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Post by nutterpotter on May 6, 2018 21:33:32 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 6, 2018 21:38:57 GMT
Well said that man bar the bit about Lambert staying. Scholes and Cartwright out. Total shambles.
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Post by Bullseye on May 6, 2018 21:38:59 GMT
Pretty much saying what we've all been saying.
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Post by thegift on May 6, 2018 21:41:00 GMT
Every bad word ive ever said about Butland, ill retract. He has finally had a pint of man the fuck up and told it exactly how it is instead of arguing with fans
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Post by scfcno1fan on May 6, 2018 21:41:28 GMT
I thought that article might be a breath of fresh air.
Sadly not with the statement about lambert.
Although I guess he’s closer to it all, so who are we to say he’s wrong?
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2018 21:42:50 GMT
It’s ok him saying Lambert should stay, he won’t even be here when things inevitably continue to go tits up.
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Post by nutterpotter on May 6, 2018 21:43:24 GMT
To be fair, he's not exactly going to say Lambert should get sacked, is he?
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Post by thegift on May 6, 2018 21:44:28 GMT
At least the players have something about them especially Butland saying this, some knobs on here will moan about him 'coming out and saying it how it is' but you can't win really.
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Post by auntiegeorge on May 6, 2018 21:44:54 GMT
That article has 100% confirmed Jack's intentions. You don't say provocative stuff like that which your bosses will read if you expect to stay around.
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Post by Pugsley on May 6, 2018 21:47:55 GMT
Oh shut it Butland, you're as culpable as the rest of 'em.
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Post by huuuuuth on May 6, 2018 21:48:46 GMT
Wowsers. It's not very often a player confirms what we all thought. Shocking levels of incompetence from those in charge (being paid a shit load of dosh too) That deadline day cheering the pizzas arriving sums it all up. Wankers. Signed - mr angry as fuck  |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 6, 2018 21:51:07 GMT
The Hughes holiday camp really was in full flow🤔
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Post by sufolkstokie on May 6, 2018 21:51:09 GMT
Oh shut it Butland, you're as culpable as the rest of 'em. Indeed In the world of pr some muppets may swallow but what an empty soul he must be |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 6, 2018 21:51:10 GMT
Presumably that’s him dropped at Swansea if the supposed new discipline us in place , worth it though should make scholes and cartwright splutter a little
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Post by pulismaskreplica on May 6, 2018 21:52:22 GMT
Isn’t this pretty much what Shaqiri said but he got pelters for it??
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 6, 2018 21:52:22 GMT
So to clarify
Muni - loaned in Spain
Bojan - loan in Spain
Imbula - loaned to France
Jese - Never around
Berahino - Discipline issues
Wimmer - Overweight
Afellay - Fallen out with Lambert
Truly dreadful deals
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2018 21:53:45 GMT
Why has he and the rest sat around all season allowing these ill disciplined, unreliable players get away with what they have?
It's obvious there is a severe lack of "character" in our dressing room.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 6, 2018 21:54:02 GMT
So to clarify Muni - loaned in Spain Bojan - loan in Spain Imbula - loaned to France Jese - Never around Berahino - Discipline issues Wimmer - Overweight Afellay - Fallen out with Lambert Truly dreadful deals Not one of the fuckers with an ounce of backbone |
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Post by kustokie on May 6, 2018 21:55:09 GMT
So did he and some of the other seasoned professionals speak up or just go along with the Hughes-Bowen shit show? Marc Wilson’s comments about not practicing defense were an interesting clue into what was going on and Coates should have paid closer attention.
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 6, 2018 21:55:48 GMT
So to clarify Muni - loaned in Spain Bojan - loan in Spain Imbula - loaned to France Jese - Never around Berahino - Discipline issues Wimmer - Overweight Afellay - Fallen out with Lambert Truly dreadful deals Not one of the fuckers with an ounce of backbone Bit harsh on Muni |
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Post by bettyswallox on May 6, 2018 21:58:50 GMT
So to clarify Muni - loaned in Spain Bojan - loan in Spain Imbula - loaned to France Jese - Never around Berahino - Discipline issues Wimmer - Overweight Afellay - Fallen out with Lambert Truly dreadful deals I'd argue that Afellay hasn't necessarily fallen out with Lambert. I think it's more likely that Lambert identified him as a bad egg and fucked him off, rather than any specific falling out. |
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Post by crapslinger on May 6, 2018 21:59:10 GMT
Oh shut it Butland, you're as culpable as the rest of 'em. But not as guilty as Mark and his team of useless wankers. |
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Post by bettyswallox on May 6, 2018 21:59:40 GMT
Not one of the fuckers with an ounce of backbone Bit harsh on Muni Muni has too much backbone, hence why his hamstrings pop every 5 seconds. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2018 21:59:51 GMT
So to clarify Muni - loaned in Spain Bojan - loan in Spain Imbula - loaned to France Jese - Never around Berahino - Discipline issues Wimmer - Overweight Afellay - Fallen out with Lambert Truly dreadful deals I'd argue that Afellay hasn't necessarily fallen out with Lambert. I think it's more likely that Lambert identified him as a bad egg and fucked him off, rather than any specific falling out. Acting like a cunt in training and berating his team mates, with Cameron specifically mentioned. |
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Post by Waggy on May 6, 2018 22:00:42 GMT
Well said Jack. Cartwright must leave
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Post by crapslinger on May 6, 2018 22:01:43 GMT
The Hughes holiday camp really was in full flow🤔 Hi de Hi Campers. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2018 22:02:11 GMT
They had better sort out the character in the dressing room because looking at the Championship we will do a Sunderland if we keep most of the crap we have now. The ones with character like Alan, Butland, Shawcross could all be gone leaving us with a bunch of clowns
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Post by Pugsley on May 6, 2018 22:03:11 GMT
Oh shut it Butland, you're as culpable as the rest of 'em. But not as guilty as Mark and his team of useless wankers. Clearly. |
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Post by mrcoke on May 6, 2018 22:03:35 GMT
It was noticeable that Shaq went to Lambert when he scored yesterday instead of doing his usual "I'm the greatest" pose.
Butland obviously thinks more of Lambert that most of us on Oatcake.
I suspect there has been a division in the dressing room between those who have shown dissent/disrespect/incompetence and those worthwhile professionals who were trying their best and sick and tired of what was going on and pleased to see Lambert come in and start to sideline the likes of Jese, Berahino, and Afellay. Butland clearly supported the manager trying to sort matters out, thinks he should be allowed to continue to do so, and squarely puts the blame for the demise at the door of those responsible for signing players like Berahino, Jese, Imbula, Wimmer, etc. who have not just failed to perform but clearly do not have any loyalty to Stoke City.
I have said Lambert should now be removed; he is tainted by failure and cannot instill confidence in players, apart from any technical know how deficiency. But if Butland is right and Lambert has the support of the dressing room then provided other issues are addressed (recruitment, positive signs of improving academy product, ground improvements, access and egress to the site, etc.), I might change my mind and think Lambert should remain.
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on May 6, 2018 22:06:16 GMT
How did players (Butland included) not step up and self discipline those not toeing the line? Perhaps they did, but to no avail... Seems to have been a fail all the way around.
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