that he never needed to make. Wengers puppet. He abolutely did undermine both. The press didnt keep bringing that injury up time after time because of what a few of our fans sang about him. H What comments did he make? Legitimate comments, not you assuming things. The injury is part of his life, he can talk about it as much as he wants. Who are we to put him down for that. He gets interviewed all the time so he's bound to be asked about it. We could've shown our class by not even delving into it, but no Stoke fans being the intelligent bunch they are, decided to start hurling abuse at the victim. Only you could call me a wind up merchant when I'm acting like a rational human being. Grow up seriously. Victim? Seriously, victim? If youre a rational human being perhaps you could comprehend that people will have differing opinions to you. And thats ok, no body is right all the time, despite what my wife tells me.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 15, 2018 17:05:05 GMT
What comments did he make? Legitimate comments, not you assuming things. The injury is part of his life, he can talk about it as much as he wants. Who are we to put him down for that. He gets interviewed all the time so he's bound to be asked about it. We could've shown our class by not even delving into it, but no Stoke fans being the intelligent bunch they are, decided to start hurling abuse at the victim. Only you could call me a wind up merchant when I'm acting like a rational human being. Grow up seriously. Victim? Seriously, victim? If youre a rational human being perhaps you could comprehend that people will have differing opinions to you. And thats ok, no body is right all the time, despite what my wife tells me. Yes, the victim. The person that was injured as a result of the accident. Don't worry I don't expect most football fans to know what that word means. Because Ramsey is the victim here, and we only made it worse.
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Post by RAF on May 15, 2018 17:07:23 GMT
You are a fucking wind up merchant. There is no other explanation for you to completely ignore his comments about Ryan that he never needed to make. Wengers puppet. He abolutely did undermine both. The press didnt keep bringing that injury up time after time because of what a few of our fans sang about him. H What comments did he make? Legitimate comments, not you assuming things. The injury is part of his life, he can talk about it as much as he wants. Who are we to put him down for that. He gets interviewed all the time so he's bound to be asked about it. We could've shown our class by not even delving into it, but no Stoke fans being the intelligent bunch they are, decided to start hurling abuse at the victim. Only you could call me a wind up merchant when I'm acting like a rational human being. Grow up seriously. As I thought, you know fuck all about what he said in his interview but are quite happy to defend him without that information. Rational Human Being? Pious uninformed WUM is a better description. H
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on May 15, 2018 17:07:26 GMT
Victim? Seriously, victim? If youre a rational human being perhaps you could comprehend that people will have differing opinions to you. And thats ok, no body is right all the time, despite what my wife tells me. Yes, the victim. The person that was injured as a result of the accident. Don't worry I don't expect most football fans to know what that word means. Because Ramsey is the victim here, and we only made it worse.
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Post by retired1 on May 15, 2018 17:19:59 GMT
Another poor us victim mentality. Tiresome.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 15, 2018 17:22:53 GMT
What comments did he make? Legitimate comments, not you assuming things. The injury is part of his life, he can talk about it as much as he wants. Who are we to put him down for that. He gets interviewed all the time so he's bound to be asked about it. We could've shown our class by not even delving into it, but no Stoke fans being the intelligent bunch they are, decided to start hurling abuse at the victim. Only you could call me a wind up merchant when I'm acting like a rational human being. Grow up seriously. As I thought, you know fuck all about what he said in his interview but are quite happy to defend him without that information. Rational Human Being? Pious uninformed WUM is a better description. H I read the interview. Nothing wrong with it at all.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 15, 2018 17:24:08 GMT
Yes, the victim. The person that was injured as a result of the accident. Don't worry I don't expect most football fans to know what that word means. Because Ramsey is the victim here, and we only made it worse. Well, am I wrong? I'm pretty sure he IS the victim here.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 17:24:27 GMT
Jesus fucking wept 🙄
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on May 15, 2018 17:26:29 GMT
Well, am I wrong? I'm pretty sure he IS the victim here. Your not a teacher by any chance? That would explain everything.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 15, 2018 17:34:18 GMT
Well, am I wrong? I'm pretty sure he IS the victim here. Your not a teacher by any chance? That would explain everything. "You're"
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on May 15, 2018 17:37:16 GMT
Your not a teacher by any chance? That would explain everything. "You're" Ah, it all makes sense now. Sorry sir, I'll make sure I finish my lines in time for detention.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 15, 2018 17:40:39 GMT
Ah, it all makes sense now. Sorry sir, I'll make sure I finish my lines in time for detention. I know you will. You're a good boy.
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Post by Absolution on May 15, 2018 17:41:24 GMT
The Evans tackle on Holden was far worse. It finished Holden's career at the top level. Why isn't Evans reviled as Shawcross is? Maybe because he issued an apology straightaway, and Holden graciously accepted it. End of story.
The Shawcross/Ramsey shit carried on because Ramsey and the media kept poking a stick at it. Our supporters fell for it and made ourselves live up to a stereotype the media were happy to perpetuate.
We sang about Ramsey walking with a limp. Arsenal fans sung that they hoped Shawcross died. Which was worse? Which got massive coverage in the media?
Wenger and Ramsey took the piss. We just defended our player. Whatever we'd have done would have been twisted to make us look bad.
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