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Post by stokie1954 on Mar 18, 2018 17:46:48 GMT
Bojan, Imbula, Muniesa. If Lambert stays would you see any role for these players in the championship, or would he spend the money available on players that he decides would fit his own agenda?.
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Post by greystokie on Mar 18, 2018 18:01:46 GMT
I can't think of any players less suited to the Championship than those 3
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 18, 2018 18:04:02 GMT
Muniesa is as good as gone isn't he?
We clearly want the other two off the wage bill pronto.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Mar 18, 2018 18:33:13 GMT
Muniesa would be alright. Imbula would be shit. Bojan could go either way; could be knocking them in for fun versus slower defenders, or he'd get clogged and smashed to smithereens.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Mar 18, 2018 18:35:21 GMT
Muniesa is already gone, Bojan will piss that league and I’d sack Imbula off to free up some funds.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 18, 2018 18:35:48 GMT
Imbula in the Championship would be hilariously bad. Bless him.
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Post by andystokey on Mar 18, 2018 18:39:53 GMT
Bojan, Imbula, Muniesa. If Lambert stays would you see any role for these players in the championship, or would he spend the money available on players that he decides would fit his own agenda?. Could you ask the question again but without the reference to Lambert? The thought of going down is bad enough as it is 🙄
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Post by roylandstoke on Mar 18, 2018 20:21:01 GMT
Given our options up front it is criminal that Bojan wasn't recalled in January.
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Post by poethebald on Mar 19, 2018 0:00:34 GMT
None of them were suited to English football...with the possible exception of Bojan before his cruciate injury.They will be sold for minimal fees in a fire sale if / when we are relegated. I'm so angry that out board has allowed this to happen.After all the bad days, standing on a wooden stand at Grimsby in the snow, getting the car kicked in at Burnley and witnessing the endeavours of Kyle Lightbourne, we eventually reach the promised land....then because they are so tight arsed...it's all gone to rat shit!! The most depressing thing is that it's been so avoidable.Grrrrrr....bloody Stoke City!!!
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Post by Gods on Mar 19, 2018 0:15:14 GMT
Muniesa is as good as gone isn't he? We clearly want the other two off the wage bill pronto.Yes, but how? No one has answered this question to my satisfaction! I just can't see an 'out' for us with these 2 clowns.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 0:34:37 GMT
Bojan stays. He rips those defenders to shreds, and is the type of talismanic player you need to get out of that league. Muniesa is gone, fair play to him. Imbula could go either way, but he can't play in a midfield two and i'd want Bojan number 10. take anything around £5-8m
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Post by iglugluk on Mar 19, 2018 0:39:29 GMT
Given our options up front it is criminal that Bojan wasn't recalled in January. Yes hard to understand that. Didn't Scholes say at the time that it was even a consideration? Hard to understand what goes on behind the scenes, the level of stupidity is unfathomable.
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Post by cooper67 on Mar 19, 2018 1:36:58 GMT
To get a player back from a season long loan-don't the 2 clubs and the player have to all agree to cut it short?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 19, 2018 6:38:18 GMT
Muniesa is as good as gone isn't he? We clearly want the other two off the wage bill pronto.Yes, but how? No one has answered this question to my satisfaction! I just can't see an 'out' for us with these 2 clowns. Oh we’re stuck with them alright. The best we can hope for is getting another loan club to take them off our hands for a season. This idea Bojan would’ve saved us when he’s done nothing for anybody for over a year is rose tinted mushiness based on not much as well.
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Post by werrington on Mar 19, 2018 7:05:54 GMT
Yes, but how? No one has answered this question to my satisfaction! I just can't see an 'out' for us with these 2 clowns. Oh we’re stuck with them alright. The best we can hope for is getting another loan club to take them off our hands for a season. This idea Bojan would’ve saved us when he’s done nothing for anybody for over a year is rose tinted mushiness based on not much as well. Nobody is saying he would of saved us Rob I/they are saying he’s no worse than what we have up front at this moment in time....he’s ours so there’d of been no fee involved so what’s to lose ? He probably wouldn’t of changed it but HE JUST MIGHT OF mate ..It’s the same with Campbell See you in the championship
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 19, 2018 7:50:20 GMT
Oh we’re stuck with them alright. The best we can hope for is getting another loan club to take them off our hands for a season. This idea Bojan would’ve saved us when he’s done nothing for anybody for over a year is rose tinted mushiness based on not much as well. Nobody is saying he would of saved us Rob I/they are saying he’s no worse than what we have up front at this moment in time....he’s ours so there’d of been no fee involved so what’s to lose ? He probably wouldn’t of changed it but HE JUST MIGHT OF mate ..It’s the same with Campbell See you in the championship I think the problems go far beyond that mate. Tyrese would be this year's Dean Crowe at best. He's clearly a lot better and will have a better career, but he's a not-ready kid thrust unforgivingly into a relegation battle. If Hughes had stayed and had Bojan, it wouldn't have addressed the main problem, which was the defence - we were actually scoring a respectable amount of goals. If Lambert had had him he wouldn't have used him, because he doesn't have space for a number 10. He might have stuck him up front on his own like Jese, and hoofed it up to him. The end result would've been the same. And that's not even taking into account the fact that he's a shadow of the player he was.
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Post by werrington on Mar 19, 2018 7:59:38 GMT
Nobody is saying he would of saved us Rob I/they are saying he’s no worse than what we have up front at this moment in time....he’s ours so there’d of been no fee involved so what’s to lose ? He probably wouldn’t of changed it but HE JUST MIGHT OF mate ..It’s the same with Campbell See you in the championship I think the problems go far beyond that mate. Tyrese would be this year's Dean Crowe at best. He's clearly a lot better and will have a better career, but he's a not-ready kid thrust unforgivingly into a relegation battle. If Hughes had stayed and had Bojan, it wouldn't have addressed the main problem, which was the defence - we were actually scoring a respectable amount of goals. If Lambert had had him he wouldn't have used him, because he doesn't have space for a number 10. He might have stuck him up front on his own like Jese, and hoofed it up to him. The end result would've been the same. And that's not even taking into account the fact that he's a shadow of the player he was. Campbell is 18 mate, he’s no kid Why are we the only club in the country whose 18 year olds are not ready yet ? Rashford was nowhere near ready for Manchester United until they had no option to play him ....he cut a lonely figure for their u23s and almost joined Crewe on loan There’s literally nothing to lose by giving him a go Rob as unless we try something different it’s curtains
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 19, 2018 8:18:59 GMT
I think the problems go far beyond that mate. Tyrese would be this year's Dean Crowe at best. He's clearly a lot better and will have a better career, but he's a not-ready kid thrust unforgivingly into a relegation battle. If Hughes had stayed and had Bojan, it wouldn't have addressed the main problem, which was the defence - we were actually scoring a respectable amount of goals. If Lambert had had him he wouldn't have used him, because he doesn't have space for a number 10. He might have stuck him up front on his own like Jese, and hoofed it up to him. The end result would've been the same. And that's not even taking into account the fact that he's a shadow of the player he was. Campbell is 18 mate, he’s no kid Why are we the only club in the country whose 18 year olds are not ready yet ? Rashford was nowhere near ready for Manchester United until they had no option to play him ....he cut a lonely figure for their u23s and almost joined Crewe on loan There’s literally nothing to lose by giving him a go Rob as unless we try something different it’s curtains I don't think we are mate. Look around the league, you won't find many 18-year-olds playing regularly at this level. I agree there's nothing to lose and I've got no problem giving him a try, I'm just saying it won't make any difference and it won't necessarily do him any favours.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 19, 2018 13:13:17 GMT
I'd actually like to see Imbula in the championship, I reckon Lambert could sort him out.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 19, 2018 13:17:11 GMT
I'd actually like to see Imbula in the championship, I reckon Lambert could sort him out. Why?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 13:19:55 GMT
I'd actually like to see Imbula in the championship, I reckon Lambert could sort him out. Ha ha ha ha ha. Sorry.
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Post by werrington on Mar 19, 2018 13:21:25 GMT
Campbell is 18 mate, he’s no kid Why are we the only club in the country whose 18 year olds are not ready yet ? Rashford was nowhere near ready for Manchester United until they had no option to play him ....he cut a lonely figure for their u23s and almost joined Crewe on loan There’s literally nothing to lose by giving him a go Rob as unless we try something different it’s curtains I don't think we are mate. Look around the league, you won't find many 18-year-olds playing regularly at this level. I agree there's nothing to lose and I've got no problem giving him a try, I'm just saying it won't make any difference and it won't necessarily do him any favours. We genuinely won’t know unless we try mate Desperate times need desperate measures and if we don’t we’ll go down wondering what might of been The current incumbents are a shambles
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 19, 2018 15:02:42 GMT
I'd actually like to see Imbula in the championship, I reckon Lambert could sort him out. Ha ha ha ha ha. Sorry. More chance of him handling the championship than Bojan or Muniesa
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Post by MilanStokie on Mar 19, 2018 15:17:30 GMT
think anyone on a wage north of 40k will be sold. apart from ryan.
luckily that could equate to 100m+
there is no way we will want imbula and bojan in the squad taking up 130k a week in wages!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 15:21:48 GMT
think anyone on a wage north of 40k will be sold. apart from ryan. luckily that could equate to 100m+ there is no way we will want imbula and bojan in the squad taking up 130k a week in wages! Youve got to find someone to take them first. At least Imbula seems to be playing better so someone might be interested. Bojan... Cant see a way out of that one.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 19, 2018 19:20:11 GMT
I’d rather have either than Jesé , choupo, Fletcher ,
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 19, 2018 19:25:47 GMT
I’d rather have either than Jesé , choupo, Fletcher , Fortunately Jese will go back to PSG. Cheapo will be off somewhere abroad for whatever we can get and we'll only have to suffer Fletcher stinking the place out for another 12 months, unless we pay him off of course.
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Post by numpty40 on Mar 19, 2018 19:30:05 GMT
I’d rather have either than Jesé , choupo, Fletcher , Fortunately Jese will go back to PSG. Cheapo will be off somewhere abroad for whatever we can get and we'll only have to suffer Fletcher stinking the place out for another 12 months, unless we pay him off of course. Can't see Choupo going anywhere to be honest. Isn't he 'renowned' for honouring his big fat contract and that's why he's always available on a free at the end of that contract?
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Post by nonameface on Mar 19, 2018 20:06:24 GMT
Fortunately Jese will go back to PSG. Cheapo will be off somewhere abroad for whatever we can get and we'll only have to suffer Fletcher stinking the place out for another 12 months, unless we pay him off of course. Can't see Choupo going anywhere to be honest. Isn't he 'renowned' for honouring his big fat contract and that's why he's always available on a free at the end of that contract? If our priority was on lowering the outgoings through reducing wages then we could set his transfer fee at zero meaning he could potentially get a better deal than we gave him.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 19, 2018 20:52:49 GMT
Fortunately Jese will go back to PSG. Cheapo will be off somewhere abroad for whatever we can get and we'll only have to suffer Fletcher stinking the place out for another 12 months, unless we pay him off of course. Can't see Choupo going anywhere to be honest. Isn't he 'renowned' for honouring his big fat contract and that's why he's always available on a free at the end of that contract? In fairness Cheapo might get us 10+ goals next year and Fletcher might just hack the Championship for a season (look at Huddlestone). The most worrying thing would be their wages because I'm sure we don't have any relegation clauses written in so they'll all be on top dollar. So in reality if we're still in pennypinching mode they'll be off before June's out.
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