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Post by Absolution on Apr 17, 2018 19:26:10 GMT
...or the ball of wool he’s just thrown in front of him. At least we gave a fuck back then I agree mate. Just muckin’ about.
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Post by thegift on Apr 17, 2018 19:28:33 GMT
At least we gave a fuck back then I agree mate. Just muckin’ about. I get that, i also think pulls has a similar style to lambert, allardyce etc etc Keep it tight and nick a goal. I do think lambert has been unlucky and not fair to stump the blame on him. At least he seems genuine in his interviews and on the touch line, instead of seeing marks ugly mug repeating the word clearly all afternoon
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Post by thevoid on Apr 17, 2018 19:28:46 GMT
the reason nobody cares is because of the damage Arsole Wenger caused us with his constant slagging off ,plus Pulis hoof ball did us no favours and yes I wouldn't mind it at this min if we stayed up but then he is sacked once its over Theres a pulls fan in all of us, Ursem Depression can affect anyone.
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Post by thegift on Apr 17, 2018 19:31:30 GMT
Theres a pulls fan in all of us, Ursem Depression can affect anyone. Pretty sure the majority of stoke fans are more depressed now than they ever were under TP
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Post by ursemboys on Apr 17, 2018 19:32:34 GMT
Theres a pulls fan in all of us, Ursem If that’s true, he’s definitely entered without permission. we where all fans at one point (I cannot forgive him for turning us down for Bristol City bigger club my arse) I did say I wouldn't mind at the min but then sack the f**ker once we are safe lol
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Post by ursemboys on Apr 17, 2018 19:37:33 GMT
I agree mate. Just muckin’ about. I get that, i also think pulls has a similar style to lambert, allardyce etc etc Keep it tight and nick a goal. I do think lambert has been unlucky and not fair to stump the blame on him. At least he seems genuine in his interviews and on the touch line, instead of seeing marks ugly mug repeating the word clearly all afternoon Jesus Gif this is getting to much now , I find I agree with you again .I think Lambert deserves a chance bring his own players in next season ,we aint got nowt lose at the min unless the board have a plan to bring someone else in ,but fair play to Lambert its been very difficult to turn this shit around with what he has been left with . my one question for the board is ...........do you really think we didn't need a striker when Diouf was our star striker
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Post by Absolution on Apr 17, 2018 19:39:10 GMT
I agree mate. Just muckin’ about. I get that, i also think pulls has a similar style to lambert, allardyce etc etc Keep it tight and nick a goal. I do think lambert has been unlucky and not fair to stump the blame on him. At least he seems genuine in his interviews and on the touch line, instead of seeing marks ugly mug repeating the word clearly all afternoon I’m getting mixed messages from you about Lambert, gifty. My view is that the defence were shit because they’d had no coaching and the forward line were shit because there’s no consistent goalscorer among them. He can coach the defence, and he has, but he can’t magic up a forward line. The midfield was a mess and it was widely accepted that none of the parts fitted together, but he’s getting a bit more from them than before, possibly because Badou is settling in bit by bit. I think he’s fixed or is fixing the things that he can. The things that he can’t are killing us. I’m reserving judgement on him til the end of the season as to whether we should keep him on.
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Post by thegift on Apr 17, 2018 19:40:42 GMT
I get that, i also think pulls has a similar style to lambert, allardyce etc etc Keep it tight and nick a goal. I do think lambert has been unlucky and not fair to stump the blame on him. At least he seems genuine in his interviews and on the touch line, instead of seeing marks ugly mug repeating the word clearly all afternoon Jesus Gif this is getting to much now , I find I agree with you again .I think Lambert deserves a chance bring his own players in next season ,we aint got nowt lose at the min unless the board have a plan to bring someone else in ,but fair play to Lambert its been very difficult to turn this shit around with what he has been left with . my one question for the board is ...........do you really think we didn't need a striker when Diouf was our star striker 100000% its obvious we needed a striker. Everyone doesn't get everything right. I did think diouf had it in him to score 2/3 goals. But he's been abysmal.
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Post by thegift on Apr 17, 2018 19:43:44 GMT
I get that, i also think pulls has a similar style to lambert, allardyce etc etc Keep it tight and nick a goal. I do think lambert has been unlucky and not fair to stump the blame on him. At least he seems genuine in his interviews and on the touch line, instead of seeing marks ugly mug repeating the word clearly all afternoon I’m getting mixed messages from you about Lambert, gifty. My view is that the defence were shit because they’d had no coaching and the forward line were shit because there’s no consistent goalscorer among them. He can coach the defence, and he has, but he can’t magic up a forward line. The midfield was a mess and it was widely accepted that none of the parts fitted together, but he’s getting a bit more from them than before, possibly because Badou is settling in bit by bit. I think he’s fixed or is fixing the things that he can. The things that he can’t are killing us. I’m reserving judgement on him til the end of the season as to whether we should keep him on. ill be honest mate, one week I'm happy with lambert, one week I'm not. I still can't make my mind up on him, which seems to be the case among alot of supporters. I didn't want him when he joined, i then supported him and thought we were onto a real good run when he won his first game in charge. Then it went downhill. But were playing better and have won 1 in 11. I'm not quite sure how its possible to be better but lose more. Its a weird one. Its very difficult to judge him i think based on the situation we have been left in. Very similar with Ndiaye. One week i think he's superb, another week i think he is a passenger.
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Post by numpty40 on Apr 17, 2018 19:45:38 GMT
I agree mate. Just muckin’ about. I get that, i also think pulls has a similar style to lambert, allardyce etc etc Keep it tight and nick a goal. I do think lambert has been unlucky and not fair to stump the blame on him. At least he seems genuine in his interviews and on the touch line, instead of seeing marks ugly mug repeating the word clearly all afternoon He's not won a game in 10, yes that's right not a win in 10 that included games against Bournemouth, Watford, Brighton, Everton, Leicester, Southampton and West Ham. Just look at that for one moment. Hughes was got us into the mess, Lambert has consolidated that mess.
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Post by thegift on Apr 17, 2018 19:48:23 GMT
I get that, i also think pulls has a similar style to lambert, allardyce etc etc Keep it tight and nick a goal. I do think lambert has been unlucky and not fair to stump the blame on him. At least he seems genuine in his interviews and on the touch line, instead of seeing marks ugly mug repeating the word clearly all afternoon He's not won a game in 10, yes that's right not a win in 10 that included games against Bournemouth, Watford, Brighton, Everton, Leicester, Southampton and West Ham. Just look at that for one moment. Hughes was got us into the mess, Lambert has consolidated that mess. Surely you feel he has made us tighter at the back, better performances though, right? I know performances don't win you games but if it wasn't for silly errors we could of had another 7 points (Leicester, Everton and Brighton) I'm speaking to my old man about it, and saying your better at something but being worse off, logically doesn't make sense. But that's how we find ourselves. He's also stopped us being absolutely embarrassed with 4-0 results week in week out. Make of that as you will
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Post by Absolution on Apr 17, 2018 19:49:14 GMT
I’m getting mixed messages from you about Lambert, gifty. My view is that the defence were shit because they’d had no coaching and the forward line were shit because there’s no consistent goalscorer among them. He can coach the defence, and he has, but he can’t magic up a forward line. The midfield was a mess and it was widely accepted that none of the parts fitted together, but he’s getting a bit more from them than before, possibly because Badou is settling in bit by bit. I think he’s fixed or is fixing the things that he can. The things that he can’t are killing us. I’m reserving judgement on him til the end of the season as to whether we should keep him on. ill be honest mate, one week I'm happy with lambert, one week I'm not. I still can't make my mind up on him, which seems to be the case among alot of supporters. I didn't want him when he joined, i then supported him and thought we were onto a real good run when he won his first game in charge. Then it went downhill. But were playing better and have won 1 in 11. I'm not quite sure how its possible to be better but lose more. Its a weird one. Its very difficult to judge him i think based on the situation we have been left in. Very similar with Ndiaye. One week i think he's superb, another week i think he is a passenger. Yep, agree with all that. N’diaye had been ordinary up to the Tottenham game where I thought we started to see what it was that someone from our cast of thousands had scouted, then apparently he was our MotM last night. I’m starting to think him and Bauer are the two players we really need to make sure we hold onto next season.
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Post by thegift on Apr 17, 2018 19:50:31 GMT
ill be honest mate, one week I'm happy with lambert, one week I'm not. I still can't make my mind up on him, which seems to be the case among alot of supporters. I didn't want him when he joined, i then supported him and thought we were onto a real good run when he won his first game in charge. Then it went downhill. But were playing better and have won 1 in 11. I'm not quite sure how its possible to be better but lose more. Its a weird one. Its very difficult to judge him i think based on the situation we have been left in. Very similar with Ndiaye. One week i think he's superb, another week i think he is a passenger. Yep, agree with all that. N’diaye had been ordinary up to the Tottenham game where I thought we started to see what it was that someone from our cast of thousands had scouted, then apparently he was our MotM last night. I’m starting to think him and Bauer are the two players we really need to make sure we hold onto next season. Bauer is absolutely, hands down, our best player right now
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Post by numpty40 on Apr 17, 2018 19:52:32 GMT
He's not won a game in 10, yes that's right not a win in 10 that included games against Bournemouth, Watford, Brighton, Everton, Leicester, Southampton and West Ham. Just look at that for one moment. Hughes was got us into the mess, Lambert has consolidated that mess. Surely you feel he has made us tighter at the back, better performances though, right? I know performances don't win you games but if it wasn't for silly errors we could of had another 7 points (Leicester, Everton and Brighton) I'm speaking to my old man about it, and saying your better at something but being worse off, logically doesn't make sense. But that's how we find ourselves. No, he's just put everyone behind the ball and the plan is to launch it and hope the pace of Diouf and the skill of Shaq may produce something. It's shit football practiced by dinosaur managers.
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Post by theplantpotter on Apr 17, 2018 19:52:45 GMT
So, we finally had the corner filled in, seemingly at the cost of losing our Premier League position.
Not a very good swap
Will we ever see it full again
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Post by spiderpuss on Apr 17, 2018 19:57:05 GMT
If we think this level of "news" is bad, we've got a rude awakening in Colin Murray's Channel 5 coverage. Make sure you don't blink, is all I can say.
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Post by thegift on Apr 17, 2018 19:58:56 GMT
Surely you feel he has made us tighter at the back, better performances though, right? I know performances don't win you games but if it wasn't for silly errors we could of had another 7 points (Leicester, Everton and Brighton) I'm speaking to my old man about it, and saying your better at something but being worse off, logically doesn't make sense. But that's how we find ourselves. No, he's just put everyone behind the ball and the plan is to launch it and hope the pace of Diouf and the skill of Shaq may produce something. It's shit football practiced by dinosaur managers. I can't disagree with that, but what do you expect when we don't have any strikers mate? Nicking 1-0 wins or 1-1 all draws by putting men behind the ball is better than losing 4-0 week in week out
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Post by thevoid on Apr 17, 2018 19:59:32 GMT
Depression can affect anyone. Pretty sure the majority of stoke fans are more depressed now than they ever were under TP I'm pretty sure the majority of those people don't want him back though.
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Post by thegift on Apr 17, 2018 20:00:58 GMT
Pretty sure the majority of stoke fans are more depressed now than they ever were under TP I'm pretty sure the majority of those people don't want him back though. Not what i said though
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Post by drfootball on Apr 17, 2018 20:06:46 GMT
We live in Stoke, if Padstow or Penzance had a team the press would be spurting all over them. I live near both and they both have teams,frankly they're not very good and even the local press doesn't spurt over them 😉
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Post by swampySCFC on Apr 17, 2018 20:09:25 GMT
Coates has just sat back and calmly watched all this shit develop.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Apr 17, 2018 20:12:51 GMT
This is a great question posed by the OP - I think it sums up the main source of frustration for me in that we are sliding out of the top tier with a whimper and not even a hint of a shit-or-bust bang - it's a sad observation that we are indeed going to go down very anonymously and all the hard work put in previously to survive against the odds in the main are going to amount for fuck all in the end - we all know that 3 have to go every year but with the backing and resources we have had at our disposal has not helped us to avoid this humiliation - this will haunt Coates to the grave.
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Post by numpty40 on Apr 17, 2018 20:15:35 GMT
No, he's just put everyone behind the ball and the plan is to launch it and hope the pace of Diouf and the skill of Shaq may produce something. It's shit football practiced by dinosaur managers. I can't disagree with that, but what do you expect when we don't have any strikers mate? Nicking 1-0 wins or 1-1 all draws by putting men behind the ball is better than losing 4-0 week in week out Even managers/coaches of non league, league 1 and league 2 sides can set their sides up to frustrate better sides. They'll very rarely win but they won't be thrashed. That is what we have become since Lambert took charge. Last night we were fucking awful, a must win game and we were hanging for dear life against relegation rivals. Many on here say we've improved since Lambert took over, I beg to differ.
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Post by stokemark on Apr 17, 2018 20:17:15 GMT
I can't disagree with that, but what do you expect when we don't have any strikers mate? Nicking 1-0 wins or 1-1 all draws by putting men behind the ball is better than losing 4-0 week in week out Even managers/coaches of non league, league 1 and league 2 sides can set their sides up to frustrate better sides. They'll very rarely win but they won't be thrashed. That is what we have become since Lambert took charge. Last night we were fucking awful, a must win game and we were hanging for dear life against relegation rivals. Many on here say we've improved since Lambert took over, I beg to differ. I agree bud
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Apr 17, 2018 20:17:33 GMT
No one gives a shit about West Brom. No one gave a shit about Hull or Middlesbrough last season either. It happens..... Correct. I knew Boro had gone down but can't even remember Hull being in the league last year!
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Post by smallthorner on Apr 17, 2018 20:24:23 GMT
We live in Stoke, if Padstow or Penzance had a team the press would be spurting all over them. I live near both and they both have teams,frankly they're not very good and even the local press doesn't spurt over them 😉 Do you know Rick Stein? 😁
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Post by potterblade on Apr 17, 2018 20:29:12 GMT
No one gives a shit about West Brom. No one gave a shit about Hull or Middlesbrough last season either. It happens..... Correct. I knew Boro had gone down but can't even remember Hull being in the league last year! Noone gives a shit when clubs our size get promoted either and Boro is an excellent example. You seen that ITV quiz show tenable? With Warwick 'lifes too short' Davies? Anyway there was a question, name the last 10 teams to get promoted to the Prem. The 10th one going back they wanted the play off winner not the 1st place team for whatever reason. Anyway I got 7, the lad who was taking the question got 8 (fair play) but Boro was one I didn't get even though it only happened a year ago. Their campaign last year was a total ghostie. Also if we don't bounce back pretty quick I think our decade up there will be forgotten just as quick. Little old Stoke indeed.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 17, 2018 20:39:49 GMT
I'm pretty sure the majority of those people don't want him back though. Not what i said though If you could manage a full day on here without mentioning TP it'd be appreciated.
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Post by thegift on Apr 17, 2018 20:41:35 GMT
If you could manage a full day on here without mentioning TP it'd be appreciated. Half the time i don't bring him up
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Post by Absolution on Apr 17, 2018 20:45:42 GMT
If you could manage a full day on here without mentioning TP it'd be appreciated. Half the time i don't bring him up You do mate. It’s like Tourette’s.
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