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Post by rawli on May 5, 2018 15:49:19 GMT
He's 80. Way too old to be in charge of a football club. The Lambert appointment illustrates that - fishing in a British / ex Premier League pool was utterly blinkered especially when Allardyce and Moyes were gone.
Should make himself club president and let his son take the reins.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2018 15:53:01 GMT
Peter needs to step down as chairman. There's no need for any abuse or over the top criticism but now is the time to reflect on some of the poor decisions that he and the board have made. They have appointed two managers that have not gained the results required. He as chairman appointed them - both.
He has overseen a dreadful recruitment policy that has seen us build one of the worst and unbalanced squads in recent times.
He must carry the can, step down and allow another member of the board their chance to rectify the wrongs of this season - a complete fresh pair of eyes and ideas.
We are desperate for a fresh direction and now, with so many of the first team leaving, is the one chance we will have to do it.
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Post by GoBoks on May 5, 2018 15:56:35 GMT
You suggesting we close the club? Been there done that, it’s much worse than relegation! Thank you Peter Coates, without whom we’d be a struggling League 1 side that most of the world has never heard of. The Icelanders took us to the Championship after years of neglect by Coates. Stop re-writing history. With no investment, how long do you think we would have stayed there - under Boskamp?
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Post by GoBoks on May 5, 2018 15:57:18 GMT
He should either fund the club properly with conviction and commitment and not try to fuck about on the cheap OR he should sell up and fuck off oh be careful what you wish for.
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Post by GoBoks on May 5, 2018 15:59:48 GMT
Peter needs to step down as chairman. There's no need for any abuse or over the top criticism but now is the time to reflect on some of the poor decisions that he and the board have made. They have appointed two managers that have not gained the results required. He as chairman appointed them - both. He has overseen a dreadful recruitment policy that has seen us build one of the worst and unbalanced squads in recent times. He must carry the can, step down and allow another member of the board their chance to rectify the wrongs of this season - a complete fresh pair of eyes and ideas. We are desperate for a fresh direction and now, with so many of the first team leaving, is the one chance we will have to do it. He has also overseen our very first stint in the premiership which went much better and lasted much longer than any of us dared to hope. He has also overseen our very first FA Cup final in 155 years. Not bad, all things considered. Now he needs to decide if he wants to catapult us back or step down. one of the two.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2018 16:01:15 GMT
Peter needs to step down as chairman. There's no need for any abuse or over the top criticism but now is the time to reflect on some of the poor decisions that he and the board have made. They have appointed two managers that have not gained the results required. He as chairman appointed them - both. He has overseen a dreadful recruitment policy that has seen us build one of the worst and unbalanced squads in recent times. He must carry the can, step down and allow another member of the board their chance to rectify the wrongs of this season - a complete fresh pair of eyes and ideas. We are desperate for a fresh direction and now, with so many of the first team leaving, is the one chance we will have to do it. He has also overseen our very first stint in the premiership which went much better and lasted much longer than any of us dared to hope. He has also overseen our very first FA Cup final in 155 years. Not bad, all things considered. Now he needs to decide if he wants to catapult us back or step down. one of the two. All very true and fair. I just worry about the downward trend and the impact an 80 year old who has been a fair bit responsible for it will have on the well being of the club, short, medium and long term. I respectfully think we need a change.
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Post by Godo on May 5, 2018 16:25:24 GMT
Yes St Peter did well for a while but I don't wear rose tinted glasses and I'm not a newby fans who wasn't here first time around. The writing has been on the wall for his running of the club, just as it was for Hughes for 2 seasons now. Ultimately he is responsible for us being relegated from a pretty shit Premiership and I don't trust him to recover the situation. Everyone has a sell by date and Coates has definitely reached his.
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Post by thevoid on May 5, 2018 19:01:47 GMT
The Icelanders took us to the Championship after years of neglect by Coates. Stop re-writing history. With no investment, how long do you think we would have stayed there - under Boskamp? That's all conjecture.
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Post by GoBoks on May 5, 2018 19:12:04 GMT
With no investment, how long do you think we would have stayed there - under Boskamp? That's all conjecture. Maybe, but what’s not conjecture is Coates bit the bullet, came back despite voluminous opposition from us, brought back Pulis despite voluminous opposition from us and enabled us to get in to the prem. If not for him, we would probably not have made it back to the top flight.
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Post by GoBoks on May 5, 2018 19:13:59 GMT
Yes St Peter did well for a while but I don't wear rose tinted glasses and I'm not a newby fans who wasn't here first time around. The writing has been on the wall for his running of the club, just as it was for Hughes for 2 seasons now. Ultimately he is responsible for us being relegated from a pretty shit Premiership and I don't trust him to recover the situation. Everyone has a sell by date and Coates has definitely reached his. But despite all that, if Coates left tomorrow, he leaves us in a better state than when he came back. Thank You Peter Coates!
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Post by thevoid on May 5, 2018 19:21:11 GMT
Yes St Peter did well for a while but I don't wear rose tinted glasses and I'm not a newby fans who wasn't here first time around. The writing has been on the wall for his running of the club, just as it was for Hughes for 2 seasons now. Ultimately he is responsible for us being relegated from a pretty shit Premiership and I don't trust him to recover the situation. Everyone has a sell by date and Coates has definitely reached his. But despite all that, if Coates left tomorrow, he leaves us in a better state than when he came back. Thank You Peter Coates! That's only because he left us in the shit before the Icelanders took over
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Post by werrington on May 5, 2018 19:32:22 GMT
Coates has done great things for our club and city. These last couple of years, he's failed to ensure Scholes and the recruitment staff do their job. He failed to ensure Mark Hughes avoided complacency. He failed to sack Hughes in the summer when he needed to go. He failed to give our number one management choice the money he was after. He then failed to appoint a manager good enough to keep us up. As a result, it is fair to ask for his removal. He has torn apart all that he has built up, and all the rivers of failure, be it Scholes penny pinching or Hughes' prolonged tenure, Coates is the source. Says the bloke who thinks Pulis did no wrong even though Coates backed him to the hilt but when the purse strings were pulled it was Hughes fault ,....yet you now want Coates fucked off Truly priceless
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Post by rednwhiteblood on May 5, 2018 19:46:20 GMT
You coates out guys are wankers. Where he has brought us from. Idiots the lot of you. We’re Stoke we are not a big city, we’ve done well to have 10 years in the prem. 3 teams have to go down and mistakes have been made and now we’re going down. It isn’t coates fault we’ve spent money on truely poor players. Jesé barely with us, Saido saga, awful Wimmer, letting bardsley and Walters go. These were recruitment errors he pays other people for these roles. It’s like all you TP haters careful what you wish for.
Let the ones go who want to go, replace them and find a goalscorer to get us back.
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Post by riponstokie on May 5, 2018 21:24:03 GMT
Coates has done great things for our club and city. These last couple of years, he's failed to ensure Scholes and the recruitment staff do their job. He failed to ensure Mark Hughes avoided complacency. He failed to sack Hughes in the summer when he needed to go. He failed to give our number one management choice the money he was after. He then failed to appoint a manager good enough to keep us up. As a result, it is fair to ask for his removal. He has torn apart all that he has built up, and all the rivers of failure, be it Scholes penny pinching or Hughes' prolonged tenure, Coates is the source. Says the bloke who thinks Pulis did no wrong even though Coates backed him to the hilt but when the purse strings were pulled it was Hughes fault ,....yet you now want Coates fucked off Truly priceless Actually Werrington, both me and my son (who is a very intelligent articulate young man with strong views) very occasionally post on here and he gave his opinion, a very valid opinion about Peter Coates. . My view is that Coates needs to take a good long hard look at himself and the debacle that he has overseen before making some big decisions. Having recently had a conversation with Tony Scholes, I am alarmed and deeply concerned on a number of levels. Firstly, his arrogance. I can see why he & Hughes got on so well and why he would have kept Hughes on as manager. He thought the sun shone out of his sorry arse and they are both arrogant beyond belief .Hughes was far too comfortable and Scholes was given far too much trust and power and I believe that he has abused that. It was very much an old boys club. I accused him of complacency, negligence and being in denial. And of course knowing how much he loved Mark fucking Hughes and despised Tony Pulis, I took great pleasure in telling him a few home truths such as Hughes dined out on TP's foundations, the spine, the core of his squad. I always questioned (knew) whether Hughes was capable of building his own and he of course has answered that - is he fuck. Scholes said that we aim to perform a Newcastle and come straight back. How? I asked because they kept their team together more or less. We will sell Butland, Shawcross, Allen & Shaq. He couldn't wait to say yes. We're closer to Sunderland which he strongly refuted of course. We are in a mess from top to bottom and it's going to take some very strong leadership to sort this. I personally do not believe Coates should go but I do think that he should get rid of Scholes, Cartwright and sadly Lambert who inherited the appalling mess left by Mark arrogant, complacent, negligent, lazy, incompetent Hughes. Regarding Tony Pulis. My son is far more objective than me when it comes to the legend Tony Pulis. I am not and I never will be. Coates should have never parted company with Tp. He got rid of the wrong Tony and today is the result of that I'm afraid. What he should have done was back Tp properly and build an Everton under Moyes kind of Premiership club. Anyway, we've certainly reached that next level that certain people were crying out for haven't we? Unfortunately, it's a level down. Well done Mark, you arrogant bastard. Thank you Tony Pulis - LEGEND forever & always.
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Post by johnbutlershair on May 5, 2018 21:33:27 GMT
Says the bloke who thinks Pulis did no wrong even though Coates backed him to the hilt but when the purse strings were pulled it was Hughes fault ,....yet you now want Coates fucked off Truly priceless Actually Werrington, both me and my son (who is a very intelligent articulate young man with strong views) very occasionally post on here and he gave his opinion, a very valid opinion about Peter Coates. . My view is that Coates needs to take a good long hard look at himself and the debacle that he has overseen before making some big decisions. Having recently had a conversation with Tony Scholes, I am alarmed and deeply concerned on a number of levels. Firstly, his arrogance. I can see why he & Hughes got on so well and why he would have kept Hughes on as manager. He thought the sun shone out of his sorry arse and they are both arrogant beyond belief .Hughes was far too comfortable and Scholes was given far too much trust and power and I believe that he has abused that. It was very much an old boys club. I accused him of complacency, negligence and being in denial. And of course knowing how much he loved Mark fucking Hughes and despised Tony Pulis, I took great pleasure in telling him a few home truths such as Hughes dined out on TP's foundations, the spine, the core of his squad. I always questioned (knew) whether Hughes was capable of building his own and he of course has answered that - is he fuck. Scholes said that we aim to perform a Newcastle and come straight back. How? I asked because they kept their team together more or less. We will sell Butland, Shawcross, Allen & Shaq. He couldn't wait to say yes. We're closer to Sunderland which he strongly refuted of course. We are in a mess from top to bottom and it's going to take some very strong leadership to sort this. I personally do not believe Coates should go but I do think that he should get rid of Scholes, Cartwright and sadly Lambert who inherited the appalling mess left by Mark arrogant, complacent, negligent, lazy, incompetent Hughes. Regarding Tony Pulis. My son is far more objective than me when it comes to the legend Tony Pulis. I am not and I never will be. Coates should have never parted company with Tp. He got rid of the wrong Tony and today is the result of that I'm afraid. What he should have done was back Tp properly and build an Everton under Moyes kind of Premiership club. Anyway, we've certainly reached that next level that certain people were crying out for haven't we? Unfortunately, it's a level down. Well done Mark, you arrogant bastard. Thank you Tony Pulis - LEGEND forever & always. I agree with a lot of what you say however I believe it was right at the time for Pulis to go. His replacement for Pennant was Kightly who wasn't good enough and shoehorning Shotton onto the right wing. Over a period of 38 games split over two seasons his points total was incredibly low and we were relegation material in his final season saved by the last 6-7 games. What Pulis did for us was fantastic but he reached the end of his shelf life with us.
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Post by miggoscfc on May 5, 2018 21:40:10 GMT
I'm angry. Respect is fading. Bought the club for 5m ( purchase for 1.7 m, paid off the Icelandic debts. ) Today he can cash in on our players. The improvements to the stadium puts worth on to any sale price. I don't begrudge their wealth. To start the season with an unbalanced, incapable ,incomplete squad is insane. I didnt realise it was August. How did the world cup go ?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 5, 2018 21:57:59 GMT
He's 80. Way too old to be in charge of a football club. The Lambert appointment illustrates that - fishing in a British / ex Premier League pool was utterly blinkered especially when Allardyce and Moyes were gone. Should make himself club president and let his son take the reins. Have you considered JC might just be part of the recruitment problem ?
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on May 5, 2018 22:36:38 GMT
This board is going to be wank for a few months isn’t it?
A few more months, should I say.
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Post by premiershipteamfor10years on May 6, 2018 5:42:21 GMT
Peter needs to step down as chairman. There's no need for any abuse or over the top criticism but now is the time to reflect on some of the poor decisions that he and the board have made. They have appointed two managers that have not gained the results required. He as chairman appointed them - both. He has overseen a dreadful recruitment policy that has seen us build one of the worst and unbalanced squads in recent times. He must carry the can, step down and allow another member of the board their chance to rectify the wrongs of this season - a complete fresh pair of eyes and ideas. We are desperate for a fresh direction and now, with so many of the first team leaving, is the one chance we will have to do it. I really don’t see another member of this present board being capable of rectifying all the wrongs of this season. We are desperate for a fresh direction from new owners with more ambition to compete at the top table.
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 6, 2018 7:30:17 GMT
Actually Werrington, both me and my son (who is a very intelligent articulate young man with strong views) very occasionally post on here and he gave his opinion, a very valid opinion about Peter Coates. . My view is that Coates needs to take a good long hard look at himself and the debacle that he has overseen before making some big decisions. Having recently had a conversation with Tony Scholes, I am alarmed and deeply concerned on a number of levels. Firstly, his arrogance. I can see why he & Hughes got on so well and why he would have kept Hughes on as manager. He thought the sun shone out of his sorry arse and they are both arrogant beyond belief .Hughes was far too comfortable and Scholes was given far too much trust and power and I believe that he has abused that. It was very much an old boys club. I accused him of complacency, negligence and being in denial. And of course knowing how much he loved Mark fucking Hughes and despised Tony Pulis, I took great pleasure in telling him a few home truths such as Hughes dined out on TP's foundations, the spine, the core of his squad. I always questioned (knew) whether Hughes was capable of building his own and he of course has answered that - is he fuck. Scholes said that we aim to perform a Newcastle and come straight back. How? I asked because they kept their team together more or less. We will sell Butland, Shawcross, Allen & Shaq. He couldn't wait to say yes. We're closer to Sunderland which he strongly refuted of course. We are in a mess from top to bottom and it's going to take some very strong leadership to sort this. I personally do not believe Coates should go but I do think that he should get rid of Scholes, Cartwright and sadly Lambert who inherited the appalling mess left by Mark arrogant, complacent, negligent, lazy, incompetent Hughes. Regarding Tony Pulis. My son is far more objective than me when it comes to the legend Tony Pulis. I am not and I never will be. Coates should have never parted company with Tp. He got rid of the wrong Tony and today is the result of that I'm afraid. What he should have done was back Tp properly and build an Everton under Moyes kind of Premiership club. Anyway, we've certainly reached that next level that certain people were crying out for haven't we? Unfortunately, it's a level down. Well done Mark, you arrogant bastard. Thank you Tony Pulis - LEGEND forever & always. I agree with a lot of what you say however I believe it was right at the time for Pulis to go. His replacement for Pennant was Kightly who wasn't good enough and shoehorning Shotton onto the right wing. Over a period of 38 games split over two seasons his points total was incredibly low and we were relegation material in his final season saved by the last 6-7 games. What Pulis did for us was fantastic but he reached the end of his shelf life with us. Something went terribly wrong in the January during the transfer window (coincidently Cartwright had been at the club about 6/7 weeks). We were actually sitting with a decent points tally and then we nosedived like a skydiver without a parachute until those last few games. I think we still ended with 42 or 43 points
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Post by cheshirepotter on May 6, 2018 7:42:57 GMT
Heartbroken. This is worse than a break up. Coates out and new management before the new season. Completely fucked us. Rubbish
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 6, 2018 7:44:58 GMT
Says the bloke who thinks Pulis did no wrong even though Coates backed him to the hilt but when the purse strings were pulled it was Hughes fault ,....yet you now want Coates fucked off Truly priceless Actually Werrington, both me and my son (who is a very intelligent articulate young man with strong views) very occasionally post on here and he gave his opinion, a very valid opinion about Peter Coates. . My view is that Coates needs to take a good long hard look at himself and the debacle that he has overseen before making some big decisions. Having recently had a conversation with Tony Scholes, I am alarmed and deeply concerned on a number of levels. Firstly, his arrogance. I can see why he & Hughes got on so well and why he would have kept Hughes on as manager. He thought the sun shone out of his sorry arse and they are both arrogant beyond belief .Hughes was far too comfortable and Scholes was given far too much trust and power and I believe that he has abused that. It was very much an old boys club. I accused him of complacency, negligence and being in denial. And of course knowing how much he loved Mark fucking Hughes and despised Tony Pulis, I took great pleasure in telling him a few home truths such as Hughes dined out on TP's foundations, the spine, the core of his squad. I always questioned (knew) whether Hughes was capable of building his own and he of course has answered that - is he fuck. Scholes said that we aim to perform a Newcastle and come straight back. How? I asked because they kept their team together more or less. We will sell Butland, Shawcross, Allen & Shaq. He couldn't wait to say yes. We're closer to Sunderland which he strongly refuted of course. We are in a mess from top to bottom and it's going to take some very strong leadership to sort this. I personally do not believe Coates should go but I do think that he should get rid of Scholes, Cartwright and sadly Lambert who inherited the appalling mess left by Mark arrogant, complacent, negligent, lazy, incompetent Hughes. Regarding Tony Pulis. My son is far more objective than me when it comes to the legend Tony Pulis. I am not and I never will be. Coates should have never parted company with Tp. He got rid of the wrong Tony and today is the result of that I'm afraid. What he should have done was back Tp properly and build an Everton under Moyes kind of Premiership club. Anyway, we've certainly reached that next level that certain people were crying out for haven't we? Unfortunately, it's a level down. Well done Mark, you arrogant bastard. Thank you Tony Pulis - LEGEND forever & always. Ripon This is only a personal opinion based upon nothing more than observation. IMHO I believe that Scholes is a well tuned political animal that planned and out manourvered Pulis by selling the idea of a model for self sufficiency through a floored transfer process to the Coates family, hence the appointment of Cartwright. It’s all if’s and but’s whether or not TP would still be here 5 years on. What is fact is that the floored transfer policy headed by the CEO and ably assisted by Cartwright is a significant component in our present position and relegation
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2018 7:48:09 GMT
Peter needs to step down as chairman. There's no need for any abuse or over the top criticism but now is the time to reflect on some of the poor decisions that he and the board have made. They have appointed two managers that have not gained the results required. He as chairman appointed them - both. He has overseen a dreadful recruitment policy that has seen us build one of the worst and unbalanced squads in recent times. He must carry the can, step down and allow another member of the board their chance to rectify the wrongs of this season - a complete fresh pair of eyes and ideas. We are desperate for a fresh direction and now, with so many of the first team leaving, is the one chance we will have to do it. I really don’t see another member of this present board being capable of rectifying all the wrongs of this season. We are desperate for a fresh direction from new owners with more ambition to compete at the top table. Problem is it’s stoke city. no other billionaire will want us. Coates family is the best we’ll ever do......tragically.
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Post by Veritas on May 6, 2018 8:37:21 GMT
Coates has done great things for our club and city. These last couple of years, he's failed to ensure Scholes and the recruitment staff do their job. He failed to ensure Mark Hughes avoided complacency. He failed to sack Hughes in the summer when he needed to go. He failed to give our number one management choice the money he was after. He then failed to appoint a manager good enough to keep us up. As a result, it is fair to ask for his removal. He has torn apart all that he has built up, and all the rivers of failure, be it Scholes penny pinching or Hughes' prolonged tenure, Coates is the source. Yes big mistakes have been made but without Coates we would be still in the third tier and most likely skint, he remains our best hope of being competitive next year.
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Post by scfcwebby on May 6, 2018 8:40:04 GMT
Coates has done great things for our club and city. These last couple of years, he's failed to ensure Scholes and the recruitment staff do their job. He failed to ensure Mark Hughes avoided complacency. He failed to sack Hughes in the summer when he needed to go. He failed to give our number one management choice the money he was after. He then failed to appoint a manager good enough to keep us up. As a result, it is fair to ask for his removal. He has torn apart all that he has built up, and all the rivers of failure, be it Scholes penny pinching or Hughes' prolonged tenure, Coates is the source. Yes big mistakes have been made but without Coates we would be still in the third tier and most likely skint, he remains our best hope of being competitive next year. We were in the second tier when he took back over, the Icelandics got us out of the third tier after the shambles the club was left in...
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Post by Block 22 on May 6, 2018 8:58:25 GMT
Everything Coates does is admirable other than the blind faith he shows in our top level staff. That has been the epitome of our demise. Lambert out, Scholes out, Cartwrong out.
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Post by premiershipteamfor10years on May 6, 2018 9:15:23 GMT
I really don’t see another member of this present board being capable of rectifying all the wrongs of this season. We are desperate for a fresh direction from new owners with more ambition to compete at the top table. Problem is it’s stoke city. no other billionaire will want us. Coates family is the best we’ll ever do......tragically. I am certain that we would be of great interest to other people with serious money and serious ambition. Wolves being a case in point.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2018 9:31:56 GMT
Problem is it’s stoke city. no other billionaire will want us. Coates family is the best we’ll ever do......tragically. I am certain that we would be of great interest to other people with serious money and serious ambition. Wolves being a case in point. I hope you’re right
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 6, 2018 9:41:07 GMT
I think people need to chill out a bit, those saying we've lacked spending need to take another look, we've spent its just that those in charge of spending it have fucked it up, you can blame Coates for taking too long to sack Hughes and then hiring Lambert but is that really worthy of calling for his head, personally I don't think so.
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on May 6, 2018 9:44:18 GMT
Ask Hull, Cardiff, and Blackpool about owners. I for one hope the Coates family own the club for generations to come.
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