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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 29, 2018 9:23:24 GMT
To call out the bias, I liked Mark Hughes and was one of the last calling for him to go and I was completely underwhelmed by Paul Lambert. I cannot see any managerial attribute where Lambert is superior to Hughes, hindsight is great but letting Hughes go when we did without a suitable replacement was a monumental error. We are in no better position than we were under Hughes and we have given Lambert a 2.5 year contract. Style of football: Hughes (although it was dire at times) Man management: Hughes Tactics: Hughes (poor at times but better than Lambert) Media performance: Hughes Transfers: shocking under Hughes but nothing to compare with yet. Dress sense  : Hughes (but I'm old school) On paper Lambert appears to have tightened up the defence but I'm reserving judgement on that, the Arsenal game will be instructive. As you can see I'm not a Lambert fan but can anyone really argue that he's a better manager than Hughes |
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Post by thegift on Mar 29, 2018 9:24:10 GMT
There has been about 30 threads on this
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 29, 2018 9:26:58 GMT
There has been about 30 threads on this Didn't see one particularly analysing (or trying to) the respective managerial strengths of both. Happy for mods to bin if it's duplication |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 29, 2018 9:27:02 GMT
Southampton employed a better manager on a better contract for sure.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 29, 2018 9:28:27 GMT
The replacement of Hughes has been as shambolic as the player recruitment. The issue wasn't getting rid of Hughes, it's the fact we've replaced him with someone worse. Much like it wasn't wrong to get rid of Whelan and Walters, we just replaced them with shit.
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Post by thegift on Mar 29, 2018 9:29:35 GMT
To call out the bias, I liked Mark Hughes and was one of the last calling for him to go and I was completely underwhelmed by Paul Lambert. I cannot see any managerial attribute where Lambert is superior to Hughes, hindsight is great but letting Hughes go when we did without a suitable replacement was a monumental error. We are in no better position than we were under Hughes and we have given Lambert a 2.5 year contract. Did you enjoy the away defeat to league 2 Coventry? |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 29, 2018 9:34:15 GMT
To call out the bias, I liked Mark Hughes and was one of the last calling for him to go and I was completely underwhelmed by Paul Lambert. I cannot see any managerial attribute where Lambert is superior to Hughes, hindsight is great but letting Hughes go when we did without a suitable replacement was a monumental error. We are in no better position than we were under Hughes and we have given Lambert a 2.5 year contract. Did you enjoy the away defeat to league 2 Coventry? Absolutely not, it was shocking shameful and unacceptable. I've said I liked Hughes but than doesn't mean his time wasn't up, but I haven't enjoyed much under Lambert. Ps Lambert seems like an ok guy but most organisations promote people beyond their capability and than can have serious consequences for performance, we are witnessing the footballing equivalent |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 29, 2018 9:34:55 GMT
To call out the bias, I liked Mark Hughes and was one of the last calling for him to go and I was completely underwhelmed by Paul Lambert. I cannot see any managerial attribute where Lambert is superior to Hughes, hindsight is great but letting Hughes go when we did without a suitable replacement was a monumental error. We are in no better position than we were under Hughes and we have given Lambert a 2.5 year contract. Did you enjoy the away defeat to league 2 Coventry? I didn't enjoy the result but it was clear to see we tried hard and we missed enough chances to win 3 or 4 games. Same with Newcastle where their keeper got man of the match. There were lots of things wrong under Hughes but replacing him with Lambert was stupid in the extreme. |
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Post by thegift on Mar 29, 2018 9:42:43 GMT
Did you enjoy the away defeat to league 2 Coventry? I didn't enjoy the result but it was clear to see we tried hard and we missed enough chances to win 3 or 4 games. Same with Newcastle where their keeper got man of the match. There were lots of things wrong under Hughes but replacing him with Lambert was stupid in the extreme. Tried hard? Dave please for the love of god, i know you liked Hughes but at least be honest with yourself. It was an utter embarrassment. That afternoon was certainly the opposite of 'Hard Work'. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 29, 2018 9:49:21 GMT
The pretty obvious conclusion is that they're both pretty lame ducks. Lambert's staying no matter what happens between now and May so we'll see what he's made of in the second tier.
Having said that, Lambert's inability doesn't mean sacking Hughes was a mistake, the guy was completely out of his depth and had lost any semblance of the man he was in his first 3 years here.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 29, 2018 9:51:05 GMT
I didn't enjoy the result but it was clear to see we tried hard and we missed enough chances to win 3 or 4 games. Same with Newcastle where their keeper got man of the match. There were lots of things wrong under Hughes but replacing him with Lambert was stupid in the extreme. Tried hard? Dave please for the love of god, i know you liked Hughes but at least be honest with yourself. It was an utter embarrassment. That afternoon was certainly the opposite of 'Hard Work'. I disagree. Berahino aside maybe, there was no lack of effort v Coventry. Every national media report acknowledged that on the day. We created more than enough chances to have won the game several times over. I was far more angry after the defeats v man city, Tottenham and west ham than I was after Coventry. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 29, 2018 9:52:03 GMT
On the main page, this thread title has an anchor by it.  |
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Post by cousindupree on Mar 29, 2018 10:22:12 GMT
To answer the op's question. The one area where Lambert beats Hughes hands down is his animation on the touchline, complete with tracky sleeves rolled up in a snow blizzard. The demented gibbon impression is pretty impressive.
But many on here like to see a manager supposedly showing passion....sadly it winning us nothing and certainly hasn't influenced the players. I guess when you have no tactical know how in your armoury you have to do something.
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Post by Gods on Mar 29, 2018 10:28:05 GMT
There's not a club on the planet who would appoint Lambert and team ahead of Hughes and team.
Well maybe there is just one !!
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Post by flea79 on Mar 29, 2018 10:41:07 GMT
To call out the bias, I liked Mark Hughes and was one of the last calling for him to go and I was completely underwhelmed by Paul Lambert. I cannot see any managerial attribute where Lambert is superior to Hughes, hindsight is great but letting Hughes go when we did without a suitable replacement was a monumental error. We are in no better position than we were under Hughes and we have given Lambert a 2.5 year contract. Did you enjoy the away defeat to league 2 Coventry? tbh looking back at at Hughes in the FA cup 3rd round especially we have made hard work of all these ties with lower league, thinking back we won 3-1 against Wrexham but that score flattered us big style after spending a long time behind them even less chance next year with Lambert who has openly said he thinks the cup is a distraction and the decimated squad we are going to be left with then not too mention that next season the capped one will return with Boro and do us over and cost us a place in playoffs or something we have been a mess for years |
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Post by thegift on Mar 29, 2018 10:48:50 GMT
Did you enjoy the away defeat to league 2 Coventry? tbh looking back at at Hughes in the FA cup 3rd round especially we have made hard work of all these ties with lower league, thinking back we won 3-1 against Wrexham but that score flattered us big style after spending a long time behind them even less chance next year with Lambert who has openly said he thinks the cup is a distraction and the decimated squad we are going to be left with then not too mention that next season the capped one will return with Boro and do us over and cost us a place in playoffs or something we have been a mess for years We are going down with a whimper and i can imagine us finishing mid table in the championship next year. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 29, 2018 20:02:28 GMT
Lambert is wank but lets not re-write history. We were going down under Hughes and probably would have broken the record for negative goal difference.
We had become an utter fucking disgrace of a side under Hughes. Does anyone need reminding of that Chelsea game or his record signing high fiving his mates after we got bum fucked at Wembley.
Lambert being useless doesn't exonerate what that tool ended up doing to this club.
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: Hughes (but I'm old school)
