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Post by Kingswaystokie on Mar 17, 2018 19:30:05 GMT
Most supporters could see this happening 18 months ago.
1) Coates bumbled along and wondered what all the fuss was about, and has now realised he should have sacked Hughes a long time ago.
2) Scholes not sure what he has ever done.
3) Cartwright Oversaw the signings of Imbula Wimmer Berhaino.. say no moore.
Total incompetence.
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Post by waffles on Mar 17, 2018 19:32:56 GMT
Difficult to argue with that, I thought bera was a good signing though,proved wrong obviously.
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Post by dutchstokie on Mar 17, 2018 19:33:02 GMT
Most supporters could see this happening 18 months ago. 1) Coates bumbled along and wondered what all the fuss was about, and has now realised he should have sacked Hughes a long time ago. 2) Scholes not sure what he has ever done. 3) Cartwright Oversaw the signings of Imbula Wimmer Berhaino.. say no moore. Total incompetence. That’s a statement..... what’s your message? 😁
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Post by Kingswaystokie on Mar 17, 2018 19:34:47 GMT
Total incompetence
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 19:34:52 GMT
When we signed Berahino I thought he was the missing link. Turns out he is, just not in the way I imagined.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Mar 17, 2018 19:38:11 GMT
Saw Scholes & Cartwright today they are not worthy of the jobs they supposedly do they are both complete wasters robbing a living from SCFC they have no connection with the real fans & do not feel the pain the supporters are going through. Coates is being conned by these people & he should show them the door.
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Post by mermaidsal on Mar 17, 2018 20:07:11 GMT
Most supporters could see this happening 18 months ago. 1) Coates bumbled along and wondered what all the fuss was about, and has now realised he should have sacked Hughes a long time ago. 2) Scholes not sure what he has ever done. 3) Cartwright Oversaw the signings of Imbula Wimmer Berhaino.. say no moore. Total incompetence. Hate to think of Coates and bumbled in the same sentence and this so isn't me being ageist - but there's just no question who the buck stops with for this relegation. It's a tragic way to go really after everything PC has done for the club and the city but the start of the new season in the Champ would be a realistic time for the new Coates generation to take the helm. Scholes I don't greatly care about either way, but Cartwright's been stealing a living for me and ok, has done some good things but a hell of a lot more damage, on balance, over the time he's been in post.
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Post by theplantpotter on Mar 17, 2018 20:42:46 GMT
Would have done better blindfolded and sticking pins on a list of names
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 17, 2018 20:43:34 GMT
Recruitment has been abysmal, how Carto is still in a job is beyond me. I think Coates is just too trustworthy and has been taken advantage of if I'm being honest.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 17, 2018 20:44:09 GMT
Saw Scholes & Cartwright today they are not worthy of the jobs they supposedly do they are both complete wasters robbing a living from SCFC they have no connection with the real fans & do not feel the pain the supporters are going through. Coates is being conned by these people & he should show them the door. Spot on We have a board that Is totally insular , without challenge and out of touch with its industry and it’s customers , and has just lost its principal revenue stream as a result , Any other business and the board would pay the price and certainly the fulll time executive directors . Time to step up Mr Coates take the action and remove the poison at the top and all those connected with it throughout the business
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Mar 17, 2018 20:47:07 GMT
On the day our relegation is confirmed, Scholes and Cartwright should be wheeled out on to the car park and publicly butt fucked by a JCB.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 17, 2018 20:52:24 GMT
Most supporters could see this happening 18 months ago. 1) Coates bumbled along and wondered what all the fuss was about, and has now realised he should have sacked Hughes a long time ago. 2) Scholes not sure what he has ever done. 3) Cartwright Oversaw the signings of Imbula Wimmer Berhaino.. say no moore. Total incompetence. Hate to think of Coates and bumbled in the same sentence and this so isn't me being ageist - but there's just no question who the buck stops with for this relegation. It's a tragic way to go really after everything PC has done for the club and the city but the start of the new season in the Champ would be a realistic time for the new Coates generation to take the helm. Scholes I don't greatly care about either way, but Cartwright's been stealing a living for me and ok, has done some good things but a hell of a lot more damage, on balance, over the time he's been in post. Sal I never thought Peter Coates was a bumbling old duffer. I always had him down as a switched on older guy. Then I saw him on Question Time and realised he was just....well.... a bumbling geriatric duffer. He's been taken for a ride by two charlatans for way too long. John needs to step up to the mark and sort them out. But I fear he's been taken in by them too.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Mar 17, 2018 20:58:11 GMT
The manager at Stoke decides who he wants and then the others do the negotiating.
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Post by mermaidsal on Mar 17, 2018 20:58:31 GMT
Hate to think of Coates and bumbled in the same sentence and this so isn't me being ageist - but there's just no question who the buck stops with for this relegation. It's a tragic way to go really after everything PC has done for the club and the city but the start of the new season in the Champ would be a realistic time for the new Coates generation to take the helm. Scholes I don't greatly care about either way, but Cartwright's been stealing a living for me and ok, has done some good things but a hell of a lot more damage, on balance, over the time he's been in post. Sal I never thought Peter Coates was a bumbling old duffer. I always had him down as a switched on older guy. Then I saw him on Question Time and realised he was just....well.... a bumbling geriatric duffer. He's been taken for a ride by two charlatans for way too long. John needs to step up to the mark and sort them out. But I fear he's been taken in by them too. I don't have enough sense of John tbh. Wish Denise liked football more but I just don't believe her heart's in it enough.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Mar 17, 2018 21:00:43 GMT
Most supporters could see this happening 18 months ago. 1) Coates bumbled along and wondered what all the fuss was about, and has now realised he should have sacked Hughes a long time ago. 2) Scholes not sure what he has ever done. 3) Cartwright Oversaw the signings of Imbula Wimmer Berhaino.. say no moore. Total incompetence. One wonders what his son's role is as he is equally culpable which is worrying going forward
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Post by goatbulgaria on Mar 17, 2018 21:06:36 GMT
The manager at Stoke decides who he wants and then the others do the negotiating. No he doesnt
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 17, 2018 21:08:49 GMT
Saw Scholes & Cartwright today they are not worthy of the jobs they supposedly do they are both complete wasters robbing a living from SCFC they have no connection with the real fans & do not feel the pain the supporters are going through. Coates is being conned by these people & he should show them the door. Fuck the door, hurl the 2 tossers out of a top floor window.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Mar 17, 2018 21:11:59 GMT
The manager at Stoke decides who he wants and then the others do the negotiating. No he doesnt Yes he does, talk to Angela Smith who knows how the system works, not just make things up.
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Post by mermaidsal on Mar 17, 2018 21:13:56 GMT
Yes he does, talk to Angela Smith who knows how the system works, not just make things up. That's what I've always believed too but it's Cartwright who keeps the rolling shortlist isn't it? How about in the Hughes/Lambert interregnum when we were still making signings, do we know what the decision chain was then?
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Mar 17, 2018 21:16:57 GMT
Yes he does, talk to Angela Smith who knows how the system works, not just make things up. That's what I've always believed too but it's Cartwright who keeps the rolling shortlist isn't it? How about in the Hughes/Lambert interregnum when we were still making signings, do we know what the decision chain was then? They were Hughes signings. Who keeps the shortlist is irrelevant, the manager puts them on it.
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Post by wuzza on Mar 17, 2018 21:19:52 GMT
How about a ‘message’ for the actual players. They are the ones getting paid a fortune and showing themselves up on a regular basis. Pieters not available for selection today because of a curfew infraction !!! It’s pathetic.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Mar 17, 2018 21:21:08 GMT
How about a ‘message’ for the actual players. They are the ones getting paid a fortune and showing themselves up on a regular basis. Pieters not available for selection today because of a curfew infraction !!! It’s pathetic. Where have you got that from?
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Post by wuzza on Mar 17, 2018 21:22:11 GMT
How about a ‘message’ for the actual players. They are the ones getting paid a fortune and showing themselves up on a regular basis. Pieters not available for selection today because of a curfew infraction !!! It’s pathetic. Where have you got that from? Daily Mirror. Sorry can’t do link on this thing.
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Post by loosestools on Mar 17, 2018 21:23:18 GMT
When we signed Berahino I thought he was the missing link. Turns out he is, just not in the way I imagined. The 'missing link' might score more goals, and it would be cheaper.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Mar 17, 2018 21:24:11 GMT
Where have you got that from? Daily Mirror. Sorry can’t do link on this thing. lol paper talk??
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Post by wuzza on Mar 17, 2018 21:26:51 GMT
Daily Mirror. Sorry can’t do link on this thing. lol paper talk?? We ain’t been short of that this season .... but they still don’t learn or don’t care.
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Post by iglugluk on Mar 17, 2018 21:28:23 GMT
Most supporters could see this happening 18 months ago. 1) Coates bumbled along and wondered what all the fuss was about, and has now realised he should have sacked Hughes a long time ago. 2) Scholes not sure what he has ever done. 3) Cartwright Oversaw the signings of Imbula Wimmer Berhaino.. say no moore. Total incompetence. That’s a statement..... what’s your message? 😁 His message is clearly in the form of a statement. There's nothing contradictory about that.......maybe you need to look up the definition of the word 'message'
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 17, 2018 21:35:12 GMT
That's what I've always believed too but it's Cartwright who keeps the rolling shortlist isn't it? How about in the Hughes/Lambert interregnum when we were still making signings, do we know what the decision chain was then? They were Hughes signings. Who keeps the shortlist is irrelevant, the manager puts them on it. Finally you agree this total and utter balls up is all down to Mark Hughes you got there in the end then.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Mar 17, 2018 21:40:00 GMT
They were Hughes signings. Who keeps the shortlist is irrelevant, the manager puts them on it. Finally you agree this total and utter balls up is all down to Mark Hughes you got there in the end then. Ive always said I wanted Hughes out at the end of last season.
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Post by fradleyhomes on Mar 17, 2018 21:46:08 GMT
Ever since Cartwright became involved the transfer dealings have been atrocious. It's started with Brek Shea and has got no better. Whether the manager is Lambert next season or not for God's sake let them choose the players they want rather thannthe Sunday morning goalkeeper.
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