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Post by mozzer on Apr 22, 2018 9:48:27 GMT
As a club we have gone through what can only be described as two years of total dog shit football and performances, in that time the crowd have in the main stayed on side even when the sacking of Hughes was being allowed to linger by the club,
Through my time supporting the club the crowd have always been the sort to be vocivourous in demanding actions from the demonstrations of sack the board under the leadership of Bill Asprey along with our disaster of a season getting relegated with the record of lowest ever points, the demise of Alan Ball at wigan away to the storming of the board room when getting knobed by Birmingham, yet this time it seems that the crowd have just accepted it and allowed it to happen without any murmur of a protest.
Why is this, Have we gone soft as a crowd now that we are more of a family club and all the anger is off set with a more restrained way of showing displeasure like leaving early, have we accepted that we are not a premier league outfit and as such we need a relegation to get the club back in shape.
Why have we decided to go down without a whimper of letting people know who is to blame or blatant targeted chanting
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Apr 22, 2018 9:53:56 GMT
Nearly half the crowd only turned up for Premiershit football! I guess they'll go and watch it somewhere else.
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Apr 22, 2018 9:56:03 GMT
As a club we have gone through what can only be described as two years of total dog shit football and performances, in that time the crowd have in the main stayed on side even when the sacking of Hughes was being allowed to linger by the club, Through my time supporting the club the crowd have always been the sort to be vocivourous in demanding actions from the demonstrations of sack the board under the leadership of Bill Asprey along with our disaster of a season getting relegated with the record of lowest ever points, the demise of Alan Ball at wigan away to the storming of the board room when getting knobed by Birmingham, yet this time it seems that the crowd have just accepted it and allowed it to happen without any murmur of a protest. Why is this, Have we gone soft as a crowd now that we are more of a family club and all the anger is off set with a more restrained way of showing displeasure like leaving early, have we accepted that we are not a premier league outfit and as such we need a relegation to get the club back in shape. Why have we decided to go down without a whimper of letting people know who is to blame or blatant targeted chanting I share your frustration. We’ve become a bunch of happy clappers, just sat there in silence doing nothing. A lot like our owners in fact. |
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Post by stokemark on Apr 22, 2018 9:59:36 GMT
As a club we have gone through what can only be described as two years of total dog shit football and performances, in that time the crowd have in the main stayed on side even when the sacking of Hughes was being allowed to linger by the club, Through my time supporting the club the crowd have always been the sort to be vocivourous in demanding actions from the demonstrations of sack the board under the leadership of Bill Asprey along with our disaster of a season getting relegated with the record of lowest ever points, the demise of Alan Ball at wigan away to the storming of the board room when getting knobed by Birmingham, yet this time it seems that the crowd have just accepted it and allowed it to happen without any murmur of a protest. Why is this, Have we gone soft as a crowd now that we are more of a family club and all the anger is off set with a more restrained way of showing displeasure like leaving early, have we accepted that we are not a premier league outfit and as such we need a relegation to get the club back in shape. Why have we decided to go down without a whimper of letting people know who is to blame or blatant targeted chanting Intrinsically I think the reason is who in reality do we protest against ? Peter Coates clearly backed the club up until a couple of years ago in a manner that we could only dream of back in the dark days and in reality he is our only hope going forward as there aren't t a queue of financial suitors desperate to pump billions into Stoke City are there ? The self sufficiency policy is at the root of the problems we have and yet we really have no alternative now than hope that the Coates family see the error of their ways and back the club again financially to ensure a swift return to the Premier League (albeit there are few signs of that at the moment and their faith in Lambert seems just a foolish and complacent as their faith in Mark Hughes. I expect things to turn really sour if by the middle of next season there is no sign of any ambition but until then what other options do supporters really have than hope that this season will provide the much needed shake up that is desperately required. |
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 22, 2018 10:02:05 GMT
As a club we have gone through what can only be described as two years of total dog shit football and performances, in that time the crowd have in the main stayed on side even when the sacking of Hughes was being allowed to linger by the club, Through my time supporting the club the crowd have always been the sort to be vocivourous in demanding actions from the demonstrations of sack the board under the leadership of Bill Asprey along with our disaster of a season getting relegated with the record of lowest ever points, the demise of Alan Ball at wigan away to the storming of the board room when getting knobed by Birmingham, yet this time it seems that the crowd have just accepted it and allowed it to happen without any murmur of a protest. Why is this, Have we gone soft as a crowd now that we are more of a family club and all the anger is off set with a more restrained way of showing displeasure like leaving early, have we accepted that we are not a premier league outfit and as such we need a relegation to get the club back in shape. Why have we decided to go down without a whimper of letting people know who is to blame or blatant targeted chanting I share your frustration. We’ve become a bunch of happy clappers, just sat there in silence doing nothing. A lot like our owners in fact. You only had to read the bullshit from the apologists on here to see what was going on, credit in the bank, 3 ninth place finish's, Hughes's teams start slowly, injuries, officials blah, blah, blah, coming from people who profess to be football experts they are a part of the problem. The fans have lost their identity and passion under Hughes and his tits. |
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Post by dingdongbell on Apr 22, 2018 10:03:43 GMT
Mozzer , I just think that there is an air of resignation amongst the fans , which has been festering for the last two years or so, the supporters have done their best to back the team , but sadly they have not reciprocated this, leading to a dip in the atmosphere . I personally think that the owners have backed the management, but appalling transfer business has dragged us down to where we are now . I don’t think the fans will turn on the owners but some players might get some deserved shit .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 10:10:18 GMT
People will vote with their feet
next season I expect attendances to be between 15 - 18,000 for typical home games in the championship
and if by some miracle we stay up ( very unlikely) the club will lose 3-5000 anyways
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Post by sutekh on Apr 22, 2018 10:31:01 GMT
The club is riddled with apathy from the boardroom down.
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Post by march4 on Apr 22, 2018 10:35:50 GMT
I fear Lambert is soon to be the subject of our overwhelming anger.
Although the next obvious step is a change in management, it is not fair on Lambert to single him out.
It is those who advise Peter Coates who need to go, irrespective of their seniority. Indeed, one could ask if they should be tendering their resignations in recognition of the disaster created during their tenure.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 10:36:12 GMT
The club is riddled with apathy from the boardroom down. Correct. Head-shaking disappointment is all that I have left in me, after this season.. |
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Apr 22, 2018 10:42:13 GMT
There needs to be a protest, or at least something that shows our displeasure with how the club has been run
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 10:46:33 GMT
There needs to be a protest, or at least something that shows our displeasure with how the club has been run Is it needed, really? |
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Post by kidcrewbob on Apr 22, 2018 10:57:04 GMT
No - the fans ARE the club and will continue as they have through thick and lots of thin over the years - will they turn on the current owners and their appointed incumbents - some will and have already.
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Post by kristoff on Apr 22, 2018 11:06:25 GMT
That match against Birmingham was my first match at he new stadium, was also my grandads first game as he’d had a load of health issue which means it was the first season he’d missed since Stans first term at Stoke.
So you can imagine how fondly I look back at those ‘protests’ that ended up giving an old man who’d followed Stoke his entire life a serious head injury, and also injuring time, my brother and a friend in the process.
Also our first season back in the Championship against Wolves, a ‘protest’ once again ended up with children getting hurt along with a Stoke support with a Dudley accent getting filled in inside the stadium because he asked some ‘protesters’ to lay off with the ra ist comments.
Just a couple of examples I witnessed. Those protests ripped the stadium to pieces, the surrounding area to pieces and they are what brought us ID Cards. You may love to see them return, but I’d see the club drop into non league before I’d back any of our supporters doing those kinda things to a fellow fan in the name of protesting.
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Post by march4 on Apr 22, 2018 17:29:03 GMT
There needs to be a protest, or at least something that shows our displeasure with how the club has been run Were there the starts of some chants towards the end of the game? |
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Post by werrington on Apr 22, 2018 17:30:23 GMT
There needs to be a protest, or at least something that shows our displeasure with how the club has been run Behave |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 17:35:59 GMT
As a club we have gone through what can only be described as two years of total dog shit football and performances, in that time the crowd have in the main stayed on side even when the sacking of Hughes was being allowed to linger by the club, Through my time supporting the club the crowd have always been the sort to be vocivourous in demanding actions from the demonstrations of sack the board under the leadership of Bill Asprey along with our disaster of a season getting relegated with the record of lowest ever points, the demise of Alan Ball at wigan away to the storming of the board room when getting knobed by Birmingham, yet this time it seems that the crowd have just accepted it and allowed it to happen without any murmur of a protest. Why is this, Have we gone soft as a crowd now that we are more of a family club and all the anger is off set with a more restrained way of showing displeasure like leaving early, have we accepted that we are not a premier league outfit and as such we need a relegation to get the club back in shape. Why have we decided to go down without a whimper of letting people know who is to blame or blatant targeted chanting There's been plenty of discontent from the fans throughout the season. The board, the media and the club all know how we feel. I don't see the point in doing any more than we have. If it gets to protesting etc that's just a bit embarrassing to be honest. |
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Post by cozmick on Apr 22, 2018 17:38:42 GMT
30,000 will become 15,000 come August
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Post by scfcwebby on Apr 22, 2018 17:39:18 GMT
There needs to be a protest, or at least something that shows our displeasure with how the club has been run Is it needed, really? Something needs to be done, not necessarily "a protest" but the board are sleepwalking and the club is rotting slowly Everybody can see it, it seems, except the people that need to see it |
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Post by chayzenbacon on Apr 22, 2018 17:42:10 GMT
The apathy today during the 2nd half and especially towards the end was beyond belief. It seemed that nobody was prepared to back the team and urge them on. Maybe that's understandable when the team is playing so badly and the crowd are all scratching their heads trying to work out what the fuck might be the manager's thinking behind his substitutions. So where was the anger? Nobody seems to give a shit at the game and then I come on here and apart from the odd lunatic still giving Lambert the benefit of the doubt most people are proper angry.
To avoid doubt, I was very angry and not shy about it. Which was no surprise to anyone who has sat anywhere near me for the last 21 years.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Apr 22, 2018 17:42:45 GMT
30,000 will become 15,000 come August Cuz tonight is the night when |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Apr 22, 2018 17:43:40 GMT
30,000 will become 15,000 come August Haven't we sold 18,000 early bird tickets? |
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Post by charlesjefferson on Apr 22, 2018 17:47:27 GMT
30,000 will become 15,000 come August Haven't we sold 18,000 early bird tickets? Yes but some people are seemingly adamant that if we go down then immediately our home attendance will drop to around 14,500. It's odd but there's none so blind as them what won't listen. |
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Post by lloydcolesguitar on Apr 22, 2018 17:48:32 GMT
30,000 will become 15,000 come August Good job we filled the corner in then |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 17:52:17 GMT
30,000 will become 15,000 come August Cuz tonight is the night when Bravo  |
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Apr 22, 2018 18:00:44 GMT
Something needs to be done, not necessarily "a protest" but the board are sleepwalking and the club is rotting slowly Everybody can see it, it seems, except the people that need to see it yeah, protest maybe a bit too far but we can't just sit there and pretend that this has just happened due to bad luck. We'll just continue to rot if that happens. |
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Post by stokeykez on Apr 22, 2018 18:11:03 GMT
The apathy today during the 2nd half and especially towards the end was beyond belief. It seemed that nobody was prepared to back the team and urge them on. Maybe that's understandable when the team is playing so badly and the crowd are all scratching their heads trying to work out what the fuck might be the manager's thinking behind his substitutions. So where was the anger? Nobody seems to give a shit at the game and then I come on here and apart from the odd lunatic still giving Lambert the benefit of the doubt most people are proper angry. To avoid doubt, I was very angry and not shy about it. Which was no surprise to anyone who has sat anywhere near me for the last 21 years. I shout and swear and eff and Jeff all throughout the match but all I get is stares and people turning round as though I'm a full on loon. I'm so angry but like others our feelings as fans is that now the club are so far detached from the feeling of the normal folk who pay their hard earned cash to sit and watch it's a pointless gesture. The board do not give a shit and all they do week in week out is give lip service to try and maintain the peace with its audience. If you protest and shout and gesticulate the main feeling is that it falls on deaf ears. Look at West ham they are in the same boat except when the fans do try and be heard and the only way is to cause a scene the fans get labelled as hooligans whilst the hierarchy sit in their ivory towers tutting at the frustrated behaviour of the common man. |
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Post by chayzenbacon on Apr 22, 2018 18:26:42 GMT
The apathy today during the 2nd half and especially towards the end was beyond belief. It seemed that nobody was prepared to back the team and urge them on. Maybe that's understandable when the team is playing so badly and the crowd are all scratching their heads trying to work out what the fuck might be the manager's thinking behind his substitutions. So where was the anger? Nobody seems to give a shit at the game and then I come on here and apart from the odd lunatic still giving Lambert the benefit of the doubt most people are proper angry. To avoid doubt, I was very angry and not shy about it. Which was no surprise to anyone who has sat anywhere near me for the last 21 years. I shout and swear and eff and Jeff all throughout the match but all I get is stares and people turning round as though I'm a full on loon. I'm so angry but like others our feelings as fans is that now the club are so far detached from the feeling of the normal folk who pay their hard earned cash to sit and watch it's a pointless gesture. The board do not give a shit and all they do week in week out is give lip service to try and maintain the peace with its audience. If you protest and shout and gesticulate the main feeling is that it falls on deaf ears. Look at West ham they are in the same boat except when the fans do try and be heard and the only way is to cause a scene the fans get labelled as hooligans whilst the hierarchy sit in their ivory towers tutting at the frustrated behaviour of the common man. I share your pain mate. To be fair to those around me most of them take it in good humour and my mates tell me to fuck off (mainly because at my age I should know better) and then we have a good laugh about in the pub when we get back home. We even managed a good laugh in the pub this afternoon when we got back, thanks to the most optimistic of them finally admitting that we're fucked. Mind you I'm still wondering when he's going to wake up and realise how shit Lambert is despite having a squad that is a fair bit stronger than Hughes' squad thanks to the additions of Bauer & Ndiaye. |
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 22, 2018 18:33:22 GMT
There needs to be a protest, or at least something that shows our displeasure with how the club has been run Behave What you got in mind then? Open top bus parade? They all need to realise what a colossal shit show they have presided over. |
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 22, 2018 18:38:25 GMT
30,000 will become 15,000 come August Haven't we sold 18,000 early bird tickets? Do they accept returns ? |
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