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Post by chuckrocky on Apr 28, 2018 18:31:31 GMT
If we had gone gung ho like some on here wanted we would have lost and people on here would still be moaning. We had to keep it solid and try and nick something, which we almost did with Shawcross towards the end. How dare you make such an observation. You’re far to far over the head of some knowledgable posters (tacticians) on here In future behave yourself It’s a pretty shit observation because no one has suggested we should have gone gung ho.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Apr 28, 2018 18:36:11 GMT
How dare you make such an observation. You’re far to far over the head of some knowledgable posters (tacticians) on here In future behave yourself It’s a pretty shit observation because no one has suggested we should have gone gung ho. It’s an observation of some of the posters on here. I do apologise if I have offended you. The poster was bob on with his comment
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Post by shipshape on Apr 28, 2018 18:41:28 GMT
We nearly won it in the 89th minute. That’s great, one chance from a set piece, do we get any points for that? Yeah. We got one.
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Post by chuckrocky on Apr 28, 2018 18:42:28 GMT
It’s a pretty shit observation because no one has suggested we should have gone gung ho. It’s an observation of some of the posters on here. I do apologise if I have offended you. The poster was bob on with his comment Plenty would have preferred Ireland to come on instead of Fletcher to try and at least give Diouf some service, that’s not asking to go gung ho. It just seems that anyone who has dared suggest we could have maybe asked a few more questions of them is being shot down and being clueless and knowing nothing about football.
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Post by shipshape on Apr 28, 2018 18:47:45 GMT
It’s an observation of some of the posters on here. I do apologise if I have offended you. The poster was bob on with his comment Plenty would have preferred Ireland to come on instead of Fletcher to try and at least give Diouf some service, that’s not asking to go gung ho. It just seems that anyone who has dared suggest we could have maybe asked a few more questions of them is being shot down and being clueless and knowing nothing about football. Their strikers missed sitters. They should have had a penalty. We can't score. Yet we've gone there and gained a point. But of course a team that hasn't lost at home for a year were there for the taking. We come out of this weekend no worse off than we were. Still highly likely to go down. Very likely. Only tools could criticise that performance though given the severe limitations in that squad.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Apr 28, 2018 18:50:48 GMT
Plenty would have preferred Ireland to come on instead of Fletcher to try and at least give Diouf some service, that’s not asking to go gung ho. It just seems that anyone who has dared suggest we could have maybe asked a few more questions of them is being shot down and being clueless and knowing nothing about football. Their strikers missed sitters. They should have had a penalty. We can't score. Yet we've gone there and gained a point. But of course a team that hasn't lost at home for a year were there for the taking. We come out of this weekend no worse off than we were. Still highly likely to go down. Very likely. Only tools could criticise that performance though given the severe limitations in that squad. Thought it was a great point myself, no criticism from me today for that draw. The last 11 games however...
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Post by vahl on Apr 28, 2018 18:51:34 GMT
It’s an observation of some of the posters on here. I do apologise if I have offended you. The poster was bob on with his comment Plenty would have preferred Ireland to come on instead of Fletcher to try and at least give Diouf some service, that’s not asking to go gung ho. It just seems that anyone who has dared suggest we could have maybe asked a few more questions of them is being shot down and being clueless and knowing nothing about football. Woe Betide a Stoke team turns up at Anfield raring to go and ready to win. We should know our limitations in general but every now and again football throws you opportunities and today was one. Liverpool playing that badly at home with the away team getting every game changing decision (Ings may well have been onside for his goal and Salah, of all the players worldwide right now, misses a 1on1) should have seen us looking for a little bit more from our attacking play. That being said, if Shawcross didn't lunge for the ball backwards (and tries to shape his body forwards towards the ball, getting his weight behind it to direct it) we're sitting here buzzing on the end of a win. Otherwise today was pretty brilliant team performance wise.
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Post by Uncle cheese on Apr 28, 2018 18:53:05 GMT
We just HAD to win that game and Liverpool were there for the taking, yet we barely made it out of our own half second half. Only two subs made and the useless Shaqiri and Diouf lasted the full ninety minutes. What have we done to deserve Lambert AND Hughes in the same season? What we’ve done is have Peter Coates as a cheap as fuck chairman. Bottle job from top to bottom. Honestly listen to yourself without Coates we would be nowhere near the prem. were fucked because of piss poor investment. He’s pumped money in
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Post by shipshape on Apr 28, 2018 18:53:35 GMT
Their strikers missed sitters. They should have had a penalty. We can't score. Yet we've gone there and gained a point. But of course a team that hasn't lost at home for a year were there for the taking. We come out of this weekend no worse off than we were. Still highly likely to go down. Very likely. Only tools could criticise that performance though given the severe limitations in that squad. Thought it was a great point myself, no criticism from me today for that draw. The last 11 games however... Indeed. I couldn't agree more. But I was talking about the criticism that we didn't win away against the European Cup semi finalists who've scored something near 130 goals this season.
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Post by chuckrocky on Apr 28, 2018 19:00:16 GMT
Thought it was a great point myself, no criticism from me today for that draw. The last 11 games however... Indeed. I couldn't agree more. But I was talking about the criticism that we didn't win away against the European Cup semi finalists who've scored something near 130 goals this season. No one is saying we played poorly, no one is saying we SHOULD have won. We defiantly could have asked more questions of them though, without being reckless or losing our shape.
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Post by kjpt140v on Apr 28, 2018 19:07:34 GMT
Do you actually understand the game? Yes, the three teams with fewest points come the end of the season will be relegated. As things stand we are going to be one of those three teams. A win today would have given us two more points, therefore increasing our chances of survival. Simple, isn’t it? Dick head.
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Post by shipshape on Apr 28, 2018 19:10:05 GMT
Indeed. I couldn't agree more. But I was talking about the criticism that we didn't win away against the European Cup semi finalists who've scored something near 130 goals this season. No one is saying we played poorly, no one is saying we SHOULD have won. We defiantly could have asked more questions of them though, without being reckless or losing our shape. I heard they were "there for the taking". Surely we should have won then?
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Post by chuckrocky on Apr 28, 2018 19:16:20 GMT
No one is saying we played poorly, no one is saying we SHOULD have won. We defiantly could have asked more questions of them though, without being reckless or losing our shape. I heard they were "there for the taking". Surely we should have won then? Not ‘should’. We don’t have the devine right to win any match, especially not at Anfield. But there was defiantly an opportunity to pick up a win. We showed that when we did attack them that they could be got at, we just didn’t do it enough.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 21:16:21 GMT
I stopped reading at "Liverpool were there for the taking". They had two strikers on the pitch today who've scored nearly 70 goals between them this season, yet they were "there for the taking". Ridiculous. Did you watch the match? They were shit, Jack barely had a save to make and they never really looked like scoring. Under any other circumstance today would have been an excellent point. We needed the win though. Still we can all reminice of this magnificent point when we’re in the Championship next season. Jesus Hates Christ! Why do you think Jack hardly had a save to make?
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Post by chuckrocky on Apr 28, 2018 21:49:07 GMT
Did you watch the match? They were shit, Jack barely had a save to make and they never really looked like scoring. Under any other circumstance today would have been an excellent point. We needed the win though. Still we can all reminice of this magnificent point when we’re in the Championship next season. Jesus Hates Christ! Why do you think Jack hardly had a save to make? Because we defended excellently and they played like a team caught in between two massive European fixtures, what’s your point? I’m not knocking the team, more the managers lack of ambition in the last twenty minutes.
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Post by Bera’s Beano on May 3, 2018 9:40:52 GMT
What we’ve done is have Peter Coates as a cheap as fuck chairman. Bottle job from top to bottom. Honestly listen to yourself without Coates we would be nowhere near the prem. were fucked because of piss poor investment. He’s pumped money in Ok then, but in 6 months time we'll also be no where near the premier league either so we'll be exactly where we started. We got into the premier league through loaning players, which is the cheap option. Pulis did a great job of producing some shite football that got results, once the money was spent it was all wasted completely. Has been for a decade. Any mistake a manager makes after he has been given way too long in the job (Both Pulis and Hughes), every mistake Tony Scholes and Cartwright make who shouldn't be able to find a job they're so incompetent, their mistakes are Coates' mistake. Any side in the Championship can have a good season where if falls for you and you go up,(see Huddersfield and teams like Burnley when went up), it's not a miracle. How can the man in charge of all of the people making countless mistakes not be blamed for anything?
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Post by vahl on May 3, 2018 9:57:16 GMT
Honestly listen to yourself without Coates we would be nowhere near the prem. were fucked because of piss poor investment. He’s pumped money in Ok then, but in 6 months time we'll also be no where near the premier league either so we'll be exactly where we started. We got into the premier league through loaning players, which is the cheap option. Pulis did a great job of producing some shite football that got results, once the money was spent it was all wasted completely. Has been for a decade. Any mistake a manager makes after he has been given way too long in the job (Both Pulis and Hughes), every mistake Tony Scholes and Cartwright make who shouldn't be able to find a job they're so incompetent, their mistakes are Coates' mistake. Any side in the Championship can have a good season where if falls for you and you go up,(see Huddersfield and teams like Burnley when went up), it's not a miracle. How can the man in charge of all of the people making countless mistakes not be blamed for anything? Whilst Peter Coates is responsible for who works for the club, it's not all his own doing. He relies heavily on people doing the running for him, as any football club does and let's not forget he's an 80 year old man. There is just too many departments and too many people and you can't control it all. Running a football club relies a lot on good faith. Simply it's that he's left other people to their own devices in good faith and it's gone wrong. There is also an element of we wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him and his millions, he's a local man, he got it right before - he gets away with a few bad calls just for this and rightly so for me. The Lambert appointment is a different story because I can't defend or explain it.
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