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Post by simple on Mar 13, 2018 18:12:19 GMT
Last night showed how poor our support is,we were playing a team that most proberly the best club side in the last 25years.We are not playing well,we are in the bottom three,but for thousands to not turn up when the team needs our support is not good.God knows what our attendances would be in the Championship.Maybe the three clubs who’s fans have deserted them will be the three that go down.WBA,Southampton and us.The other teams around us seem to have the backing of there fans except West Sham But that’s a different situation.
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Post by nott1 on Mar 13, 2018 18:13:19 GMT
Not on last nights showing!
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Post by wuzza on Mar 13, 2018 18:19:32 GMT
The club have taken a growing and enthusiastic fan base and drained the living daylights out of it over the course of the past couple of years. That’s where the guilt (if there is any) lies.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 13, 2018 18:22:37 GMT
I don't think there's many clubs that have been in the prem for a similar amount of time with nothing to play for that have a great atmosphere tbh, it just gets a bit dull regardless if you're stuck in mid table knowing at the end of the season there's nothing to show for it, now we're in a relegation fight its hard to get out of that mindset.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Mar 13, 2018 18:27:29 GMT
Yes we do deserve a top flight team but to get that you need ambitious owners who can act at the right time. You also need a good transfer team who can identify good players & get the deals done. We the fans could see which way things were going but were ignored so you can not really blame people for staying away or leaving a game early when defeat is obvious.
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Post by simple on Mar 13, 2018 18:30:42 GMT
Yes we do deserve a top flight team but to get that you need ambitious owners who can act at the right time. You also need a good transfer team who can identify good players & get the deals done. We the fans could see which way things were going but were ignored so you can not really blame people for staying away or leaving a game early when defeat is obvious. So when the going gets tough we f**k off,then when we do well you turn up.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Mar 13, 2018 18:30:57 GMT
Oh look, here's Simple slagging off Stoke's support yet again...
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Mar 13, 2018 18:35:21 GMT
Aye that’s why Leeds are above us obviously.
Fucking duh.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 13, 2018 18:36:09 GMT
Last seasons final home game should have given the idiots in charge a clue, the lap of dishonour was witnessed by a few thousand hardcore fans the rest of the ground was empty. The apathy that Hughes installed spread from him to the players and ultimately to the supporters, a blind man would have known how the fans felt about Mark and his teams efforts but still they kept them in charge, this abortion of aseason was easily avoidable and entirely self inflicted.
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Post by butlerstbob on Mar 13, 2018 18:36:12 GMT
The supporters are the last folk that should be taking blame, simple....to right you are!
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 13, 2018 18:37:18 GMT
Last night showed how poor our support is,we were playing a team that most proberly the best club side in the last 25years.We are not playing well,we are in the bottom three,but for thousands to not turn up when the team needs our support is not good.God knows what our attendances would be in the Championship.Maybe the three clubs who’s fans have deserted them will be the three that go down.WBA,Southampton and us.The other teams around us seem to have the backing of there fans except West Sham But that’s a different situation. I was busy watching the traffic lights changing at Weston coyney so for that reason I’m out
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Post by owdestokie2 on Mar 13, 2018 18:46:53 GMT
The supporters and the City do. I’ll leave you to figure out the rest
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Post by simple on Mar 13, 2018 18:48:11 GMT
Oh look, here's Simple slagging off Stoke's support yet again... I have not slagged any Stoke fan off ,all I am saying is are we a footballing city that deserves a top flight team,we didn’t back the team in vast numbers in the 70s when the board invested iin the team and due to the low revenue from the attendances we were on the brink of bankruptcy even before the roof blew off. Our season tickets are good value,our board have spent millions over the last 12 years on the ground,training ground and the team.Our wage bill takes nearly all the Sky money up leaving little left,so we rely on indervidule board members putting there money in the club.So we either need to get more revenue in or find more outside investment.We have been left behind in the financial standing .
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Post by luke45 on Mar 13, 2018 18:59:12 GMT
It wouldn't matter who we were playing last night and what significance the game had, a Monday evening 8pm kick off live on TV is always going to result in a fair amount of empty seats. People travelling long distances can't always get out of work in time to get down, parents with children with school the next day aren't prepared to get home at 11pm when they can watch it from their living room. It's their decision at the end of the day isn't it and I don't think last nights empty seats are a reflection on people lacking support for the team at all. I was fortunate I was able to get the day off work so I made the 250 mile round trip from Cumbria with two others but it's not always that easy.
It was a strange and subdued atmosphere before the game even started last night I thought, almost a sense of resignation from our fans at what was to come. And that's hardly surprising really is it, that was a World class Man City side and we've won 6 out of 30 league games now. I'm hopeful the atmosphere will improve for our remaining home games but it's not always easy to generate it when there's a lot of tension in the game and plenty at stake.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 19:05:34 GMT
More worried about the people who spout constant shite than those who don't come.
Bloke behind me says 'Fuck off Shaqiri, £80k a week, you must be joking!', screams at players to 'just tackle him' like it's that fucking easy, and whines at absolutely any pass we make, good or bad.
Madness.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Mar 13, 2018 19:11:08 GMT
Yes we do deserve a top flight team but to get that you need ambitious owners who can act at the right time. You also need a good transfer team who can identify good players & get the deals done. We the fans could see which way things were going but were ignored so you can not really blame people for staying away or leaving a game early when defeat is obvious. So when the going gets tough we f**k off,then when we do well you turn up. Always turn up pal not missed a home game in 4 years & i will still be there if we go down i was speaking in general terms as to how some fans feel about the current position we find ourselves in.
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Post by mozzer on Mar 13, 2018 19:11:48 GMT
Last night showed how poor our support is,we were playing a team that most proberly the best club side in the last 25years.We are not playing well,we are in the bottom three,but for thousands to not turn up when the team needs our support is not good.God knows what our attendances would be in the Championship.Maybe the three clubs who’s fans have deserted them will be the three that go down.WBA,Southampton and us.The other teams around us seem to have the backing of there fans except West Sham But that’s a different situation. What a complete crock of arse gravy, and who are you may we ask the newly appointed cheif of attendance police, if you were around way before the glory years you would know exactly the answer to your question before the jcls arrived, if the club continue with operation cluster fuck in another 3 years we will be back down to the anticipated 10k if we are shit, 14k if we are ticking along and 18k if we are doing well, but rest assured blossom that no matter how loud you and your mates cheer in the run in it will not ........ Make the pain of last season or the despair of this season disappear Lift Stoke out of the bracket of laughing stock Help Coates dig deep for the required players next year Offer insight to The recruitment team to learn their job and spot a player Make the club appoint a manager other than someone who has nothing else to do Convince Butland to re-sign for stoke Keep the fancy Dan premier league journey men from putting out feelers Make choupo moting a player that tracks back and covers defensively Show the forwards where the back of the net is You keep cheering but save some for this year's lap of dis-honour....now that will be interesting
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Post by blackpoolred on Mar 13, 2018 19:12:35 GMT
Alright for people who live in Stoke to say this, but if you have to travel when you know you are going to lose and know your team won't touch the ball or create many chances(as it happens none at all) or when you know your team are going to show no ambition whatsoever - the motivation does wane a little
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Post by simple on Mar 13, 2018 19:13:34 GMT
More worried about the people who spout constant shite than those who don't come. Bloke behind me says 'Fuck off Shaqiri, £80k a week, you must be joking!', screams at players to 'just tackle him' like it's that fucking easy, and whines at absolutely any pass we make, good or bad. Madness. Totally agree,some of the comments at half time ,went like they aren’t that good,we need to kick them.I am sure we would of kicked them if we could of got close to them.Best team I have seen in years,passing ,pace movement and getting the ball back they work like no other team.
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Post by elystokie on Mar 13, 2018 19:14:50 GMT
It wouldn't matter who we were playing last night and what significance the game had, a Monday evening 8pm kick off live on TV is always going to result in a fair amount of empty seats. People travelling long distances can't always get out of work in time to get down, parents with children with school the next day aren't prepared to get home at 11pm when they can watch it from their living room. It's their decision at the end of the day isn't it and I don't think last nights empty seats are a reflection on people lacking support for the team at all. I was fortunate I was able to get the day off work so I made the 250 mile round trip from Cumbria with two others but it's not always that easy. It was a strange and subdued atmosphere before the game even started last night I thought, almost a sense of resignation from our fans at what was to come. And that's hardly surprising really is it, that was a World class Man City side and we've won 6 out of 30 league games now. I'm hopeful the atmosphere will improve for our remaining home games but it's not always easy to generate it when there's a lot of tension in the game and plenty at stake. I agree about exiles etc. Can't help thinking that in this age of wonderful technology there must be a way of creating a win-win situation whereby the ST holder gets a couple of quid (or gives it to charity) and someone gets to sit in their seat.
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Post by simple on Mar 13, 2018 19:15:12 GMT
So when the going gets tough we f**k off,then when we do well you turn up. Always turn up pal not missed a home game in 4 years & i will still be there if we go down i was speaking in general terms as to how some fans feel about the current position we find ourselves in. No problem
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Post by simple on Mar 13, 2018 19:18:47 GMT
Last night showed how poor our support is,we were playing a team that most proberly the best club side in the last 25years.We are not playing well,we are in the bottom three,but for thousands to not turn up when the team needs our support is not good.God knows what our attendances would be in the Championship.Maybe the three clubs who’s fans have deserted them will be the three that go down.WBA,Southampton and us.The other teams around us seem to have the backing of there fans except West Sham But that’s a different situation. What a complete crock of arse gravy, and who are you may we ask the newly appointed cheif of attendance police, if you were around way before the glory years you would know exactly the answer to your question before the jcls arrived, if the club continue with operation cluster fuck in another 3 years we will be back down to the anticipated 10k if we are shit, 14k if we are ticking along and 18k if we are doing well, but rest assured blossom that no matter how loud you and your mates cheer in the run in it will not ........ Make the pain of last season or the despair of this season disappear Lift Stoke out of the bracket of laughing stock Help Coates dig deep for the required players next year Offer insight to The recruitment team to learn their job and spot a player Make the club appoint a manager other than someone who has nothing else to do Convince Butland to re-sign for stoke Keep the fancy Dan premier league journey men from putting out feelers Make choupo moting a player that tracks back and covers defensively Show the forwards where the back of the net is You keep cheering but save some for this year's lap of dis-honour....now that will be interesting I asked a question as a city do we deserve a top flight team as our history shows we don’t back the team in large numbers.
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Post by mozzer on Mar 13, 2018 19:20:38 GMT
What a complete crock of arse gravy, and who are you may we ask the newly appointed cheif of attendance police, if you were around way before the glory years you would know exactly the answer to your question before the jcls arrived, if the club continue with operation cluster fuck in another 3 years we will be back down to the anticipated 10k if we are shit, 14k if we are ticking along and 18k if we are doing well, but rest assured blossom that no matter how loud you and your mates cheer in the run in it will not ........ Make the pain of last season or the despair of this season disappear Lift Stoke out of the bracket of laughing stock Help Coates dig deep for the required players next year Offer insight to The recruitment team to learn their job and spot a player Make the club appoint a manager other than someone who has nothing else to do Convince Butland to re-sign for stoke Keep the fancy Dan premier league journey men from putting out feelers Make choupo moting a player that tracks back and covers defensively Show the forwards where the back of the net is You keep cheering but save some for this year's lap of dis-honour....now that will be interesting I asked a question as a city do we deserve a top flight team as our history shows we don’t back the team in large numbers. Out of interest simple, how old are you
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Post by simple on Mar 13, 2018 19:21:28 GMT
It wouldn't matter who we were playing last night and what significance the game had, a Monday evening 8pm kick off live on TV is always going to result in a fair amount of empty seats. People travelling long distances can't always get out of work in time to get down, parents with children with school the next day aren't prepared to get home at 11pm when they can watch it from their living room. It's their decision at the end of the day isn't it and I don't think last nights empty seats are a reflection on people lacking support for the team at all. I was fortunate I was able to get the day off work so I made the 250 mile round trip from Cumbria with two others but it's not always that easy. It was a strange and subdued atmosphere before the game even started last night I thought, almost a sense of resignation from our fans at what was to come. And that's hardly surprising really is it, that was a World class Man City side and we've won 6 out of 30 league games now. I'm hopeful the atmosphere will improve for our remaining home games but it's not always easy to generate it when there's a lot of tension in the game and plenty at stake. I agree about exiles etc. Can't help thinking that in this age of wonderful technology there must be a way of creating a win-win situation whereby the ST holder gets a couple of quid (or gives it to charity) and someone gets to sit in their seat. Someone said on another’s thread about the price of season tickets been a part of the problem,at £19 a game you can miss a view and still be quids in.
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Post by werrington on Mar 13, 2018 19:22:51 GMT
What a complete crock of arse gravy, and who are you may we ask the newly appointed cheif of attendance police, if you were around way before the glory years you would know exactly the answer to your question before the jcls arrived, if the club continue with operation cluster fuck in another 3 years we will be back down to the anticipated 10k if we are shit, 14k if we are ticking along and 18k if we are doing well, but rest assured blossom that no matter how loud you and your mates cheer in the run in it will not ........ Make the pain of last season or the despair of this season disappear Lift Stoke out of the bracket of laughing stock Help Coates dig deep for the required players next year Offer insight to The recruitment team to learn their job and spot a player Make the club appoint a manager other than someone who has nothing else to do Convince Butland to re-sign for stoke Keep the fancy Dan premier league journey men from putting out feelers Make choupo moting a player that tracks back and covers defensively Show the forwards where the back of the net is You keep cheering but save some for this year's lap of dis-honour....now that will be interesting I asked a question as a city do we deserve a top flight team as our history shows we don’t back the team in large numbers. We back the team in the same amount of numbers as any other club of our size You advocating a 7 team premier league?
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Post by potterblade on Mar 13, 2018 19:24:19 GMT
League table says no and we are having the worst season in a generation so you can't blame the fans if the prospect of a thrashing by the champions elect leaves them a little cold.
There were 57,000 at West Ham on Saturday and based on the clubs catchment area alone we should be battling it out at the foot of the championship not the Prem. Plenty bigger clubs than us in the leagues below would give everything for the opportunity we still have to stay in this league.
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Post by simple on Mar 13, 2018 19:26:16 GMT
I asked a question as a city do we deserve a top flight team as our history shows we don’t back the team in large numbers. Out of interest simple, how old are you I am 61 first game Stans testamonial my grandad took me,I get frustrated if you were lucky enough to be around in the 70s we were on the brink of greatness,but as fans we did not turn up .And the same is happening again.
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Post by simple on Mar 13, 2018 19:28:26 GMT
I asked a question as a city do we deserve a top flight team as our history shows we don’t back the team in large numbers. We back the team in the same amount of numbers as any other club of our size You advocating a 7 team premier league? I may be wrong but are we not the 13th biggest city in the country.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Mar 13, 2018 19:29:33 GMT
Last night showed how poor our support is,we were playing a team that most proberly the best club side in the last 25years.We are not playing well,we are in the bottom three,but for thousands to not turn up when the team needs our support is not good.God knows what our attendances would be in the Championship.Maybe the three clubs who’s fans have deserted them will be the three that go down.WBA,Southampton and us.The other teams around us seem to have the backing of there fans except West Sham But that’s a different situation. Typical attitude that it is our fault - well done
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Post by Linx on Mar 13, 2018 19:36:18 GMT
I can't be bothered reading through this thread. In answer to the rather facile question:
Of course we fucking do!
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