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Post by gingerninja on Mar 11, 2018 13:46:16 GMT
Before I start I am not anti Lambert, in fact I quite like the guy, but I am worried when we have the ball we fail to use it, hence the poor pass completion. I know stats aren't everything but they have certainly dropped since Lambert arrived.
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Post by forwhatitsworth on Mar 11, 2018 13:48:25 GMT
I know what has dropped, goals conceded and losses.
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Post by gingerninja on Mar 11, 2018 13:52:02 GMT
I agree, but to win games we have to attack & score more, hanging onto the ball better will give us a better platform to build up sustained periods of pressure.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 11, 2018 14:20:13 GMT
Will it though? How much possession do Leicester have on average? Newcastle won 3-0 yesterday with 37% possession.
Our problem is we don’t really have a squad built for anything. We don’t have the legs to press as a team, we don’t have the pace to hit teams on the break particularly well, we don’t have the quality on the ball to play possession football.
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Post by gingerninja on Mar 11, 2018 14:33:07 GMT
Toxic, a pretty accurate sum it, depressingly spot on, hence we are where we are!!
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Post by forwhatitsworth on Mar 11, 2018 14:41:56 GMT
Looks to me like Lambert has worked extremely hard on fitness and made examples of those who aren't up to it hence over 30M £'s worth of players not making the bench even (Wimm & Bera). He is organising us better defensively hence the less goals leaked. But going forward we aren't as organised and we need that to get the goals we need to turn these draws into wins. We have the pace on the wings and up front and with the exception of one or two what we do lack as you rightly say is quality in possession and that final killer pass.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 11, 2018 14:44:00 GMT
Who has the pace though? Diouf is quick and Bauer is quick but nobody else is properly, shit off a shovel rapid.
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Post by senojbor on Mar 11, 2018 14:46:28 GMT
At least the opposition aren't passing the ball into the back of our net on a regular basis and our goals for/against is improving
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 11, 2018 14:48:29 GMT
Will it though? How much possession do Leicester have on average? Newcastle won 3-0 yesterday with 37% possession. Our problem is we don’t really have a squad built for anything. We don’t have the legs to press as a team, we don’t have the pace to hit teams on the break particularly well, we don’t have the quality on the ball to play possession football. We are a nothing team, aren't we? We can't point to anything that we do really well. That's why we are where we are.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 15:21:11 GMT
The 4231 gave us better feel in possession. if we wanted to pass the ball, I think we're good enough.
Butland Bauer Zouma Indi Stafylidis Allen Cameron Shaqiri Ireland Jese Not Diouf
We'd probably be quick on the break with that too, Ireland tends to pass the ball off quickly and precisely, something we've needed for years.
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Post by Miles Offside on Mar 11, 2018 16:16:31 GMT
Before I start I am not anti Lambert, in fact I quite like the guy, but I am worried when we have the ball we fail to use it, hence the poor pass completion. I know stats aren't everything but they have certainly dropped since Lambert arrived. Other than a very good spell under Hughes, particularly when Bojan was at his best, too much of our passing since Pulis left has been the "safe" option that's good for the stats but doesn't hurt the opposition. Players like Bojan and Arnie made a huge difference because of their ability to keep and use the ball in the final third. But they've gone and for some bizarre reason we keep playing one up front, the ball isn't retained, comes straight back and leaves with nothing to pass to at the sharp end.
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 11, 2018 16:26:38 GMT
At least the opposition aren't passing the ball into the back of our net on a regular basis and our goals for/against is improving Our goal difference has improved by a massive 1 goal. Next.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Mar 11, 2018 16:35:47 GMT
At least the opposition aren't passing the ball into the back of our net on a regular basis and our goals for/against is improving Our goal difference has improved by a massive 1 goal. Next. I don't get why you're mocking that. In Lamberts half-a-dozen games our GD is plus one, in Hughes' twenty-two it was minus twenty-five. That's a massive turn around.
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Post by forwhatitsworth on Mar 11, 2018 16:43:05 GMT
Our goal difference has improved by a massive 1 goal. Next. I don't get why you're mocking that. In Lamberts half-a-dozen games our GD is plus one, in Hughes' twenty-two it was minus twenty-five. That's a massive turn around. Spot on The DC! It's a massive turnaround. Just need start scoring and winning games now. But the rot has stopped at least.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Mar 11, 2018 16:47:24 GMT
Our goal difference has improved by a massive 1 goal. Next. I don't get why you're mocking that. In Lamberts half-a-dozen games our GD is plus one, in Hughes' twenty-two it was minus twenty-five. That's a massive turn around. Pugs is still upset he's had to take his Hughes avatar down, that's all.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Mar 11, 2018 17:06:39 GMT
At least the opposition aren't passing the ball into the back of our net on a regular basis and our goals for/against is improving Our goal difference has improved by a massive 1 goal. Next. But those around us have got a lot worse so we are not quite the outlier we were at the start of the year.
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 11, 2018 17:30:03 GMT
Our goal difference has improved by a massive 1 goal. Next. I don't get why you're mocking that. In Lamberts half-a-dozen games our GD is plus one, in Hughes' twenty-two it was minus twenty-five. That's a massive turn around. I'm mocking it because of the tone from the poster. We have to win games of football and to do that we have to score goals. We look like doing neither. We've improved the defence by playing a flat back 9 yet some see it as a master stroke. Lambert has to get the balance right or we're going down.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Mar 11, 2018 17:38:54 GMT
I don't get why you're mocking that. In Lamberts half-a-dozen games our GD is plus one, in Hughes' twenty-two it was minus twenty-five. That's a massive turn around. I'm mocking it because of the tone from the poster. We have to win games of football and to do that we have to score goals. We look like doing neither. We've improved the defence by playing a flat back 9 yet some see it as a master stroke. Lambert has to get the balance right or we're going down. We do need to score more goals I agree, Lambert is no worse than Hughes in this regard though. His half-a-dozen games have seen us score five goals, Hughes' twenty-two games saw us score twenty-three. So both managers were going along at around a goal per game (Which isn't good enough) But Lambert has massively improved us defensively & atleast given us a chance of staying up.
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 11, 2018 17:43:28 GMT
I'm mocking it because of the tone from the poster. We have to win games of football and to do that we have to score goals. We look like doing neither. We've improved the defence by playing a flat back 9 yet some see it as a master stroke. Lambert has to get the balance right or we're going down. We do need to score more goals I agree, Lambert is no worse than Hughes in this regard though. His half-a-dozen games have seen us score five goals, Hughes' twenty-two games saw us score twenty-three. So both managers were going along at around a goal per game (Which isn't good enough) But Lambert has massively improved us defensively & atleast given us a chance of staying up. Hughes isn't the manager, Lambert is. He has been employed to save us. He doesn't look like doing it with the way he sets his team up to play. He has had the 6 easiest games of the season and hasn't secured enough points. We'll see tomorrow night how much he has 'improved' things. Hopefully he has.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Mar 11, 2018 17:43:52 GMT
I'm mocking it because of the tone from the poster. We have to win games of football and to do that we have to score goals. We look like doing neither. We've improved the defence by playing a flat back 9 yet some see it as a master stroke. Lambert has to get the balance right or we're going down. We do need to score more goals I agree, Lambert is no worse than Hughes in this regard though. His half-a-dozen games have seen us score five goals, Hughes' twenty-two games saw us score twenty-three. So both managers were going along at around a goal per game (Which isn't good enough) But Lambert has massively improved us defensively & atleast given us a chance of staying up. Sanity
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 11, 2018 19:27:22 GMT
I'm mocking it because of the tone from the poster. We have to win games of football and to do that we have to score goals. We look like doing neither. We've improved the defence by playing a flat back 9 yet some see it as a master stroke. Lambert has to get the balance right or we're going down. We do need to score more goals I agree, Lambert is no worse than Hughes in this regard though. His half-a-dozen games have seen us score five goals, Hughes' twenty-two games saw us score twenty-three. So both managers were going along at around a goal per game (Which isn't good enough) But Lambert has massively improved us defensively & atleast given us a chance of staying up. It's easy to score more goals and pick up more wins. All we have to do is: 1. Convert penalties. 2. Not deflect the ball into our own goal. 3. Not miss chances to score with only the GK to beat. Simples!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 20:38:44 GMT
Our goal difference has improved by a massive 1 goal. Next. I don't get why you're mocking that. In Lamberts half-a-dozen games our GD is plus one, in Hughes' twenty-two it was minus twenty-five. That's a massive turn around. Who has PL played against to get that massive turn around ? And how many points did LMH get in the same fixtures?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 11, 2018 22:30:41 GMT
At least the opposition aren't passing the ball into the back of our net on a regular basis and our goals for/against is improving Our goal difference has improved by a massive 1 goal. Next. A very salutary point . Mind you it was pretty obvious When the bloke himself admits likeable as he is says I never thought I’d manage at this level again I dont care what choice i was , there’s a clue in there . Another point Is both clubs who were forced by their own budget , and paucity of approach to take managers way down their list are going to be relegated . WBA and us , when will we ever learn it’s the most critical appointment we should with our resources be able to meet a QSF or O’Neil or better , the brutal facts are we can’t attract a manager who has got a job . The more I read that article today the more I think we are even more deluded than even I feared the timing of Hughes sacking is irrelevant the fact he ran out of steam because of the leaders lack of enthusiasm to invest is the core issue and that’s why Lambert is doomed .said at the time he was available only Fat Sam could have saved this lot with a full window and good backing but he was a clear £10m dearer than lambert and his keep fit instructors .
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Post by miltonstokienew on Mar 11, 2018 22:53:05 GMT
Our goal difference has improved by a massive 1 goal. Next. A very salutary point . Mind you it was pretty obvious When the bloke himself admits likeable as he is says I never thought I’d manage at this level again I dont care what choice i was , there’s a clue in there . Another point Is both clubs who were forced by their own budget , and paucity of approach to take managers way down their list are going to be relegated . WBA and us , when will we ever learn it’s the most critical appointment we should with our resources be able to meet a QSF or O’Neil or better , the brutal facts are we can’t attract a manager who has got a job . The more I read that article today the more I think we are even more deluded than even I feared the timing of Hughes sacking is irrelevant the fact he ran out of steam because of the leaders lack of enthusiasm to invest is the core issue and that’s why Lambert is doomed .said at the time he was available only Fat Sam could have saved this lot with a full window and good backing but he was a clear £10m dearer than lambert and his keep fit instructors . You remind me of Chris Eubank ... you throw in words like paucity and salutary like its your normal vocabulary. Trying to act cleverer than you are. Your sitting there with a thesaurus. In truth your a middle aged man , full of shit , cannot spell for shit, who craves a reaction. Also kmown as an attention seeking bellend. Im pretty sure this is your favourite premier league season ???
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 12, 2018 2:16:26 GMT
A very salutary point . Mind you it was pretty obvious When the bloke himself admits likeable as he is says I never thought I’d manage at this level again I dont care what choice i was , there’s a clue in there . Another point Is both clubs who were forced by their own budget , and paucity of approach to take managers way down their list are going to be relegated . WBA and us , when will we ever learn it’s the most critical appointment we should with our resources be able to meet a QSF or O’Neil or better , the brutal facts are we can’t attract a manager who has got a job . The more I read that article today the more I think we are even more deluded than even I feared the timing of Hughes sacking is irrelevant the fact he ran out of steam because of the leaders lack of enthusiasm to invest is the core issue and that’s why Lambert is doomed .said at the time he was available only Fat Sam could have saved this lot with a full window and good backing but he was a clear £10m dearer than lambert and his keep fit instructors . You remind me of Chris Eubank ... you throw in words like paucity and salutary like its your normal vocabulary. Trying to act cleverer than you are. Your sitting there with a thesaurus. In truth your a middle aged man , full of shit , cannot spell for shit, who craves a reaction. Also kmown as an attention seeking bellend. Im pretty sure this is your favourite premier league season ??? So Ironic that someone handing out a lecture on spelling spells Known Kmown , it’s not my fault that my vocabulary is broad and as yuh spell thesaurus perhaps you could get one . As for this season I’ve hated every second but I could see it coming as many could , probably the worst scenario on leaving the last game last season was we return with the same manager , don’t back him , sell our best player and make a profit on transfer from a squad in free fall , few could imagine that was the plan in that empty ground that day , save your venom for those that oversaw that debacle .
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 12, 2018 3:19:48 GMT
You remind me of Chris Eubank ... you throw in words like paucity and salutary like its your normal vocabulary. Trying to act cleverer than you are. Your sitting there with a thesaurus. In truth your a middle aged man , full of shit , cannot spell for shit, who craves a reaction. Also kmown as an attention seeking bellend. Im pretty sure this is your favourite premier league season ??? So Ironic that someone handing out a lecture on spelling spells Known Kmown , it’s not my fault that my vocabulary is broad and as yuh spell thesaurus perhaps you could get one . As for this season I’ve hated every second but I could see it coming as many could , probably the worst scenario on leaving the last game last season was we return with the same manager , don’t back him , sell our best player and make a profit on transfer from a squad in free fall , few could imagine that was the plan in that empty ground that day , save your venom for those that oversaw that debacle . You reckon you were right though and that's the main thing eh?
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 12, 2018 7:26:10 GMT
We do need to score more goals I agree, Lambert is no worse than Hughes in this regard though. His half-a-dozen games have seen us score five goals, Hughes' twenty-two games saw us score twenty-three. So both managers were going along at around a goal per game (Which isn't good enough) But Lambert has massively improved us defensively & atleast given us a chance of staying up. Hughes isn't the manager, Lambert is. He has been employed to save us. He doesn't look like doing it with the way he sets his team up to play. He has had the 6 easiest games of the season and hasn't secured enough points. We'll see tomorrow night how much he has 'improved' things. Hopefully he has. Well if we concede less then seven it will be a improvement on Hughes
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Post by kustokie on Mar 12, 2018 8:46:27 GMT
Our goal difference has improved by a massive 1 goal. Next. I don't get why you're mocking that. In Lamberts half-a-dozen games our GD is plus one, in Hughes' twenty-two it was minus twenty-five. That's a massive turn around. Except for one minor detail: we haven’t played anyone capable of giving us good hiding - tonight will be the real test.
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