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Post by robwahlmann on May 10, 2018 17:09:11 GMT
How good is this lad? Wanted by other PL-teams, but couldn't agree new terms with us if the press is to be believed?  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 10, 2018 17:14:43 GMT
He's got a great goalscoring record at u18 level but he's an absolute man mountain.
Is it down to that or is he actually quite good?
I think it's a bit of both. He's very raw though but should have had more u23 game time this season.
Got to wonder why we can't agree a deal with him though
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2018 17:15:31 GMT
He's got a great goalscoring record are u18 level but he's an absolute man mountain. Is it down to that or is he actually quite good? I think it's a bit of both. He's very raw though but should have had more u23 game time this season. Got to wonder why we can't agree a deal with him though Same reason we'll end up keeping Lambert... |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 11, 2018 9:24:51 GMT
The cracks are showing.
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Post by jimmygscfc on May 11, 2018 10:08:14 GMT
What cracks exactly Bayern?
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Post by maliciousdamage on May 11, 2018 10:12:47 GMT
I saw this lad play up front with Campbell and they looked a good pairing this lad looked good no doubt he’ll go on to be a world beater and we’ve let him go
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Post by lawrieleslie on May 11, 2018 10:20:33 GMT
FFS never heard of him before. If he’s so good why hasn’t he featured considering our complete absence of a goal scorer this season? It makes my blood boil when we’ve had to endure Berangoals, Diouf and his Magnificent Misses, Jesé and Cheapo Motel and not given this lad a chance. You just know this lad will go to wet spam and become a decent striker. Yep our academy has certainly produced........for other clubs. Grrrr
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Post by cbwhu on May 11, 2018 10:29:21 GMT
Just seen him linked with us - readwestham.com/2018/05/11/west-ham-prepare-deal-to-sign-stoke-citys-jordan-greenidge/West Ham are preparing a deal to take Stoke City’s highly rated youngster Jordan Greenidge, reports Football Insider. The Potters have failed to agree a new deal for the 18-year-old and it is expected he will move on in the summer. Greenidge has been one of the best young talents at Stoke since signing for them in 2016 but they are braced to see him move for free with a number of clubs interested in his services. This would be a massive blow to the Staffordshire club as, after relegation to the Championship, he would likely get a chance in the first team in pre-season. He was named by Four Four Two as the next big thing at Stoke just this month. The Hammers hope he will make his future with them after an impressive season in the Under 23’s and academy sides. The prodigy has scored over 20 goals for Stoke’s academy side, as well as mustering 25 goals in 43 games for the under 23’s. West Ham will face many rivals for Greenidge’s signature with Watford, Birmingham City and Fulham also interested in the Englishman but they’ll be confident of getting their man. |
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Post by nutterpotter on May 11, 2018 10:36:26 GMT
Just seen him linked with us - readwestham.com/2018/05/11/west-ham-prepare-deal-to-sign-stoke-citys-jordan-greenidge/West Ham are preparing a deal to take Stoke City’s highly rated youngster Jordan Greenidge, reports Football Insider. The Potters have failed to agree a new deal for the 18-year-old and it is expected he will move on in the summer. Greenidge has been one of the best young talents at Stoke since signing for them in 2016 but they are braced to see him move for free with a number of clubs interested in his services. This would be a massive blow to the Staffordshire club as, after relegation to the Championship, he would likely get a chance in the first team in pre-season. He was named by Four Four Two as the next big thing at Stoke just this month. The Hammers hope he will make his future with them after an impressive season in the Under 23’s and academy sides. The prodigy has scored over 20 goals for Stoke’s academy side, as well as mustering 25 goals in 43 games for the under 23’s.West Ham will face many rivals for Greenidge’s signature with Watford, Birmingham City and Fulham also interested in the Englishman but they’ll be confident of getting their man. That can't be right. He's hardly played for the U23s this season. |
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Post by cbwhu on May 11, 2018 10:38:52 GMT
Just seen him linked with us - readwestham.com/2018/05/11/west-ham-prepare-deal-to-sign-stoke-citys-jordan-greenidge/West Ham are preparing a deal to take Stoke City’s highly rated youngster Jordan Greenidge, reports Football Insider. The Potters have failed to agree a new deal for the 18-year-old and it is expected he will move on in the summer. Greenidge has been one of the best young talents at Stoke since signing for them in 2016 but they are braced to see him move for free with a number of clubs interested in his services. This would be a massive blow to the Staffordshire club as, after relegation to the Championship, he would likely get a chance in the first team in pre-season. He was named by Four Four Two as the next big thing at Stoke just this month. The Hammers hope he will make his future with them after an impressive season in the Under 23’s and academy sides. The prodigy has scored over 20 goals for Stoke’s academy side, as well as mustering 25 goals in 43 games for the under 23’s.West Ham will face many rivals for Greenidge’s signature with Watford, Birmingham City and Fulham also interested in the Englishman but they’ll be confident of getting their man. That can't be right. He's hardly played for the U23s this season. U18's maybe? |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 11:05:32 GMT
He's a fat Tyrese Campbell.
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Post by elystokie on May 11, 2018 11:19:04 GMT
For fucks sake can we get anything at all right lately?
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Post by Gods on May 11, 2018 11:29:31 GMT
Best known for his square cut, used to knock the casing off the ball if he really got hold of it  |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on May 11, 2018 11:37:50 GMT
saw him last season with Cambpell in the U-18s v Man City the looked a decent pair but way behind the city lads , he is big and awkward but looks to be a handful with an eye for goal , surprised we are letting him go unless he wants silly money , some clubs pay these kids way too much before they have achieved anything
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on May 11, 2018 11:39:18 GMT
He's a fat Tyrese Campbell. Or Johnny Walters  |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 12:38:23 GMT
What exactly is our Academy actually achieving? (Genuine question, as I'm not sure).
It looks like this guy has got enough about him to warrant interest from elsewhere.
We've got 'the best of them' now seeing 1st Team involvement (Campbell) but he doesn't look ready.
Verlinden - biggest European talent in his age group? Can't get a look in.
N'Goy - not pulling up trees in L1.
What happened to Moha? Came from Barca, highly rated, disappeared.
Sergio Molina? Real Madrid U19 captain, massively rated, disappeared.
I don't follow it closely, admittedly.
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Post by jezzascfc on May 11, 2018 13:32:41 GMT
Good opening bat - does he come as a pair with Haynes?
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Post by vahl on May 11, 2018 13:44:39 GMT
What exactly is our Academy actually achieving? (Genuine question, as I'm not sure). It looks like this guy has got enough about him to warrant interest from elsewhere. We've got 'the best of them' now seeing 1st Team involvement (Campbell) but he doesn't look ready. Verlinden - biggest European talent in his age group? Can't get a look in.N'Goy - not pulling up trees in L1. What happened to Moha? Came from Barca, highly rated, disappeared. Sergio Molina? Real Madrid U19 captain, massively rated, disappeared. I don't follow it closely, admittedly. On a (semi) recent conversation I had with a mate of mine that coaches one of the best Youth Teams in Europe (the club is based in Belgium, top division), I learned that Verlinden is actually not that well known tbh. He isn't rated that much, in fact there are loads and loads more Belgian players coming through that are being talked about, Verlinden isn't even on the radar. |
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Post by wagsastokie on May 11, 2018 13:49:45 GMT
Good opening bat - does he come as a pair with Haynes? Unfortunately not he’s busy writing his repair manuals |
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Post by Gods on May 11, 2018 16:08:40 GMT
Good opening bat - does he come as a pair with Haynes? And formed a devastating opening partnership with the great Barry Richards at Hampshire for a long time. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 13, 2018 18:21:24 GMT
Heard we haven't actually offered him a contract, which is just madness if true.
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Post by nonameface on May 13, 2018 18:30:17 GMT
Heard we haven't actually offered him a contract, which is just madness if true. Is this the first sign of reducing expenditure now we are relegated? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 13, 2018 18:33:03 GMT
Heard we haven't actually offered him a contract, which is just madness if true. Is this the first sign of reducing expenditure now we are relegated? Possibly yeah but we still need an u23 squad to keep category 1 status unless they want that to change? |
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Post by andylgr on May 14, 2018 10:07:57 GMT
What exactly is our Academy actually achieving? (Genuine question, as I'm not sure). It looks like this guy has got enough about him to warrant interest from elsewhere. We've got 'the best of them' now seeing 1st Team involvement (Campbell) but he doesn't look ready. Verlinden - biggest European talent in his age group? Can't get a look in. N'Goy - not pulling up trees in L1. What happened to Moha? Came from Barca, highly rated, disappeared. Sergio Molina? Real Madrid U19 captain, massively rated, disappeared. I don't follow it closely, admittedly. What gets me about these academies is the amount of players they are stock piling, yet in our case where are these players getting their experience? Realistically how many players since Shotton and Wilko have come in and look like they are going to nail down a first team place? Maybe they'll get more of a look in when we're playing in the championship, but you look down the road at Crewe and Vale and they seem to have quite a few highly rated youngsters from their academies playing first team football, but where are ours in those leagues? Are they out at that level getting good reviews? |
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Post by 3putts on May 14, 2018 11:37:15 GMT
Heard we haven't actually offered him a contract, which is just madness if true. Is this the first sign of reducing expenditure now we are relegated? No its a sign of the times young lad demanding a stupid wage knowing full well he can go to any other club.it stinks but then again its football in the 21st centuary |
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Post by maliciousdamage on May 14, 2018 11:48:22 GMT
What exactly is our Academy actually achieving? (Genuine question, as I'm not sure). It looks like this guy has got enough about him to warrant interest from elsewhere. We've got 'the best of them' now seeing 1st Team involvement (Campbell) but he doesn't look ready. Verlinden - biggest European talent in his age group? Can't get a look in. N'Goy - not pulling up trees in L1. What happened to Moha? Came from Barca, highly rated, disappeared. Sergio Molina? Real Madrid U19 captain, massively rated, disappeared. I don't follow it closely, admittedly. I'll tell you what its achieving its taking kids out of Sunday League football and promising them the earth, having parents trek up and down the North West and Midlands playing other so called academies in games in front of coaches who spend most of the time looking at their mobiles phones and not the game then after a couple of years they spit them out saying they ain't good enough whilst they take on another kid who's dad is an ex player from some other club not even having played for Stoke in their career, no doubt the big wigs that run it like to spout on about how great the facility is and how it attracts the best potential players. To even get in its more 'who' you know not what you know or how you play. Its the biggest farce going and I can't believe how Stoke have bought into it. Bring back apprenticeships and the reserve league and leave the kids to play in their Sunday Lads n Dads teams until they can make it to a higher level at 16-18 and move up from there. |
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Post by andylgr on May 14, 2018 12:44:24 GMT
What exactly is our Academy actually achieving? (Genuine question, as I'm not sure). It looks like this guy has got enough about him to warrant interest from elsewhere. We've got 'the best of them' now seeing 1st Team involvement (Campbell) but he doesn't look ready. Verlinden - biggest European talent in his age group? Can't get a look in. N'Goy - not pulling up trees in L1. What happened to Moha? Came from Barca, highly rated, disappeared. Sergio Molina? Real Madrid U19 captain, massively rated, disappeared. I don't follow it closely, admittedly. I'll tell you what its achieving its taking kids out of Sunday League football and promising them the earth, having parents trek up and down the North West and Midlands playing other so called academies in games in front of coaches who spend most of the time looking at their mobiles phones and not the game then after a couple of years they spit them out saying they ain't good enough whilst they take on another kid who's dad is an ex player from some other club not even having played for Stoke in their career, no doubt the big wigs that run it like to spout on about how great the facility is and how it attracts the best potential players. To even get in its more 'who' you know not what you know or how you play. Its the biggest farce going and I can't believe how Stoke have bought into it. Bring back apprenticeships and the reserve league and leave the kids to play in their Sunday Lads n Dads teams until they can make it to a higher level at 16-18 and move up from there. It won't change. From the premier league down to those teams who still run academies in the conference, they are all run in much the same way. |
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Post by nonameface on May 14, 2018 13:36:47 GMT
Is this the first sign of reducing expenditure now we are relegated? No its a sign of the times young lad demanding a stupid wage knowing full well he can go to any other club.it stinks but then again its football in the 21st centuary My understanding is if we offer a contract of £1+pwk more than he is presently getting then we will be due compensation. By not making any offer then we could be waiving those rights. Doesn't make sense. |
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Post by maliciousdamage on May 14, 2018 14:26:58 GMT
I'll tell you what its achieving its taking kids out of Sunday League football and promising them the earth, having parents trek up and down the North West and Midlands playing other so called academies in games in front of coaches who spend most of the time looking at their mobiles phones and not the game then after a couple of years they spit them out saying they ain't good enough whilst they take on another kid who's dad is an ex player from some other club not even having played for Stoke in their career, no doubt the big wigs that run it like to spout on about how great the facility is and how it attracts the best potential players. To even get in its more 'who' you know not what you know or how you play. Its the biggest farce going and I can't believe how Stoke have bought into it. Bring back apprenticeships and the reserve league and leave the kids to play in their Sunday Lads n Dads teams until they can make it to a higher level at 16-18 and move up from there. It won't change. From the premier league down to those teams who still run academies in the conference, they are all run in much the same way. As usual under an FA blind eye!!!! |
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Post by itsmorethanagame on May 14, 2018 15:00:02 GMT
I just don’t think he’s rated that highly by the academy? N’Goy and Campbell are the hotter pair but neither of them look like they will be leading the line anytime soon for us do they. N’Goy struggled to make a serious impact at Walsall and Campbell looking a while off first team starter yet.
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