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Post by PotterLog on Mar 9, 2018 15:39:37 GMT
Just been talking about signing for us - TP asked him at the time if his gambling issue was sorted and he lied! He was still gambling for months after he joined us apparently, did we know that?
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 9, 2018 15:42:52 GMT
One for momo - apparently when Ethers came clean, Scholes' helpful advice was "why can't you just stop?"
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 9, 2018 15:49:27 GMT
He was pretty ordinary when he first came to us so that would explain that.
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Post by werrington on Mar 9, 2018 16:02:33 GMT
He was pretty ordinary when he first came to us so that would explain that. He was indeed,it’s often proclaimed his January signing saved our season ...it’s a myth He only really burst onto our scene in the Blackpool cup game the October of the following season and the rest is history Threads from that time will back it up |
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Mar 9, 2018 16:18:30 GMT
He was pretty ordinary when he first came to us so that would explain that. He was indeed,it’s often proclaimed his January signing saved our season ...it’s a myth He only really burst onto our scene in the Blackpool cup game the October of the following season and the rest is history Threads from that time will back it up this is bull@@@@. before he signed we had no one who could carry the ball forward. the first game he played we looked a different outfit as we had an option other than lumping to mama. |
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 9, 2018 16:23:00 GMT
He was pretty ordinary when he first came to us so that would explain that. He was indeed,it’s often proclaimed his January signing saved our season ...it’s a myth He only really burst onto our scene in the Blackpool cup game the October of the following season and the rest is history Threads from that time will back it up I recall that when Tuncay signed, the most common suggestion was that he'd be our regular left winger in place of Etherington, which persisted well until Christmas that season. |
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Post by walrus on Mar 9, 2018 17:08:00 GMT
He was pretty ordinary when he first came to us so that would explain that. I mentioned Ethers a few months back on a thread about players you didn't like at first that ended up being great and got torn to pieces. I still stand by my view that he contributed pretty little that first half season. My abiding memory is his stupid sending off at Sunderland. From the following season he was brilliant. Beattie was the difference that first season, unfortunately his performances massively waned as Ethers came good. |
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Post by ParaPsych on Mar 9, 2018 19:09:52 GMT
Etherington may not have hit the heights straight away but some of the stick he was getting on here at the time, as usual, was bordering on the ridiculous. We looked a far more balanced team and he was quite a bit better than having the likes of Cresswell or Pugh running up and down the left wing.
Also he got I think 3 direct assists for Beattie. Including an absolute beauty of a cross for the goal against Man City.
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Post by Cast no shadow on Mar 9, 2018 19:14:40 GMT
Gone off him, gone so far up west hams arse you can only see just toes. Did well for us though mind.
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Post by lordb on Mar 9, 2018 19:15:53 GMT
Etherington may not have hit the heights straight away but some of the stick he was getting on here at the time, as usual, was bordering on the ridiculous. We looked a far more balanced team and he was quite a bit better than having the likes of Cresswell or Pugh running up and down the left wing. Also he got I think 3 direct assists for Beattie. Including an absolute beauty of a cross for the goal against Man City. 100% correct. He wasn't 'on fire' but he formed an instant partnership with Beattie. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 9, 2018 19:36:13 GMT
One for momo - apparently when Ethers came clean, Scholes' helpful advice was "why can't you just stop?" Scholes most likely wanted to know if he was giving his money to BET 365. |
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Post by RF10 on Mar 9, 2018 20:21:45 GMT
Gone off him, gone so far up west hams arse you can only see just toes. Did well for us though mind. He supports West Ham? |
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Post by TinkerT on Mar 9, 2018 20:33:45 GMT
He pissed on the club bigtime, we paid off millions of his debts when he joined us and he still carried on betting after he signed..
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Post by mrred on Mar 9, 2018 21:00:27 GMT
He pissed on the club bigtime, we paid off millions of his debts when he joined us and he still carried on betting after he signed.. It's an illness. You can't just turn it off. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 21:03:49 GMT
Itis the club where he came of age so you can't blame him for keeping a connection there. But as far as I know he lives here.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Mar 9, 2018 22:58:34 GMT
He was pretty ordinary when he first came to us so that would explain that. He was indeed,it’s often proclaimed his January signing saved our season ...it’s a myth He only really burst onto our scene in the Blackpool cup game the October of the following season and the rest is history Threads from that time will back it up It was the combination of Etherington and Beattie that led us to safety. It's likely one wouldn't have had the impact without the other. He pissed on the club bigtime, we paid off millions of his debts when he joined us and he still carried on betting after he signed.. We didn't pay off his debts. We paid his wages which helped pay off his debts, and supported him through his addiction. It's not as simple as "he still carried on betting after he signed", but there are plenty of discussions on here about that sort of thing, and interviews with Ethers if you care to find them. |
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Post by TinkerT on Mar 10, 2018 10:12:04 GMT
He was indeed,it’s often proclaimed his January signing saved our season ...it’s a myth He only really burst onto our scene in the Blackpool cup game the October of the following season and the rest is history Threads from that time will back it up It was the combination of Etherington and Beattie that led us to safety. It's likely one wouldn't have had the impact without the other. He pissed on the club bigtime, we paid off millions of his debts when he joined us and he still carried on betting after he signed.. We didn't pay off his debts. We paid his wages which helped pay off his debts, and supported him through his addiction. It's not as simple as "he still carried on betting after he signed", but there are plenty of discussions on here about that sort of thing, and interviews with Ethers if you care to find them. We DID pay off his debts, he had a lot of demons at westham and he owed quite a few influential people money, this is what i mean when I say we paid them off because we did. The club did a lot for him and offered him the chance of a fresh start when moving up here, he pissed on the club and carried on with it. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2018 11:26:42 GMT
It was the combination of Etherington and Beattie that led us to safety. It's likely one wouldn't have had the impact without the other. We didn't pay off his debts. We paid his wages which helped pay off his debts, and supported him through his addiction. It's not as simple as "he still carried on betting after he signed", but there are plenty of discussions on here about that sort of thing, and interviews with Ethers if you care to find them. We DID pay off his debts, he had a lot of demons at westham and he owed quite a few influential people money, this is what i mean when I say we paid them off because we did. The club did a lot for him and offered him the chance of a fresh start when moving up here, he pissed on the club and carried on with it. I dont give a shit what he was doing he was fantastic for us. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 10, 2018 11:34:20 GMT
He was indeed,it’s often proclaimed his January signing saved our season ...it’s a myth He only really burst onto our scene in the Blackpool cup game the October of the following season and the rest is history Threads from that time will back it up this is bull@@@@. before he signed we had no one who could carry the ball forward. the first game he played we looked a different outfit as we had an option other than lumping to mama. It really isn’t. He did very little for the remainder of that season save for the cross for Beattie against Man City. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 10, 2018 11:39:53 GMT
this is bull@@@@. before he signed we had no one who could carry the ball forward. the first game he played we looked a different outfit as we had an option other than lumping to mama. It really isn’t. He did very little for the remainder of that season save for the cross for Beattie against Man City. And the assist v wba and spurs and an outstanding game (debut I think) v Liverpool. He gave us an ability to get up the pitch. He started well and got better and better. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 10, 2018 11:41:56 GMT
It really isn’t. He did very little for the remainder of that season save for the cross for Beattie against Man City. And the assist v wba and spurs and an outstanding game (debut I think) v Liverpool. He gave us an ability to get up the pitch. He started well and got better and better. When we signed Tuncay the assumption was he’d be playing wide left because Etherington had underwhelmed. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 10, 2018 11:43:05 GMT
And the assist v wba and spurs and an outstanding game (debut I think) v Liverpool. He gave us an ability to get up the pitch. He started well and got better and better. When we signed Tuncay the assumption was he’d be playing wide left because Etherington had underwhelmed. By you maybe. I thought he'd get the mama role behind Sir Ric. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 10, 2018 11:46:49 GMT
When we signed Tuncay the assumption was he’d be playing wide left because Etherington had underwhelmed. By you maybe. I thought he'd get the free role behind Sir Ric. By a lot of people on here. You thought Tony Pulis was going to give someone a ‘free role’? In the Mama role?! |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 10, 2018 12:38:33 GMT
By you maybe. I thought he'd get the free role behind Sir Ric. By a lot of people on here. You thought Tony Pulis was going to give someone a ‘free role’? In the Mama role?! Yeah. This place is the voice of reason and font of knowledge isn't it? I expected tuncay to play in a role that suited his abilities. He was never a winger. Having spent 5m on him (a not insignificant sum at the time) you'd think the manager might have evolved a bit because a) mama was out with a long term injury and b) tuncay at the time was renowned for his tigerish work ethic. You (and others) expected him to replace etherington who was clearly a tp favourite from the second he walked through the door? |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 10, 2018 12:49:46 GMT
By a lot of people on here. You thought Tony Pulis was going to give someone a ‘free role’? In the Mama role?! Yeah. This place is the voice of reason and font of knowledge isn't it? I expected tuncay to play in a role that suited his abilities. He was never a winger. Having spent 5m on him (a not insignificant sum at the time) you'd think the manager might have evolved a bit because a) mama was out with a long term injury and b) tuncay at the time was renowned for his tigerish work ethic. You (and others) expected him to replace etherington who was clearly a tp favourite from the second he walked through the door? It certainly isn’t, there’s clueless folk on here who’ll try and chat hopelessly inaccurate shite about everything from Paul Lambert’s Norwich to when we signed Glen Johnson.  Etherington wasn’t ‘clearly’ anything of the sort in those first few months and it certainly wasn’t controversial at the time to suggest the start he’d made was disappointing. oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/90466/etherington?scrollTo=1329210&page=1Pulis doesn’t have that sort of a role in his teams so of course Tuncay wasn’t going to play it. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 10, 2018 12:55:38 GMT
Yeah. This place is the voice of reason and font of knowledge isn't it? I expected tuncay to play in a role that suited his abilities. He was never a winger. Having spent 5m on him (a not insignificant sum at the time) you'd think the manager might have evolved a bit because a) mama was out with a long term injury and b) tuncay at the time was renowned for his tigerish work ethic. You (and others) expected him to replace etherington who was clearly a tp favourite from the second he walked through the door? It certainly isn’t, there’s clueless folk on here who’ll try and chat hopelessly inaccurate shite about everything from Paul Lambert’s Norwich to when we signed Glen Johnson. Etherington wasn’t ‘clearly’ anything of the sort in those first few months and it certainly wasn’t controversial at the time to suggest the start he’d made was disappointing. oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/90466/etherington?scrollTo=1329210&page=1Pulis doesn’t have that sort of a role in his teams so of course Tuncay wasn’t going to play it. Unlike you I don't endlessly research everything before I post it and tend to go from memory. Timelines may be mistaken but I like etherington from the outset. He started well and get better and better. As for tuncay why couldn't he have played the mama role? Walters did it. Regardless of when he signed Johnson had a very good season and a half in a stoke shirt. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 10, 2018 12:59:15 GMT
It certainly isn’t, there’s clueless folk on here who’ll try and chat hopelessly inaccurate shite about everything from Paul Lambert’s Norwich to when we signed Glen Johnson. 😊 Etherington wasn’t ‘clearly’ anything of the sort in those first few months and it certainly wasn’t controversial at the time to suggest the start he’d made was disappointing. oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/90466/etherington?scrollTo=1329210&page=1Pulis doesn’t have that sort of a role in his teams so of course Tuncay wasn’t going to play it. Unlike you I don't endlessly research everything before I post it and tend to go from memory. Timelines may be mistaken but I like etherington from the outset. He started well and get better and better. As for tuncay why couldn't he have played the mama role? Walters did it. Regardless of when he signed Johnson had a very good season and a half in a stoke shirt. You want to try it Dave. It takes 10 seconds and tends to not undermine any point you might have to make. The Mama role required physicality, the ability to hold the ball up and a willingness to drop into midfield when we didn’t have the ball, none of which was exactly in Tuncay’s wheelhouse. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 10, 2018 13:04:51 GMT
Unlike you I don't endlessly research everything before I post it and tend to go from memory. Timelines may be mistaken but I like etherington from the outset. He started well and get better and better. As for tuncay why couldn't he have played the mama role? Walters did it. Regardless of when he signed Johnson had a very good season and a half in a stoke shirt. You want to try it Dave. It takes 10 seconds and tends to not undermine any point you might have to make. The Mama role required physicality, the ability to hold the ball up and a willingness to drop into midfield when we didn’t have the ball, none of which was exactly in Tuncay’s wheelhouse. Wouldn't we have been better off paying 5m for a winger if that's where you expected him to play? As it happens tuncay was wank and I wouldn't have played him right wing, left wing, centre forward or in behind a striker. Yet another signing of a so called better player who then manager had no clue how to utilise. Ethers was great for us, offered us an outlet we didn't have before and contributed defensively as well. His sending off at Sunderland was stupid and as any winger, he could be anonymous at times but he was a huge improvement on cresswell and tuncay was never going to rob him of his place in the team. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 10, 2018 13:09:24 GMT
You want to try it Dave. It takes 10 seconds and tends to not undermine any point you might have to make. The Mama role required physicality, the ability to hold the ball up and a willingness to drop into midfield when we didn’t have the ball, none of which was exactly in Tuncay’s wheelhouse. Wouldn't we have been better off paying 5m for a winger if that's where you expected him to play? As it happens tuncay was wank and I wouldn't have played him right wing, left wing, centre forward or in behind a striker. Yet another signing of a so called better player who then manager had no clue how to utilise. Ethers was great for us, offered us an outlet we didn't have before and contributed defensively as well. His sending off at Sunderland was stupid and as any winger, he could be anonymous at times but he was a huge improvement on cresswell and tuncay was never going to rob him of his place in the team. Of course it would’ve made more sense to buy a winger, but TP and his sticker album of names tended to come before what we actually needed. But at the time that was the most logical role for Tuncay given Etherington hadn’t spluttered into life yet and there were only really two creative roles in a Pulis team (three if he was feeling saucy enough to actually play two wingers and Ric). |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 10, 2018 13:31:20 GMT
Wouldn't we have been better off paying 5m for a winger if that's where you expected him to play? As it happens tuncay was wank and I wouldn't have played him right wing, left wing, centre forward or in behind a striker. Yet another signing of a so called better player who then manager had no clue how to utilise. Ethers was great for us, offered us an outlet we didn't have before and contributed defensively as well. His sending off at Sunderland was stupid and as any winger, he could be anonymous at times but he was a huge improvement on cresswell and tuncay was never going to rob him of his place in the team. Of course it would’ve made more sense to buy a winger, but TP and his sticker album of names tended to come before what we actually needed. But at the time that was the most logical role for Tuncay given Etherington hadn’t spluttered into life yet and there were only really two creative roles in a Pulis team (three if he was feeling saucy enough to actually play two wingers and Ric). Had tuncay ever played left wing? Ethers started really well for us, then he had a lull but when Lawrence returned to the team the pair of them were excellent. The games against Blackburn, hull and wba sticking in my memory in particular. |
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