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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 13, 2018 7:53:37 GMT
Anyone notice that the fitness guru had the cones lined up on the touchline for the players to do their little shuttle sprints as they came out for the 2nd half?
Players came out of the tunnel, ignored them completely so fitness guru just picked them up and retreated to the bench.
Good strong management again with a team fully on board with the managers demands.
It's laughable really.
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Post by potterpaul on Mar 13, 2018 8:09:24 GMT
It's little things like that, that sums the club up as whole. Halfhearted
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Post by BristolMick on Mar 13, 2018 8:15:55 GMT
Whether we stay up or go down we need a root and branch redesign of everything to do with the first team at this club. Last night was an extremely depressing experience and it’s clear that this team has no DNA and little in the way of team spirit. Jesé, Mouting and one or two others barely broke into a sweat.
BM
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 13, 2018 8:17:42 GMT
Whether we stay up or go down we need a root and branch redesign of everything to do with the first team at this club. Last night was an extremely depressing experience and it’s clear that this team has no DNA and little in the way of team spirit. Jesé, Mouting and one or two others barely broke into a sweat. BM Indeed. It's soul destroying watching this team at the moment. 3 of my pals, that I've supported stoke with my whole life, simply didn't bother to turn up last night. |
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Mar 13, 2018 8:19:21 GMT
Whether we stay up or go down we need a root and branch redesign of everything to do with the first team at this club. Last night was an extremely depressing experience and it’s clear that this team has no DNA and little in the way of team spirit. Jesé, Mouting and one or two others barely broke into a sweat. BM Overpaid, over rated, under worked & over here! Individuals who are half arsed leeches who couldn't fight out of a paper bag |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 8:20:12 GMT
Whether we stay up or go down we need a root and branch redesign of everything to do with the first team at this club. Last night was an extremely depressing experience and it’s clear that this team has no DNA and little in the way of team spirit. Jesé, Mouting and one or two others barely broke into a sweat. BM Absolutely. The whole club however is stale. It needs a complete rethink. It is what it is at the moment and theres not a lot anyone can do to change things. Serious questions need to be asked at the end of the season. |
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Mar 13, 2018 8:56:20 GMT
Sometimes I could almost cry to witness the state we now find ourselves in.
Oh how I hanker for the days when you were either a PHW or Rimmer for ideological reasons but we’re always ensured 110% commitment on the pitch.
Just how, in just a few short years, has it come to this?
There’s been your periferal pantomime villains like Scholes, Cartwright and to an extent Coates himself, but the man who should shoulder 95% of the blame is your man, Mark Leslie Hughes!
Lambert, whether you think he’s the right man for the job or not, has a totally thankless task of trying to integrate a rabble of Dads Army veterans and Contintal show ponies into a viable footballing unit.
Of course, it’s an impossible task and will undoubtedly result in Championship football at the 365 next season.
As I say, I could almost cry at what Hughes has reduced us to.
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Post by thegift on Mar 13, 2018 8:58:13 GMT
Anyone notice that the fitness guru had the cones lined up on the touchline for the players to do their little shuttle sprints as they came out for the 2nd half? Players came out of the tunnel, ignored them completely so fitness guru just picked them up and retreated to the bench. Good strong management again with a team fully on board with the managers demands. It's laughable really. I didn't see this, and thankfully. What a fucking disgrace. |
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Post by reddipotter on Mar 13, 2018 9:02:58 GMT
I've seen some bizarre reasons to criticise a manager, but this just about takes the biscuit.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Mar 13, 2018 9:07:44 GMT
My goodness it is boring watching us trudge around at the moment
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Post by mrred on Mar 13, 2018 9:17:04 GMT
So no better than under Hughes then? The half time warm ups used to consist of 3 players knocking a ball to each other in the most labored manner possible. It's frustrating that these cunts represent our club, from the management to the players. I'd say they're letting themselves down but I really don't think a number of them have any fucks to give.
Call it small minded to criticise the warm ups, but it's representative of the attitude of the whole club. Completely not arsed, lethargic shite.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 13, 2018 9:24:31 GMT
I've seen some bizarre reasons to criticise a manager, but this just about takes the biscuit. It was a criticism of the players more than anything else. |
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Post by fentonite on Mar 13, 2018 9:30:35 GMT
I've seen some bizarre reasons to criticise a manager, but this just about takes the biscuit. It was a criticism of the players more than anything else. |
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Post by fentonite on Mar 13, 2018 9:34:40 GMT
In reality Man City were out on the pitch waiting for us because we were out late. There wasn’t time to do the warm up prior to the 2nd half kick off.
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Post by thegift on Mar 13, 2018 9:35:40 GMT
In reality Man City were out on the pitch waiting for us because we were out late. There wasn’t time to do the warm up prior to the 2nd half kick off. Hopefully they were getting a rocket up their arse. |
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 13, 2018 9:42:21 GMT
In reality Man City were out on the pitch waiting for us because we were out late. There wasn’t time to do the warm up prior to the 2nd half kick off. You've spoilt in for the moaners, whingers, and grumblers. |
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Post by potterpaul on Mar 13, 2018 9:50:03 GMT
In reality Man City were out on the pitch waiting for us because we were out late. There wasn’t time to do the warm up prior to the 2nd half kick off. Hopefully they were getting a rocket up their arse. Or maybe (more likely) not |
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Post by steewee on Mar 13, 2018 10:20:16 GMT
It's such a difficult art to manage different skill sets. Pulis had a team of poor footballers who wanted to succeed and the only way for them to do so was through hard work, fitness etc. So they buy in to that regime as they desperately want to make it in the big leagues. Hughes has changed that somewhat by bringing more talented footballers who are higher maintenance and he can't treat them the same way (I.e make them run themselves stupid). It works for a time as the sheer skill and tenancity of the team kept us moving forward.
Unfortunately we hit a plateau and some players fell out of form and/or got injured. Our game suffers as a result and skill and footballing ability couldn't carry us forward. Our fitness and hard work mentality went and nothing was done to rectify it. It's not as easy to say just make them run themselves stupid, not all players are built like that.
We've got a badly balanced squad and only the management can take the blame.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Mar 13, 2018 10:24:57 GMT
The warm-up is completely pointless, but if your management team asks you to do it - and you respect them you do it.
Unacceptable from the players to me.
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Post by marrer on Mar 13, 2018 10:30:11 GMT
I've seen some bizarre reasons to criticise a manager, but this just about takes the biscuit. Shhh..... don't wake him up |
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 14, 2018 10:22:41 GMT
The warm-up is completely pointless, but if your management team asks you to do it - and you respect them you do it. Unacceptable from the players to me. That screams of ignorance. The whole point is to warm and stretch muscles and other soft tissues to enhance performance and minimise the risk of injury, which has reduced since PL arrived. The idea of starting a physical competition, whatever it is without warming up is ludicrous. Athletes spend typically 10 - 30 minutes warming up before they compete, for a whole host of reasons which have been scientifically exhaustively studied. It is especially important after a lot of exertion (first 45 min) and then restarting after a break. |
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Mar 14, 2018 10:25:50 GMT
The warm-up is completely pointless, but if your management team asks you to do it - and you respect them you do it. Unacceptable from the players to me. That screams of ignorance. The whole point is to warm and stretch muscles and other soft tissues to enhance performance and minimise the risk of injury, which has reduced since PL arrived. The idea of starting a physical competition, whatever it is without warming up is ludicrous. Athletes spend typically 10 - 30 minutes warming up before they compete, for a whole host of reasons which have been scientifically exhaustively studied. It is especially important after a lot of exertion (first 45 min) and then restarting after a break. By running through 4 cones? |
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 14, 2018 10:33:58 GMT
That screams of ignorance. The whole point is to warm and stretch muscles and other soft tissues to enhance performance and minimise the risk of injury, which has reduced since PL arrived. The idea of starting a physical competition, whatever it is without warming up is ludicrous. Athletes spend typically 10 - 30 minutes warming up before they compete, for a whole host of reasons which have been scientifically exhaustively studied. It is especially important after a lot of exertion (first 45 min) and then restarting after a break. By running through 4 cones? Yes, this is how it can be done; there are variants on this theme: |
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