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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 16, 2018 22:05:56 GMT
I noticed that most of the members here hate Arsenal, may be because of their TV channel or something else that I dont know, for me I dont hate them I like to watch their football although it is not good enough to win games or titles but it is still better than watching Mourinho or Antonio Conte.
After the recent problems between England and Russia, with talks about possibility for England not to participate in World Cup, the English team Arsenal has to travel and play in Russia against CSKA Moscow in the Europa League.
I see many of the members here are not caring about the English teams participating in Champions League or Europe League, with less extent some members like these English teams to lose, and a minority like these teams to win.
In case Arsenal vs CSKA Moscow there in Russia, how do you feel about it?
1- Not Caring
2- Want Arsenal to win
3- Still want Arsenal to lose
4- Just want the English fans to return safe
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2018 22:14:01 GMT
3 & 4
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Mar 16, 2018 22:15:46 GMT
I noticed that most of the members here hate Arsenal, may be because of their TV channel or something else that I dont know, for me I dont hate them I like to watch their football although it is not good enough to win games or titles but it is still better than watching Mourinho or Antonio Conte. After the recent problems between England and Russia, with talks about possibility for England not to participate in World Cup, the English team Arsenal has to travel and play in Russia against CSKA Moscow in the Europa League. I see many of the members here are not caring about the English teams participating in Champions League or Europe League, with less extent some members like these English teams to lose, and a minority like these teams to win. In case Arsenal vs CSKA Moscow there in Russia, how do you feel about it? 1- Not Caring 2- Want Arsenal to win 3- Still want Arsenal to lose 4- Just want the English fans to return safe Doctor, with the greatest respect, may I suggest you aquaint yourself with ‘the rivalry’ between the mighty Potters and Arsenal from say c1971/1972 and then again from c2008. This may give you some insight about the reasons why every self respecting Stoke fan hate, and I really mean hate, those north London wide boys. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Mar 16, 2018 22:18:36 GMT
I noticed that most of the members here hate Arsenal, may be because of their TV channel or something else that I dont know, for me I dont hate them I like to watch their football although it is not good enough to win games or titles but it is still better than watching Mourinho or Antonio Conte. After the recent problems between England and Russia, with talks about possibility for England not to participate in World Cup, the English team Arsenal has to travel and play in Russia against CSKA Moscow in the Europa League. I see many of the members here are not caring about the English teams participating in Champions League or Europe League, with less extent some members like these English teams to lose, and a minority like these teams to win. In case Arsenal vs CSKA Moscow there in Russia, how do you feel about it? 1- Not Caring 2- Want Arsenal to win 3- Still want Arsenal to lose 4- Just want the English fans to return safe Hmmm Dr your Stokie credentials may be lessening. Stoke have a long history dating back to two FA Cup Semi Finals in the early 70's to their manager's comments about us since we kept beating them at home, since we got in the Premiershit, and other things mainly 'The Ramsey Incident'. As with most top 4 - 6 teams, though I used to want English teams to do well in europe, it now just makes them stronger, financially, which is not a good thing for the rest of us! Number 3 in both ties! Football hatred goes beyond some maybe war with Russia!  P.S. I thought you were studying medicine you are now up to more than 1500 posts! I worry your studies may be suffering!  |
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 16, 2018 22:20:59 GMT
I noticed that most of the members here hate Arsenal, may be because of their TV channel or something else that I dont know, for me I dont hate them I like to watch their football although it is not good enough to win games or titles but it is still better than watching Mourinho or Antonio Conte. After the recent problems between England and Russia, with talks about possibility for England not to participate in World Cup, the English team Arsenal has to travel and play in Russia against CSKA Moscow in the Europa League. I see many of the members here are not caring about the English teams participating in Champions League or Europe League, with less extent some members like these English teams to lose, and a minority like these teams to win. In case Arsenal vs CSKA Moscow there in Russia, how do you feel about it? 1- Not Caring 2- Want Arsenal to win 3- Still want Arsenal to lose 4- Just want the English fans to return safe Doctor, with the greatest respect, may I suggest you aquaint yourself with ‘the rivalry’ between the mighty Potters and Arsenal from say c1971/1972 and then again from c2008. This may give you some insight about the reasons why every self respecting Stoke fan hate, and I really mean hate, those north London wide boys. Thanks for the explanation I didnt know about that rivalry, I thought the rival for Stoke City is Port Vale where an Egyptian player was playing called Sam Morsi who is playing for Wigan currently and the Egyptian national team. I thought Stoke on Trent is a city near Manchester and Liverpool but not London, this is why I thought Stoke City fans should hate Manchester teams or Liverpool more than Arsenal. |
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Mar 16, 2018 22:28:32 GMT
Doctor, with the greatest respect, may I suggest you aquaint yourself with ‘the rivalry’ between the mighty Potters and Arsenal from say c1971/1972 and then again from c2008. This may give you some insight about the reasons why every self respecting Stoke fan hate, and I really mean hate, those north London wide boys. Thanks for the explanation I didnt know about that rivalry, I thought the rival for Stoke City is Port Vale where an Egyptian player was playing called Sam Morsi who is playing for Wigan currently and the Egyptian national team. I thought Stoke on Trent is a city near Manchester and Liverpool but not London, this is why I thought Stoke City fans should hate Manchester teams or Liverpool more than Arsenal. Without being patronising in any way, seems you still have a lot to learn . . . . . but with help and a little counciling I’m sure you’ll get there 😁 |
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 16, 2018 22:31:20 GMT
I noticed that most of the members here hate Arsenal, may be because of their TV channel or something else that I dont know, for me I dont hate them I like to watch their football although it is not good enough to win games or titles but it is still better than watching Mourinho or Antonio Conte. After the recent problems between England and Russia, with talks about possibility for England not to participate in World Cup, the English team Arsenal has to travel and play in Russia against CSKA Moscow in the Europa League. I see many of the members here are not caring about the English teams participating in Champions League or Europe League, with less extent some members like these English teams to lose, and a minority like these teams to win. In case Arsenal vs CSKA Moscow there in Russia, how do you feel about it? 1- Not Caring 2- Want Arsenal to win 3- Still want Arsenal to lose 4- Just want the English fans to return safe Hmmm Dr your Stokie credentials may be lessening. Stoke have a long history dating back to two FA Cup Semi Finals in the early 70's to their manager's comments about us since we kept beating them at home, since we got in the Premiershit, and other things mainly 'The Ramsey Incident'. As with most top 4 - 6 teams, though I used to want English teams to do well in europe, it now just makes them stronger, financially, which is not a good thing for the rest of us! Number 3 in both ties! Football hatred goes beyond some maybe war with Russia! P.S. I thought you were studying medicine you are now up to more than 1500 posts! I worry your studies may be suffering! Thanks for the explanation, we used to study history of Pharoans in the schools and I am studying currently history of Stoke City, trust me I am not a spy. Hahaha Before graduation I had always a big dilemma in the medical school, when there is an exam and an important match, thinking about my priorities that ends up with watching the match , I had a very tough exam 3 months ago "United States Medical License Exam", and the night before the exam was a Huddersfield game and I had this dilemma that ended up with watching the game, Ramadan scoring and passing the exam My colleagues in the hospital here in Egypt love me, because I am the most flexible physician in the hospital, at the beginning of the month we make a monthly schedule and I tell them give me any shifts in any days as long as there is no matches. |
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Post by gavroberts on Mar 16, 2018 22:32:36 GMT
Doctor, with the greatest respect, may I suggest you aquaint yourself with ‘the rivalry’ between the mighty Potters and Arsenal from say c1971/1972 and then again from c2008. This may give you some insight about the reasons why every self respecting Stoke fan hate, and I really mean hate, those north London wide boys. Thanks for the explanation I didnt know about that rivalry, I thought the rival for Stoke City is Port Vale where an Egyptian player was playing called Sam Morsi who is playing for Wigan currently and the Egyptian national team. I thought Stoke on Trent is a city near Manchester and Liverpool but not London, this is why I thought Stoke City fans should hate Manchester teams or Liverpool more than Arsenal. Shows what you know then....trot on. I hate Arsenal |
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 16, 2018 22:36:51 GMT
Thanks for the explanation I didnt know about that rivalry, I thought the rival for Stoke City is Port Vale where an Egyptian player was playing called Sam Morsi who is playing for Wigan currently and the Egyptian national team. I thought Stoke on Trent is a city near Manchester and Liverpool but not London, this is why I thought Stoke City fans should hate Manchester teams or Liverpool more than Arsenal. Shows what you know then....trot on. I hate Arsenal Looks like I have to start hating Arsenal before being banned by the admins here. |
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Post by likelyladgalizmo on Mar 16, 2018 22:41:05 GMT
Gooarnn CSKA Moscow.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Mar 16, 2018 23:39:14 GMT
I hope Arsenal nuke the bastards!!!
“Forgive me Father for I have sinned”..😧
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Post by samba :) on Mar 16, 2018 23:47:18 GMT
Hopefull the arsenal fans show some sense and pull out their old andre arshavin shirts and wear them
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 16, 2018 23:52:59 GMT
Let's hope Wilshere goes walkabout in Moscow mouthing off,he may never return. |
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Post by nott1 on Mar 17, 2018 7:16:07 GMT
Let's hope Wilshere goes walkabout in Moscow mouthing off,he may never return. And Ramsey. |
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Post by bathstoke on Mar 17, 2018 7:34:58 GMT
Doctor, with the greatest respect, may I suggest you aquaint yourself with ‘the rivalry’ between the mighty Potters and Arsenal from say c1971/1972 and then again from c2008. This may give you some insight about the reasons why every self respecting Stoke fan hate, and I really mean hate, those north London wide boys. I thought Stoke on Trent is a city near Manchester and Liverpool but not London, this is why I thought Stoke City fans should hate Manchester teams or Liverpool more than Arsenal. We don’t have a quota on the amount of teams we hate. Let’s face it, they’re all the enemy. Spread the hateXx |
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Post by Gaz on Mar 17, 2018 7:54:41 GMT
2 - just dumb to want any Premier league team to lose
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Post by bhp on Mar 17, 2018 8:14:24 GMT
2 - just dumb to want any Premier league team to lose I can't imagine myself wanting any Premier League club to win any European game. I can't hate them when we're playing them then want them to win. Just doesn't work for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 8:31:35 GMT
2 - just dumb to want any Premier league team to lose Do you think Arsenal were willing us to win the Europa League back in the day? I hoped Spurs would do well in Europe this season, outside of that, they can all get bent. |
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Post by Veritas on Mar 17, 2018 8:32:57 GMT
I noticed that most of the members here hate Arsenal, may be because of their TV channel or something else that I dont know, for me I dont hate them I like to watch their football although it is not good enough to win games or titles but it is still better than watching Mourinho or Antonio Conte. After the recent problems between England and Russia, with talks about possibility for England not to participate in World Cup, the English team Arsenal has to travel and play in Russia against CSKA Moscow in the Europa League. I see many of the members here are not caring about the English teams participating in Champions League or Europe League, with less extent some members like these English teams to lose, and a minority like these teams to win. In case Arsenal vs CSKA Moscow there in Russia, how do you feel about it? 1- Not Caring 2- Want Arsenal to win 3- Still want Arsenal to lose 4- Just want the English fans to return safe Don't know why???? Where have you been for the last 47 years? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 8:39:01 GMT
I noticed that most of the members here hate Arsenal, may be because of their TV channel or something else that I dont know, for me I dont hate them I like to watch their football although it is not good enough to win games or titles but it is still better than watching Mourinho or Antonio Conte. After the recent problems between England and Russia, with talks about possibility for England not to participate in World Cup, the English team Arsenal has to travel and play in Russia against CSKA Moscow in the Europa League. I see many of the members here are not caring about the English teams participating in Champions League or Europe League, with less extent some members like these English teams to lose, and a minority like these teams to win. In case Arsenal vs CSKA Moscow there in Russia, how do you feel about it? 1- Not Caring 2- Want Arsenal to win 3- Still want Arsenal to lose 4- Just want the English fans to return safe Don't know why???? Where have you been for the last 47 years? Tbf I think he came on here at around the time that Sobhi signed, so he's not seen half of the bollocks we've had to put up with over the years 😂😂 |
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Post by Veritas on Mar 17, 2018 8:41:56 GMT
Don't know why???? Where have you been for the last 47 years? Tbf I think he came on here at around the time that Sobhi signed, so he's not seen half of the bollocks we've had to put up with over the years 😂😂 Once you have been on this site for about 20 minutes you shouldn't really have to ask why. |
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Post by GoBoks on Mar 17, 2018 9:15:20 GMT
Hmmm Dr your Stokie credentials may be lessening. Stoke have a long history dating back to two FA Cup Semi Finals in the early 70's to their manager's comments about us since we kept beating them at home, since we got in the Premiershit, and other things mainly 'The Ramsey Incident'. As with most top 4 - 6 teams, though I used to want English teams to do well in europe, it now just makes them stronger, financially, which is not a good thing for the rest of us! Number 3 in both ties! Football hatred goes beyond some maybe war with Russia! P.S. I thought you were studying medicine you are now up to more than 1500 posts! I worry your studies may be suffering! Thanks for the explanation, we used to study history of Pharoans in the schools and I am studying currently history of Stoke City, trust me I am not a spy. Hahaha Before graduation I had always a big dilemma in the medical school, when there is an exam and an important match, thinking about my priorities that ends up with watching the match , I had a very tough exam 3 months ago "United States Medical License Exam", and the night before the exam was a Huddersfield game and I had this dilemma that ended up with watching the game, Ramadan scoring and passing the exam My colleagues in the hospital here in Egypt love me, because I am the most flexible physician in the hospital, at the beginning of the month we make a monthly schedule and I tell them give me any shifts in any days as long as there is no matches. Hi Dr. H. If you’re interested, pm me with your contact information. I know people here in U.S. who are looking for hospitalists and PCPs. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 9:27:49 GMT
A large part of the post 2008 dislike of Arsenal (I’m hesitant to call it a rivalry as, realistically, we’re in a different league within the same league) is the simple fact that we are polar opposites of one another.
Arsenal are a metropolitan global brand based in a large, thriving (despite brexit...) world city, with a large proportion of their support being either middle-class or above, and/or having no genuine geographical affinity with the club. (Obviously they have genuine hardcore supporters as does any other club)
Stoke City on the other hand is a small (in comparison) provincial club from an old industrial region that is situated very much on the northern side of the English north/south divide. (For a USA equivalent, Stoke and Detroit are often viewed as equivalents)
Our supporter base is primarily drawn from the fairly limited North Staffordshire region, and is largely working-class.
We’re sandwiched to the north and south by two internationally significant conurbations (Manchester and Birmingham) and, coupled with the fact that we’re also the smallest city in England that is home to two professional clubs (Port Vale is in the north of Stoke-On-Trent, people from that part of the city that dont’t support Port Vale would be more likely to support Man Utd or Liverpool than Stoke City) we will always be fairly limited in terms of our ability to grow the supporter base.
Stoke City and Arsenal are polar opposites. You can’t say the same for the Manchester or Liverpool clubs. At the very least those clubs also hail from traditionally working-class, industrial regions and maintain a large hardcore support with similar cultural and socio-economic values and conditions. They say opposites attract, but clearly that isn’t true in this particular case.
In answer to your original question, I want them to return home safe. There are things so much more important than football.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Mar 17, 2018 9:30:55 GMT
5- Arsenal's finances fail leading a points deduction and relegation. Without PL money they fall to Vanarama and got bust and disappear from the face of the planet.
Let's have something we can all get behind.
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Post by raythesailor on Mar 17, 2018 9:33:08 GMT
Yes we say we hate Arsenal since the Semi Finals.
But those of us old enough to remember may recall that we intensely disliked them prior to these games, and the Semi Finals merely confirmed what a load of cheating , arrorgant scum bags they are. Story (hope that’s the correct spelling) was the dirtiest snidy player I have ever seen on a football pitch.
EDIT. Just googled him to check the spelling. Wickipedia quotes Peter Edward Storey CONVICTED CRIMMINAL and EX Arsenal player !!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 17, 2018 9:37:33 GMT
I noticed that most of the members here hate Arsenal, may be because of their TV channel or something else that I dont know, for me I dont hate them I like to watch their football although it is not good enough to win games or titles but it is still better than watching Mourinho or Antonio Conte. After the recent problems between England and Russia, with talks about possibility for England not to participate in World Cup, the English team Arsenal has to travel and play in Russia against CSKA Moscow in the Europa League. I see many of the members here are not caring about the English teams participating in Champions League or Europe League, with less extent some members like these English teams to lose, and a minority like these teams to win. In case Arsenal vs CSKA Moscow there in Russia, how do you feel about it? 1- Not Caring 2- Want Arsenal to win 3- Still want Arsenal to lose 4- Just want the English fans to return safe Don't know why???? Where have you been for the last 47 years? He's been in Egypt for most of his life - and I doubt he is 47 years old. How aware are you of the history of your favourite provincial Egyptian football club? I expect Dr Hesham knows more about Stoke's history than you do about any team in Egypt.  |
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Post by Pedropotter on Mar 17, 2018 9:38:16 GMT
A large part of the post 2008 dislike of Arsenal (I’m hesitant to call it a rivalry as, realistically, we’re in a different league within the same league) is the simple fact that we are polar opposites of one another. Arsenal are a metropolitan global brand based in a large, thriving (despite brexit...) world city, with a large proportion of their support being either middle-class or above, and/or having no genuine geographical affinity with the club. (Obviously they have genuine hardcore supporters as does any other club) Stoke City on the other hand is a small (in comparison) provincial club from an old industrial region that is situated very much on the northern side of the English north/south divide. (For a USA equivalent, Stoke and Detroit are often viewed as equivalents) Our supporter base is primarily drawn from the fairly limited North Staffordshire region, and is largely working-class. We’re sandwiched to the north and south by two internationally significant conurbations (Manchester and Birmingham) and, coupled with the fact that we’re also the smallest city in England that is home to two professional clubs (Port Vale is in the north of Stoke-On-Trent, people from that part of the city that dont’t support Port Vale would be more likely to support Man Utd or Liverpool than Stoke City) we will always be fairly limited in terms of our ability to grow the supporter base. Stoke City and Arsenal are polar opposites. You can’t say the same for the Manchester or Liverpool clubs. At the very least those clubs also hail from traditionally working-class, industrial regions and maintain a large hardcore support with similar cultural and socio-economic values and conditions. They say opposites attract, but clearly that isn’t true in this particular case. In answer to your original question, I want them to return home safe. There are things so much more important than football. Nicely put. |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Mar 17, 2018 11:19:40 GMT
I want Arsenal to win.
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Post by chayzenbacon on Mar 17, 2018 11:27:44 GMT
5. A pox on the fucking lot of them.
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Post by professorplump on Mar 17, 2018 11:45:40 GMT
Arsenal's trip to Moscow will be an interesting test case. If their fans get attacked by the locals then that will increase the pressure for England to pull out of the World Cup.
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