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Post by WhyDelilah on May 8, 2018 19:44:19 GMT
You can't compare Berhaino to Gayle!!!!!! I get that Gayle is proven at that level. But in terms of the way they play I don't see too much difference. Except a more Diouf-like work ethic. Berahino is completely broken. I doubt he'll recover to have any kind of career from here on in. Gayle, on the other hand, is proven at Championship level. You'd probably be looking at 15 to 20 goals if he stays fit.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 8, 2018 19:44:22 GMT
I'd want a bona fide DM brought in. Fair enough, personally I think we'd need both, Allen was a big part of the problem for me and we should look to rebuild without him. EVERY single team in the Championship would kill to have Allen in their team.
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Post by LGH87 on May 8, 2018 19:45:18 GMT
I don’t for a minute think Allen will be here next season, but maybe he’s said he’d be willing to give it a go until at least Jan. so based on that article if we could start the season with a side close to this I’d be, we’d stand half a chance.
Dean Henderson
Bauer Ryan Bruno Pieters
Allen Philip Billing
Ollie Watkins Bojan Kamil Grosicki
Gayle
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 8, 2018 19:45:33 GMT
Fair enough, personally I think we'd need both, Allen was a big part of the problem for me and we should look to rebuild without him. EVERY single team in the Championship would kill to have Allen in their team. Let them have him, we can get someone in that's comfortable with the ball.
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Post by steino1966 on May 8, 2018 19:46:32 GMT
Cut a deal and get Gayle, Ritchie and Mitrovic and we'll give them Shaq (if the rumour of the £12 million release clause is true), plus some money.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 8, 2018 19:46:47 GMT
27's a good age for a striker, isn't it? Right at his peak The article says 28. Seems very short term. Probably get 1-2 seasons at most out of him, regardless of promotion. I don't think he is that different to Berahino either. Just older. Yeah - you're right. 28. I think it's best to target players that are known quantities though. Basically we need someone to fire us up, and if he does that, it's job done if he never kick a ball for us again
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Post by FullerMagic on May 8, 2018 19:48:25 GMT
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Post by nigerianstokie on May 8, 2018 19:54:30 GMT
I get that Gayle is proven at that level. But in terms of the way they play I don't see too much difference. Except a more Diouf-like work ethic. Berahino is completely broken. I doubt he'll recover to have any kind of career from here on in. Gayle, on the other hand, is proven at Championship level. You'd probably be looking at 15 to 20 goals if he stays fit. Without a creative midfielder, Gayle would experience the exact same problems. Very clever in his movement, nonexistent service. Neither are the kind to create something from nothing. I still think Berahino can make something of himself. Not here perhaps, but somewhere he will still do something. You don't just forget how to score overnight.
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 8, 2018 19:55:58 GMT
Berahino is completely broken. I doubt he'll recover to have any kind of career from here on in. Gayle, on the other hand, is proven at Championship level. You'd probably be looking at 15 to 20 goals if he stays fit. Without a creative midfielder, Gayle would experience the exact same problems. Very clever in his movement, nonexistent service. Neither are the kind to create something from nothing. I still think Berahino can make something of himself. Not here perhaps, but somewhere he will still do something. You don't just forget how to score overnight. Well, he has tbf.
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Post by clarkeda on May 8, 2018 19:56:32 GMT
My only complaint is if he does get us up, he’s not good enough to help stabilise us.
So we’d need to go shopping AGAIN. And strikers is one area we’re not good at.
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Post by nigerianstokie on May 8, 2018 19:58:38 GMT
The article says 28. Seems very short term. Probably get 1-2 seasons at most out of him, regardless of promotion. I don't think he is that different to Berahino either. Just older. Yeah - you're right. 28. I think it's best to target players that are known quantities though. Basically we need someone to fire us up, and if he does that, it's job done if he never kick a ball for us again I suppose. I would rather we got a couple of players who could create chances first though. Gayle won't do it on his own, he needs the ball within the box. We can't do that. Still time I know but I aren't convinced. Plus I think the fact we are ploughing on means Lambo is staying which depresses the shit out of me.
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Post by nigerianstokie on May 8, 2018 19:59:45 GMT
Without a creative midfielder, Gayle would experience the exact same problems. Very clever in his movement, nonexistent service. Neither are the kind to create something from nothing. I still think Berahino can make something of himself. Not here perhaps, but somewhere he will still do something. You don't just forget how to score overnight. Well, he has tbf. This isn't a case of advocating Berahino. I just don't see much difference between the two.
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 8, 2018 20:00:46 GMT
This isn't a case of advocating Berahino. I just don't see much difference between the two. One is a proven Championship goal scorer, one is a proven shit house.
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Post by march4 on May 8, 2018 20:01:02 GMT
Stories like this won’t soothe the anger if Lambert isn’t sacked.
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Post by scfc5 on May 8, 2018 20:01:33 GMT
My only complaint is if he does get us up, he’s not good enough to help stabilise us. So we’d need to go shopping AGAIN. And strikers is one area we’re not good at. That’s our new reality though. We’re a Championship club and will have to re-establish ourselves if we get back up.
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Post by teenagefanclub on May 8, 2018 20:02:14 GMT
My only complaint is if he does get us up, he’s not good enough to help stabilise us. So we’d need to go shopping AGAIN. And strikers is one area we’re not good at. What a bizarre complaint. Best not bother with him then.
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Post by nigerianstokie on May 8, 2018 20:03:14 GMT
This isn't a case of advocating Berahino. I just don't see much difference between the two. One is a proven Championship goal scorer, one is a proven shit house. Granted. Still not convinced by him though.
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Post by nonameface on May 8, 2018 20:03:19 GMT
Without a creative midfielder, Gayle would experience the exact same problems. Very clever in his movement, nonexistent service. Neither are the kind to create something from nothing. I still think Berahino can make something of himself. Not here perhaps, but somewhere he will still do something. You don't just forget how to score overnight. Well, he has tbf. Some may say he's forgotten to score over many a night, I mean this drought is two years! Dwight Gayle joining us for the championship would definitely prove how good our supply line is to our strikers pretty much once and for all. Would prefer to sell Allen instead of keeping him, reminds me a lot of Darrell Russel, headless chicken who actually adds nothing. Badou on the hand wins the ball and looks forward, it's important we keep him
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 20:04:11 GMT
I feel that cynical about Stoke City that I initially imagined the PR department issuing the public statement from the Coates Family and then, connecting us with Dwight Gale, purely to placate the natives and that would purely be an elaborate PR stunt.
On the other Hand, I do believe the Coates family have recognised their need to speak and, they have done so
Im just hoping the latter is true - and the former is just my twisted cynical imagination
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Post by FullerMagic on May 8, 2018 20:05:20 GMT
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Post by jezzascfc on May 8, 2018 20:06:03 GMT
Gayle is a proven striker at Championship level, which is what we need. No more hopeful punts on Jonny Foreigner on the cheap, who used to play for one of the big boys (there's usually a reason he "used to" and doesn't anymore)! I'd want another younger striker added too (Ollie Watkins at Brentford would do me).
Interesting that the leaked news includes talk of Allen staying and Choupo-Moting going - I thought it might have been the other way round.
Joe staying would be great news (for all other than bayern!). I'd make him captain and ask him to stay for a year to see if we can come straight back up.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 8, 2018 20:06:38 GMT
My only complaint is if he does get us up, he’s not good enough to help stabilise us. So we’d need to go shopping AGAIN. And strikers is one area we’re not good at. Well at THAT point we'd be shopping for strikers to do a job in the Premiership, however at the moment we're looking for strikers who can do a job in the Championship.
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Post by Pirate on May 8, 2018 20:08:35 GMT
Certainly proven Championship striker although given a choice i would prefer Mitrovic, think he would be an asset under any manager we may have.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2018 20:08:38 GMT
Gayle would be an excellent start.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 20:08:58 GMT
After such negativity today the board have tried to turn it around by this statement and by allowing this story to be leaked. Good PA work. Let's hope it does not destruct us to take our thought off getting rid of PL.
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Post by nonameface on May 8, 2018 20:10:27 GMT
Certainly proven Championship striker although given a choice i would prefer Mitrovic, think he would be an asset under any manager we may have. Yep, signing the pair wouldn't be bad either.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 20:11:11 GMT
Gayle & Vokes - would be a dream in the Championship
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 20:13:04 GMT
Tammy Abraham could be a decent shout after what he did at that level with Bristol City.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2018 20:13:41 GMT
After such negativity today the board have tried to turn it around by this statement and by allowing this story to be leaked. Good PA work. Let's hope it does not destruct us to take our thought off getting rid of PL. Scholes setting himself up for a fall potentially. Which is always fun. 😂
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Post by jezzascfc on May 8, 2018 20:13:42 GMT
Gayle would be an excellent start. bayern in "positivity shocker"!
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