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Post by penkvillepotter on Apr 8, 2018 18:27:49 GMT
Newcastle away for me. They cut us to shreds in the first half and could have been 5 up at half time.
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Post by vahl on Apr 8, 2018 18:29:40 GMT
Bournemouth at home. This season.
That was the day the wheels started to fall off properly.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 8, 2018 18:30:42 GMT
During this season you mean?.. After the Bournemouth home game Hughes should have been sacked. I always thought that if that was the best reaction Hughes could muster up out of the players after a 7-2 defeat at Citeh the week before then we are in deep shit. Clear sign he had lost the plot and the players but Coates obviously didn't see it that way.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 8, 2018 18:31:08 GMT
Bournemouth at home. This season. That was the day the wheels started to fall off properly. You got in there first
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Post by skip on Apr 8, 2018 18:33:37 GMT
When Hughes admitted to throwing games. I suspected it was going tits up with Spurs away and then confirmed with the Chelsea shit show. Hughes. What a cunt.
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Post by potterblade on Apr 8, 2018 18:34:07 GMT
Not to sabotage the thread before it's had a chance, but it was very telling that we could never get a result against any TP side when Hughes was in charge.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Apr 8, 2018 18:37:57 GMT
Yep Bournemouth at home for me too. Really expected a reaction after the Man City debacle but what we got was shocking. Then was probably the time to change manager
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Post by lordb on Apr 8, 2018 18:39:29 GMT
Not to sabotage the thread before it's had a chance, but it was very telling that we could never get a result against any TP side when Hughes was in charge. No Stoke manager has beaten a Pulis side, including before Pulis was Stoke manager. I want Middlesbrough to go up so we don't have to play them.
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Post by generationex on Apr 8, 2018 18:40:19 GMT
When we gave away Huth it suggested there was seriously defective management at the club. That was the first obvious signal.
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Post by shipshape on Apr 8, 2018 18:40:31 GMT
At half time three nil down at Bolton in the first ever game in the Premier League. We were up against it then and have done great things since. Makes it all the more frustrating now after establishing ourselves. Even Villa and Sunderland survived by the skin of their teeth for a few seasons before finally succumbing.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Apr 8, 2018 18:42:08 GMT
The last home game of last season and the farcical end of season parade to an empty stadium followed by no reaction from the board.
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Post by xchpotter on Apr 8, 2018 18:42:46 GMT
Palace and Brighton away.....just an impending sense of doom and goals conceded directly after we had gilt edged chances to put the games to bed.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 8, 2018 18:44:40 GMT
I see the usual suspects are spouting complete and utter bollocks.
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Post by potterblade on Apr 8, 2018 18:49:13 GMT
Not to sabotage the thread before it's had a chance, but it was very telling that we could never get a result against any TP side when Hughes was in charge. No Stoke manager has beaten a Pulis side, including before Pulis was Stoke manager. I want Middlesbrough to go up so we don't have to play them. Hughes had plenty of chances to put that right and never seemed to learn where he was found lacking. Truth is we never had the character needed to win those games and it just became a predictable symptom of a bigger problem which was his failure to reinforce or replace the spine that TP himself put in place.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 8, 2018 18:51:06 GMT
If you mean this season(which Hughes shouldn’t have got) the sale of Arnie and replacing him with the cheap signings in Choupo and Jese. Hughes should have been sacked after the Bournemouth game imo but loyalty by a deluded board thought differently.
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Post by milky on Apr 8, 2018 18:52:31 GMT
With hindsight probably the very day we officially unveiled the self sufficiency model and Cartwright was employed was when things began to slowly fester.
As for when I actually thought Hughes wasn't going to turn it round this time ?
Palace away I think.The way in the space of minutes we turned a probable 3 points in to none.
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Post by palerider on Apr 8, 2018 18:53:30 GMT
Last season when we kept getting dicked,followed by a poor pre season in the transfer marked This season when we kept getting dicked but still persevered with three at the back even though A blind man on a galloping horse could see that it wasn’t working.
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Post by smallthorner on Apr 8, 2018 18:53:58 GMT
Good question. Not so easy to answer in my case. Have to say the FA Cup tie after the Liverpool semi heartbreak started to give me dark thoughts.
As stated above, in relatively recent times the Bournemouth game.
I have to say also... The signing of Wimmer. Not hindsight... just thought...why?? Didn't know much about the guy tbh but wasn't there other priorities?
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Post by Boothen on Apr 8, 2018 18:55:03 GMT
When we started the season with Hughes still in charge.
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Post by bhp on Apr 8, 2018 18:57:02 GMT
I took the Peter Coates approach of what's all the fuss about until the bottle job at Palace after going a goal up. Then even more so against West Ham at home.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Apr 8, 2018 19:05:59 GMT
I took the Peter Coates approach of what's all the fuss about until the bottle job at Palace after going a goal up. Then even more so against West Ham at home. The Palace game was definitely the defeat that most got to me this season. Not sure why, think it was the throwing of 3 points away in such an abject manner. That and the failure to beat Brighton for obvious reasons.
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Post by pistol on Apr 8, 2018 19:06:35 GMT
When we filled in the corner. Typical Stoke
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Post by brumstokie on Apr 8, 2018 19:10:52 GMT
When Hughes decided to go with 3 at the back without the requisite 2 good wing backs to make that system work - frigging madness.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Apr 8, 2018 19:12:50 GMT
Bournemouth again, that was when I thought we could be getting relegated.
Then Brighton, which confirmed to me that we are indeed going to be relegated.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 8, 2018 19:14:32 GMT
Valencia away. I walked out of the ground and said "this is as good as it gets. Its all downhill from here".
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Apr 8, 2018 19:14:44 GMT
Wolves last season,said after that we need to get rid of Hughes at the end of the season.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Apr 8, 2018 19:16:41 GMT
End of last season defeat at home to Arsenal but i also thought getting rid of Huth was very odd & had me thinking this could backfire badly.
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Post by Gods on Apr 8, 2018 19:17:11 GMT
It's been going wrong for a couple of seasons hasn't it ?
Charlie's calamitous penalty miss right at the death against Brighton to piss 2 precious points up the wall was the moment I realised we wouldn't have the wherewithal to dig ourselves out.
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Post by penkvillepotter on Apr 8, 2018 19:18:37 GMT
I did mean this season but I’m well aware we’ve been suffering a long slow death since Jan 16.
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Post by bhp on Apr 8, 2018 19:18:40 GMT
I took the Peter Coates approach of what's all the fuss about until the bottle job at Palace after going a goal up. Then even more so against West Ham at home. The Palace game was definitely the defeat that most got to me this season. Not sure why, think it was the throwing of 3 points away in such an abject manner. That and the failure to beat Brighton for obvious reasons. Palace were rock bottom at the time I think. To not have the ability to see out a 1-0 win against a very poor side at the time was the wake up call for me.
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