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Post by numpty40 on May 9, 2018 20:52:12 GMT
Five British managers have had a major hand in the relegation of the three teams from the Premier League:
Paul Clement
Alan Pardew
Tony Pulis
Mark Hughes
Paul Lambert.
Peter Coates has employed 3 of them and appears to want to continue this strange trait of his!
7 of the bottom of 10 are managed by British managers.
8 of the top 10 are managed by foreign managers.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 9, 2018 21:03:40 GMT
6 of the top 6 are the biggest & richest clubs in the country.
8 of the top 10 are the biggest clubs in the country.
8 of the bottom 10 would not be in an all-time list of teams with seasons spent in the top-flight.
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Post by numpty40 on May 9, 2018 22:13:17 GMT
6 of the top 6 are the biggest & richest clubs in the country. 8 of the top 10 are the biggest clubs in the country. 8 of the bottom 10 would not be in an all-time list of teams with seasons spent in the top-flight. Absolutely, shame those top 6 clubs keep avoiding British managers when they need a new one. |
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Post by duckling on May 9, 2018 22:18:25 GMT
3 of 6 candidates for manager of the season are British, and their nominations are well deserved. Any one of them would have kept us up.
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Post by rawli on May 9, 2018 22:24:51 GMT
6 of the top 6 are the biggest & richest clubs in the country. 8 of the top 10 are the biggest clubs in the country. 8 of the bottom 10 would not be in an all-time list of teams with seasons spent in the top-flight. Absolutely, shame those top 6 clubs keep avoiding British managers when they need a new one. British managers aren't sought after around the world. Why would top 6 clubs risk it? Man Utd tried it with Moyes and it backfired spectacularly. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 9, 2018 22:33:46 GMT
Absolutely, shame those top 6 clubs keep avoiding British managers when they need a new one. British managers aren't sought after around the world. Why would top 6 clubs risk it? Man Utd tried it with Moyes and it backfired spectacularly. Good ones do get their chance generally too, despite what the media would have you believe. |
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Post by Gods on May 9, 2018 22:34:13 GMT
Most successful club managers of all time in England:
Alex Ferguson
Bob Paisley
Bill Shankly
Matt Busby
Brian Clough
3 Scotsman and 2 Englishman, no wonder we have all our eggs in the Paul Lambert basket!
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Post by JoeinOz on May 9, 2018 22:36:23 GMT
Most successful club managers of all time in England: Alex Ferguson Bob Paisley Bill Shankly Matt Busby Brian Clough 3 Scotsman and 2 Englishman, no wonder we have all our eggs in the Paul Lambert basket! Never you mind where my eggs are mate😀 I'd be surprised if most Stokies eggs are in basket Lambo. |
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Post by numpty40 on May 9, 2018 23:00:01 GMT
Absolutely, shame those top 6 clubs keep avoiding British managers when they need a new one. British managers aren't sought after around the world. Why would top 6 clubs risk it? Man Utd tried it with Moyes and it backfired spectacularly. Man Utd's loss, West Ham's gain  |
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Post by JoeinOz on May 9, 2018 23:22:53 GMT
The skyboys sometimes go on about British managers not getting a chance because of foreigners. Which is crap.
The real obstruction is the merry go round of British managers, who are mid table, have never won a trophy, yet stroll into job after job.
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Post by PotterLog on May 9, 2018 23:29:21 GMT
Absolutely, shame those top 6 clubs keep avoiding British managers when they need a new one. British managers aren't sought after around the world. Why would top 6 clubs risk it? Man Utd tried it with Moyes and it backfired spectacularly. To be fair the one they tried before him did alright |
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Post by duckling on May 10, 2018 2:28:58 GMT
British managers aren't sought after around the world. Why would top 6 clubs risk it? Man Utd tried it with Moyes and it backfired spectacularly. Crystal Palace replaced a fancy foreign name with an English dinosaur, and it worked beautifully. There are good British managers suitable for a club like Stoke (medium size, aiming for mid table). That seems to be the niche for British managers in the Premier League. Dyche, Hughton, Hodgson, Allardyce, and Howe would all have kept us up. This is controversial, but I think Pulis would have found some way to keep West Brom up and would have kept us up. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 10, 2018 4:50:46 GMT
British managers aren't sought after around the world. Why would top 6 clubs risk it? Man Utd tried it with Moyes and it backfired spectacularly. Crystal Palace replaced a fancy foreign name with an English dinosaur, and it worked beautifully. There are good British managers suitable for a club like Stoke (medium size, aiming for mid table). That seems to be the niche for British managers in the Premier League. Dyche, Hughton, Hodgson, Allardyce, and Howe would all have kept us up. This is controversial, but I think Pulis would have found some way to keep West Brom up and would have kept us up. West Brom should never have been in that position in the first place and it was Pulis’ fault they were. |
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Post by Pugsley on May 10, 2018 6:04:58 GMT
British managers aren't sought after around the world. Why would top 6 clubs risk it? Man Utd tried it with Moyes and it backfired spectacularly. Crystal Palace replaced a fancy foreign name with an English dinosaur, and it worked beautifully. There are good British managers suitable for a club like Stoke (medium size, aiming for mid table). That seems to be the niche for British managers in the Premier League. Dyche, Hughton, Hodgson, Allardyce, and Howe would all have kept us up. This is controversial, but I think Pulis would have found some way to keep West Brom up and would have kept us up. He wasn't interested in keeping them up.. |
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Post by nott1 on May 10, 2018 6:10:16 GMT
Absolutely, shame those top 6 clubs keep avoiding British managers when they need a new one. British managers aren't sought after around the world. Why would top 6 clubs risk it? Man Utd tried it with Moyes and it backfired spectacularly. Yea, that Fergie was useless and won nowt! |
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Post by rawli on May 10, 2018 6:29:34 GMT
British managers aren't sought after around the world. Why would top 6 clubs risk it? Man Utd tried it with Moyes and it backfired spectacularly. Crystal Palace replaced a fancy foreign name with an English dinosaur, and it worked beautifully. There are good British managers suitable for a club like Stoke (medium size, aiming for mid table). That seems to be the niche for British managers in the Premier League. Dyche, Hughton, Hodgson, Allardyce, and Howe would all have kept us up. This is controversial, but I think Pulis would have found some way to keep West Brom up and would have kept us up. The top 6 aren't interested in just staying up. |
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Post by rawli on May 10, 2018 6:33:35 GMT
British managers aren't sought after around the world. Why would top 6 clubs risk it? Man Utd tried it with Moyes and it backfired spectacularly. Yea, that Fergie was useless and won nowt! And wouldn't have lasted at Man Utd if he had the same first 2 seasons. |
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Post by Waggy on May 10, 2018 8:28:04 GMT
Yea, that Fergie was useless and won nowt! And wouldn't have lasted at Man Utd if he had the same first 2 seasons. Could Lambert become our Fergie given time. I may have change my opinion |
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on May 10, 2018 8:33:47 GMT
There's always been a flaw with just trying to go after british managers. There aren't enough of the good ones around.
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Post by Veritas on May 10, 2018 9:12:07 GMT
Yea, that Fergie was useless and won nowt! And wouldn't have lasted at Man Utd if he had the same first 2 seasons. He wouldn't be given the time to develop at Man U in today's frenzied climate. |
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on May 10, 2018 10:01:12 GMT
Alex Neil to replace Lambert  |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 10, 2018 10:06:00 GMT
Alex Neil to replace Lambert That’d be alright I think? |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on May 10, 2018 10:11:05 GMT
6 of the top 6 are the biggest & richest clubs in the country. 8 of the top 10 are the biggest clubs in the country. 8 of the bottom 10 would not be in an all-time list of teams with seasons spent in the top-flight. Absolutely, shame those top 6 clubs keep avoiding British managers when they need a new one. However a British Manager brought Liverpool the closest they have ever been to winning the Premier League. |
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Post by rawli on May 10, 2018 10:32:35 GMT
Absolutely, shame those top 6 clubs keep avoiding British managers when they need a new one. However Luis Suarez brought Liverpool the closest they have ever been to winning the Premier League. Corrected it for you 😀 |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 10, 2018 11:15:40 GMT
However Luis Suarez brought Liverpool the closest they have ever been to winning the Premier League. Corrected it for you 😀 Not really true tbf. Rodgers did a stellar job and got a number of players, not just Suarez, playing the best football of their careers to that time. He is awful in the transfer market though, and so the task of replacing Suarez was beyond him. Then again loads of teams struggle to replace their best player. Spurs did with Bale. Everton did with Lukaku. We did with Nzonzi then Arnie. |
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Post by professorplump on May 10, 2018 12:57:51 GMT
There seems to be some good British managers in the Football League such as Paul Cook, Paul Hurst, Lee Johnson, Gary Rowett and Dean Smith but I can't see any of them getting a chance in the PL unless they take a team up themselves.
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Post by robstokie on May 10, 2018 15:56:56 GMT
There seems to be some good British managers in the Football League such as Paul Cook, Paul Hurst, Lee Johnson, Gary Rowett and Dean Smith but I can't see any of them getting a chance in the PL unless they take a team up themselves. I hope we are talking to at least 1 or 2 of the above - we need fresh impetus next season, not the same stale ideas coming from a yesterday's man |
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