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Post by GeneralFaye on May 19, 2018 11:12:44 GMT
If the brief is to get out us promoted out of The Championship in the quickest time frame then McCarthy is an extremely serious runner and a far safer appointment then many above him in the betting market. It's pure footballing snobbery to dismiss him out of hand over the likes of Potter, Bould etc and he has far more on the CV than Rowett. Tbf to Mick, year after year at Ipswich he was given one of the lowest budgets in the league yet they never flirted with relegation and were equally never that far from the play offs so proves he does know what he's doing. However, I'm hoping we are going to seriously back the new manager with big money and I don't know what Mick is like in that scenario. He strikes me as a Pulis type, excellent with a budget but when you give him the tools to go to the next level I'm not sure he can do it.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 11:15:46 GMT
If the brief is to get out us promoted out of The Championship in the quickest time frame then McCarthy is an extremely serious runner and a far safer appointment then many above him in the betting market. It's pure footballing snobbery to dismiss him out of hand over the likes of Potter, Bould etc and he has far more on the CV than Rowett. Tbf to Mick, year after year at Ipswich he was given one of the lowest budgets in the league yet they never flirted with relegation and were equally never that far from the play offs so proves he does know what he's doing. However, I'm hoping we are going to seriously back the new manager with big money and I don't know what Mick is like in that scenario. He strikes me as a Pulis type, excellent with a budget but when you give him the tools to go to the next level I'm not sure he can do it. Unless you pair him with a top-drawer recruiter. Then he outlines the types of player he wants, and the recruiter sorts it. Right now we haven't got that. So I share your concern. Us just 'being an Ipswich' isn't what we're after is it?
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Post by thevoid on May 19, 2018 11:16:27 GMT
I'd hope the brief extends beyond promotion and then getting skittled with 25 points next season. Otherwise what's the point? We need a long-term strategy. I tend to agree, that a serious decision would have to be made if he got us up but in terms of getting us up I really am failing to see anyone on the list who is obviously better equipped to do it. Not my first choice, I'd get off the merry go round and go for the lad from Wigan but to paint McCarthy as some kind of crank is far from the truth. I'd be over the moon with Cook, he looks the business and seems like he fosters a good team spirit. I know MM has his merits at Championship level but my main concerns are: 1. He's out of his depth in the league above, and; 2. There's no way our current owners would replace a promotion winning manager.
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Post by chigstoke on May 19, 2018 11:29:26 GMT
Tbf to Mick, year after year at Ipswich he was given one of the lowest budgets in the league yet they never flirted with relegation and were equally never that far from the play offs so proves he does know what he's doing. However, I'm hoping we are going to seriously back the new manager with big money and I don't know what Mick is like in that scenario. He strikes me as a Pulis type, excellent with a budget but when you give him the tools to go to the next level I'm not sure he can do it. Unless you pair him with a top-drawer recruiter. Then he outlines the types of player he wants, and the recruiter sorts it. Right now we haven't got that. So I share your concern. Us just 'being an Ipswich' isn't what we're after is it? Top-drawer recruiter? Why, we have the Mark 'mighty' Cartwright!
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 19, 2018 11:31:29 GMT
Unless you pair him with a top-drawer recruiter. Then he outlines the types of player he wants, and the recruiter sorts it. Right now we haven't got that. So I share your concern. Us just 'being an Ipswich' isn't what we're after is it? Top-drawer recruiter? Why, we have the Mark 'mighty' Cartwright! The guy who either does nothing or the manager before last didn't listen to.. perfect for our club isn't he!
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Post by crapslinger on May 19, 2018 19:12:02 GMT
Another Wolves cast off/failure God no I would rather go for Pearson. Pearson, you are joking surely. Errmmmmm no I am not, we need someone who can sort this fucking mess out including the work shy idle wasters we have on our books, he would certainly do that
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on May 19, 2018 19:17:12 GMT
It's gonna be Mick, isn't it? Quite like him as a guy, but I'm unsure of him as a manager.
Guessing the kind of character Mick is, I can definitely see him making the club known of his interest when Lambert was sacked and I think the board will like that (as they did with Lambert...eventually)
He had a tough job at Ipswich last season, I'm not sure. I just really don't know.
QSF? Moyes? Allardyce? Rowett? Mccarthy? Potter? - At this stage, I'm just relieved it's not going to be Lambert - but we have to get this right. I'd love for us to go for a younger manager who can set out a long-term plan, but I think with the way the chips have fallen for the next two seasons we've got to look short term and just go for promotion by hook or by crook. If we don't come up after that, then I think we look at a younger manager who can try and build his own squad etc.
I just really don't know. I think I'd be ok with Mick.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 19, 2018 19:26:20 GMT
West Ham get relegated and appoint Allardyce , Newcastle appoint and keep Benitez , we declare intent and appoint ? If it’s mad mick the writing is firmly on the wall
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Post by liathroid on May 19, 2018 19:27:03 GMT
no thanks
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Post by cousindupree on May 19, 2018 19:32:11 GMT
He wouldn't be my choice but he is probably just about the most experienced Champs manager around. He must know this league inside out and has really not had a crack with some financial backing. If the board go cheap then he is imho a better bet than Potter or Pearson or even Rowett.
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Post by GallysGuitar on May 19, 2018 20:06:40 GMT
Being born in Ipswich, a lot of my friends are Ipswich fans and I know the club quite well.
MM ended up being more divisive than Pulis. His tactics were so attritional (I think they went five home games without scoring) that the fans eventually turned and hounded him out. It was a really toxic ending. Attendances were also at their lowest since Burley took over.
Saying all that, he did a very good job on a very very tight budget, getting them to the play-offs one season, but it was never pretty.
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Post by potter25 on May 19, 2018 20:44:20 GMT
I can’t see Berahino and Mick getting on all that well...
Funny though see what happens
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Post by kjpt140v on May 19, 2018 22:54:09 GMT
Pearson, you are joking surely. Errmmmmm no I am not, we need someone who can sort this fucking mess out including the work shy idle wasters we have on our books, he would certainly do that And where is he setting the world on fire at the moment?
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Post by thegift on May 20, 2018 3:16:56 GMT
Errmmmmm no I am not, we need someone who can sort this fucking mess out including the work shy idle wasters we have on our books, he would certainly do that And where is he setting the world on fire at the moment? Pearson is a great manager
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 5:02:35 GMT
I can't see it being him - why would you sack Lambert and appoint his Yorkshire doppelganger?🤔
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Post by Trouserdog on May 20, 2018 6:38:54 GMT
On zero money, McCarthy's basically kept Ipswich in a mid-table position in a league of clubs awash with parachute payments.
I don't think he's done a bad job there and he certainly knows the league. There's others I'd have before him, but I don't think he'd stand for any fucking about and there's definitely worse appointments we could make.
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Post by biglad180 on May 20, 2018 6:56:53 GMT
hope not he as had is day. not good enough like many of these managers mentioned just another one doing the rounds. we need someone who will give us a big lift. we don't need kicking while we are down.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on May 20, 2018 6:57:34 GMT
Let’s ask Roy Keane what he thinks of Mick😂
Actually let’s get Keane and McCarthy as joint managers, might as well split the club in half straight away,.
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Post by crapslinger on May 20, 2018 8:34:08 GMT
Errmmmmm no I am not, we need someone who can sort this fucking mess out including the work shy idle wasters we have on our books, he would certainly do that And where is he setting the world on fire at the moment? Did I say he was ? who would you have ? come on head above the parapet time.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on May 20, 2018 9:58:02 GMT
Actually done ok at Ipswich with no money takes no shit knows championship like back of his hand , with the win in his favour could do ok . Seems people take against him yet prefer Rowett who doesn't really play differently or proven anything yet.
Not sure either are much of an uplift on Lambert either. If they had Moyes lined up see the sense of sacking Lambert but could well just be replacing like for like from the list I see . My choice not that it's worth anything is Neil Lennon who is doing great at Hibs . Lots of people hate him though but his experience is decent his team's play great football and he is a winner .
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Post by jimmygscfc on May 20, 2018 10:13:15 GMT
Lennon? 😳
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Post by sufolkstokie on May 20, 2018 10:25:02 GMT
Talk to any Ipswich fan and they will tell you how boring it was with MM in charge regardless of resources
If you thought the football was bad under previous managers you ain't see nowt yet
He also had zero affinity with the fan base
MM - how low have we sunk?
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 20, 2018 10:36:14 GMT
MM - how low have we sunk? If you look at the current list of odds, pretty low. He's one of the better candidates on the list unless you think what this disjointed rabble need is an unproven lad from the Swedish boondocks.
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Post by thevoid on May 20, 2018 13:24:06 GMT
And where is he setting the world on fire at the moment? Pearson is a great manager Is that why he's in the Belgian 2nd division?
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Post by harrysburrow on May 20, 2018 13:43:50 GMT
Mick McCarthy - FFS?
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Post by vahl on May 20, 2018 13:47:43 GMT
Pearson is a great manager Is that why he's in the Belgian 2nd division? He's doing a job for his mate. His mate that makes him very rich. Belgium is also pretty much the hotbed of footballing talent these days as well. The Belgian 2nd tier is a 'specialised' league in a way, it focuses a lot on Youth development and cutting-edge coaching techniques. I 'know a guy' who works for a club in Belgium, he's very good at what he does and can't speak highly enough of how the footballing side of things over there are going.
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Post by kjpt140v on May 20, 2018 17:53:08 GMT
And where is he setting the world on fire at the moment? Did I say he was ? who would you have ? come on head above the parapet time. I don't really know, I know who I wouldn't have. If I was pushed I'd say Moyes or possibly approach Ranieri although I doubt he'd come to us.
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Post by kjpt140v on May 20, 2018 17:53:45 GMT
And where is he setting the world on fire at the moment? Pearson is a great manager Dick
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Post by bathstoke on May 20, 2018 17:58:02 GMT
Talk to any Ipswich fan and they will tell you how boring it was with MM in charge regardless of resources If you thought the football was bad under previous managers you ain't see nowt yet He also had zero affinity with the fan base MM - how low have we sunk? The full horror of what the club has done to itself & the fans did not deserve this...
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Post by thegift on May 20, 2018 18:07:25 GMT
Pearson is a great manager Dick Great informative reply then kevin. Pearson was part of the success behind Leicester's title win.
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