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Post by malteser68 on Apr 14, 2018 19:01:22 GMT
After Today’s results bottom 3 are doomed
No way back for any of them
Hughes will have the dubious honour of having relegated 2 teams in one season
The clueless twat
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Post by GoBoks on Apr 14, 2018 19:06:31 GMT
After Today’s results bottom 3 are doomed No way back for any of them Hughes will have the dubious honour of having relegated 2 teams in one season The clueless twat I beg to differ. Bottom, Third from Bottom and Huddersfield doomed!
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Post by march4 on Apr 14, 2018 19:08:34 GMT
I can’t believe Swansea aren’t in deeper trouble.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 19:11:53 GMT
I can’t believe Swansea aren’t in deeper trouble.
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Apr 14, 2018 19:19:18 GMT
The only plus point from today is most of these players can fuck off and never be seen in the red and white again!
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Post by wilcopotter on Apr 14, 2018 19:32:22 GMT
I can’t believe Swansea aren’t in deeper trouble. I look at a few clubs and think that. Can’t believe we’ve been allowed to go from such a stable position to this so swiftly.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Apr 14, 2018 19:50:32 GMT
Look at Brighton's run in and then think back to Adam's penalty miss. Massive. Mind you we'd still have to win 2 games.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 19:56:18 GMT
We will scrape through & survive.
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Post by Gifton on Apr 14, 2018 20:04:11 GMT
I honestly don't think Brighton will pick up another point.
Neither us or Saints look capable of taking advantage however...
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Post by stokemark on Apr 14, 2018 20:12:44 GMT
We will scrape through & survive. We won't
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 14, 2018 20:14:05 GMT
Don’t worry everyone 34 points will be enough
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 20:17:58 GMT
Don’t worry everyone 34 points will be enough ??
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Post by mrred on Apr 14, 2018 20:24:39 GMT
Yeah there's one saving grace that Hughes will have relegated 2 clubs. Useless, feckless prick and all that came with him. And all that he's left behind.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 20:24:49 GMT
Don’t worry everyone 34 points will be enough 100% agree, sadly we’ll end up on 31 max.
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 14, 2018 20:31:17 GMT
Don’t worry everyone 34 points will be enough 100% agree, sadly we’ll end up on 31 max. It was sarcasm, based on people repeating this delusion as recently as last week. You think Swansea will now lose every one of their remaining games?
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Post by potter25 on Apr 14, 2018 20:49:31 GMT
Shit or bust Monday
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Post by basingstokie on Apr 14, 2018 20:51:51 GMT
Don’t worry everyone 34 points will be enough You're right. But we won't get 34, sadly. On paper we could/should get 8-10 points from our run in, but the game isn't played on paper and we have consistently played well below the level that our players alleged ability would suggest they are capable of.
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Post by exiledpotter on Apr 14, 2018 20:55:44 GMT
I still think it will come down to the last game of the season ... I originally thought we would need a point; now we will almost certainly need a win and possibly someone else to do us a favour too.
That said, there is still hope and the fight (people seem to think we are getting better) goes on.
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Post by that's our Ric on Apr 14, 2018 21:20:12 GMT
The only plus point from today is most of these players can fuck off and never be seen in the red and white again! Not with their big contracts and Coates self sufficiency aim
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Post by nonameface on Apr 14, 2018 21:22:40 GMT
I still think it will come down to the last game of the season ... I originally thought we would need a point; now we will almost certainly need a win and possibly someone else to do us a favour too. That said, there is still hope and the fight (people seem to think we are getting better) goes on. We need 10 points from 5 games; no chance.
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Post by that's our Ric on Apr 14, 2018 21:24:19 GMT
I does make me laugh all this fretting about other team results when we've won the sum total of one game under Lambert. And now we need to suddenly win 3 😃😂
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Post by blade on Apr 14, 2018 21:55:16 GMT
Massive mismanagement at the club fired by complacency from top to bottom. Thinking that top half finishes were a given, last seasons woeful finale showed that the current season was always going to be a struggle.
Fortress 365 was breached too many times and the clubs away form has always been abysmal. Mark Hughes was left to dither and the appointment of Lambert a big gamble at the wrong end of the season. I am sure that if PL had been given a shot much earlier some of the awful signings would never have happened.
Blame the executives for the likes of Jesé and Berahino whose only ambition seems to be picking up large wages for doing absolutely nothing. You've got players breaking curfews and committing other indiscretions which makes the present plight much harder to bear for hard working and loyal supporters.
Compare these slackers with the departed Whelan and Walters , and on a good day Arnautovic and you get a measure of the loss to gain ratio.
Stoke are lucky that they bought well under Pulis and built well from the back. I reckon LMH moved the club forward after TP but tended to lose any perspective when the going got tough. If the club perform a miracle and survive they will still be faced with no proper team structure and yet another major struggle in the EPL. The ambitions and potential of the club will not be enough to satisfy the likes of Butland and Shaqiri and without them even The Championship seems daunting.
However I reckon the board have the wherewithal to allow a manager to weed out the crap and build again, but the Premiership is a lottery for minnows like Stoke, Burnley, Watford, Brighton, Swansea and other survivors. I have always looked at the fixture list and wondered where Stoke could get three points from and this has come to be.
Hopefully the Coates family remain at the helm and give the manager the authority to clear the decks and start to instil a passion and vision for next season. Whoever is to blame for the last two seasons should face the consequences like LMH Start now and sack Jesé and Berahino for unprofessional beahaviour.
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 14, 2018 22:06:25 GMT
I can’t believe Swansea aren’t in deeper trouble. I look at a few clubs and think that. Can’t believe we’ve been allowed to go from such a stable position to this so swiftly. I doubt we were ever in a very stable position. I heard somewhere today a pundit lauding the achievements of Swansea (Football Focus I think). They were saying they have been in the Prem for 8 years as though it was something special. Since we were promoted, every team that was in the Prem when we joined has been relegated apart from Everton and the "big 6" clubs. It is clear no one outside of the top 6 with their huge spending power is in "a stable position". Everton were very shaky at the start of this season, despite massive spending in the summer. I watched quite a bit of the Huddersfield v Watford match today and thought what rubbish those 2 teams were today.
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Post by pottersrule on Apr 14, 2018 22:14:13 GMT
100% agree, sadly we’ll end up on 31 max. It was sarcasm, based on people repeating this delusion as recently as last week. You think Swansea will now lose every one of their remaining games? They won't lose their last.
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Post by jebbstuart on Apr 14, 2018 22:24:27 GMT
wake up!!! we been relegation material all season why are people still surprised??
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 14, 2018 22:24:59 GMT
Massive mismanagement at the club fired by complacency from top to bottom. Thinking that top half finishes were a given, last seasons woeful finale showed that the current season was always going to be a struggle. Fortress 365 was breached too many times and the clubs away form has always been abysmal. Mark Hughes was left to dither and the appointment of Lambert a big gamble at the wrong end of the season. I am sure that if PL had been given a shot much earlier some of the awful signings would never have happened. Blame the executives for the likes of Jesé and Berahino whose only ambition seems to be picking up large wages for doing absolutely nothing. You've got players breaking curfews and committing other indiscretions which makes the present plight much harder to bear for hard working and loyal supporters. Compare these slackers with the departed Whelan and Walters , and on a good day Arnautovic and you get a measure of the loss to gain ratio. Stoke are lucky that they bought well under Pulis and built well from the back. I reckon LMH moved the club forward after TP but tended to lose any perspective when the going got tough. If the club perform a miracle and survive they will still be faced with no proper team structure and yet another major struggle in the EPL. The ambitions and potential of the club will not be enough to satisfy the likes of Butland and Shaqiri and without them even The Championship seems daunting. However I reckon the board have the wherewithal to allow a manager to weed out the crap and build again, but the Premiership is a lottery for minnows like Stoke, Burnley, Watford, Brighton, Swansea and other survivors. I have always looked at the fixture list and wondered where Stoke could get three points from and this has come to be. Hopefully the Coates family remain at the helm and give the manager the authority to clear the decks and start to instil a passion and vision for next season. Whoever is to blame for the last two seasons should face the consequences like LMH Start now and sack Jesé and Berahino for unprofessional beahaviour. We do have short memories and remember things the way we like to think they were. In Pulis's last season we didn't have a decent FB and this MB was screaming every week about Wilson and Cameron and our deficiency in those positions. The first thing Hughes did was buy a LB and 2 RBs followed. Do we remember Upson and Woodgate? Built well? The Hughes era started slowly (as did each MH season) and improved over the first couple of years. In the end the Spanish experiment failed because those players were not robust enough for the physicality of the Prem. We went through a dreadful injury period at one point. But what scuppered Hughes in the end was: 1. Lack of thorough pre-season preparation. 2. Lack of fitness. 3. Lack of attention to defending and set piece play. 4. Desperately poor player purchases bar a few exceptions. Many would add team and substitute selection, but then most fans think they know more than the manager in that respect.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 22:25:40 GMT
It ain't over 'till the fat lady sings, however she is backstage warming up.
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Apr 14, 2018 22:26:52 GMT
Firstly, I think we’re down, it’d need a remarkable upturn in results for us to stay up.
That said, there’s always one team who’re rooted in the bottom three and worm their way out at the last minute. Just like Brighton aren’t likely to get another point, we have comparatively more favourable fixtures and we need 3 wins.
Way back when, when West Ham had just been relegated and had the likes of Defoe, Sheringham, Etherington, Hutchison etc we went and weathered the storm with Frazer Richardson popping up. There’s no reason why we can’t go and keep it tight and see Diouf scuff one in. We have a decent record in East London.
Then we need 2 home wins. It really is doable.
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Apr 14, 2018 22:27:45 GMT
I’m sorry but I have simmering anger for Adam , Jese and Butland I just can’t help it !
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 14, 2018 22:46:15 GMT
I look at a few clubs and think that. Can’t believe we’ve been allowed to go from such a stable position to this so swiftly. I doubt we were ever in a very stable position. I heard somewhere today a pundit lauding the achievements of Swansea (Football Focus I think). They were saying they have been in the Prem for 8 years as though it was something special. Since we were promoted, every team that was in the Prem when we joined has been relegated apart from Everton and the "big 6" clubs. It is clear no one outside of the top 6 with their huge spending power is in "a stable position". Everton were very shaky at the start of this season, despite massive spending in the summer. I watched quite a bit of the Huddersfield v Watford match today and thought what rubbish those 2 teams were today. Surely this is an argument that we *were* pretty stable, relatively at least. Outside the top six, Everton and Stoke, something like 26 different teams have occupied the other 12 spots in the division since we came up.
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