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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 26, 2018 15:00:30 GMT
Ordinarily, yes, but the position we're in, we need all three. It'd be a massive boost.
That penalty miss v Brighton and Butland's og could be four precious points dropped, putting us on 30 and looking much more likely to stay up.
Shaqiri's long range effort at Leicester on Sat drifting wide. Such fine margins.
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Post by borat on Feb 26, 2018 17:42:57 GMT
I've just done a league predictor and got the following: Saints (A) - 0 Man City (H) - 0 Everton (H) - 3 Arsenal (A) - 0 Spurs (H) - 0 West Ham (A) - 1 Burnley (H) - 3 Liverpool (A) - 0 Palace (H) - 3 Swansea (A) - 1 We finished on 37 points and 3 clear of the drop zone. I had West Brom, Saints and Huddersfield to go down. In short, I haven't got a clue. Wow didnt realize how tough the next 6 games are ( apart from saints) , we could be quite a few points adrift which actually means lose Saturday and we are pretty much screwed in my opinion. We've got a tough run in.
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Post by bhp on Feb 26, 2018 18:03:03 GMT
Yes of course. We are very much 2nd favourites. If anyone seriously believes we might draw or even win you should put some money on it, the odds are long for both: Southampton 5/6 Draw 11/4 Stoke 21/5 No value in betting on Southampton at all. How can they price Southampton at 5/6 when there's 1 point between the 2 sides. Yes our away record is terrible but Southampton have only won 3 games at home this season.
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Post by blackpoolred on Feb 26, 2018 18:09:18 GMT
For the last 4 games we have had posts stating that they were must win and we won none of them and now it seems the majority are happy with a draw when we are sitting adrift in the drop zone I hope the team don't have the same attitude, we are in a position where even if we win this we could still be in the relegation zone and with the next games after Southampton being City, Spurs and Arsenal we could almost be done and dusted after those games unless we beat Southampton. Even if we win this game I think we are fecked - a point is pretty much useless to us. I want 11 strikers on the pitch and none of this cautious shite and if we score 1st we have got to show a pair and go for another goal and lets face it if we try to defend a 1 goal lead some fecking calamity will bestow us the way it is going at the moment I also think it would be beneficial if we gave Adam and Fletcher a Southampton kit for the game, it is the only way we are going to get them to find a Stoke shirt with a pass - should they play. Respectfully that's bollocks. Our fate will likely be decided by 1 or at the very most 2 points either way so it's reckless to write one off. We have 6 winnable games left and we more than likely need to win 5 of those, Southampton are the lowest place team of all the fixtures we have left. That to me is a game we must try and win. I hope our manager and the club have done the maths and we are not sticking 11 men behind the ball at Southampton thinking that a point is a good result. We have City, Spurs and Arsenal immediately after Southampton and by the time we have finished that lot I am guessing we won't be looking back and saying the point we got at Southampton was a decent result - we maybe if we win a couple of those games I am not saying we should go totally gung-ho and lose all shape, but we have to take a few more risks in games, for instance, we had a corner in the dying embers of the game against Leicester and only put a couple of players in the box. We have to have a more positive outlook in those situations, thinking if we commit too many men into the box we may conceede on the break is not an option for us now - we just have to go for it a bit more
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 26, 2018 18:42:09 GMT
Respectfully that's bollocks. Our fate will likely be decided by 1 or at the very most 2 points either way so it's reckless to write one off. We have 6 winnable games left and we more than likely need to win 5 of those, Southampton are the lowest place team of all the fixtures we have left. That to me is a game we must try and win. I hope our manager and the club have done the maths and we are not sticking 11 men behind the ball at Southampton thinking that a point is a good result. We have City, Spurs and Arsenal immediately after Southampton and by the time we have finished that lot I am guessing we won't be looking back and saying the point we got at Southampton was a decent result - we maybe if we win a couple of those games I am not saying we should go totally gung-ho and lose all shape, but we have to take a few more risks in games, for instance, we had a corner in the dying embers of the game against Leicester and only put a couple of players in the box. We have to have a more positive outlook in those situations, thinking if we commit too many men into the box we may conceede on the break is not an option for us now - we just have to go for it a bit more FIVE? That would give us 41 points. It would be nice but I don't think anyone expects us to need that.
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Post by blackpoolred on Feb 26, 2018 19:13:22 GMT
We have 6 winnable games left and we more than likely need to win 5 of those, Southampton are the lowest place team of all the fixtures we have left. That to me is a game we must try and win. I hope our manager and the club have done the maths and we are not sticking 11 men behind the ball at Southampton thinking that a point is a good result. We have City, Spurs and Arsenal immediately after Southampton and by the time we have finished that lot I am guessing we won't be looking back and saying the point we got at Southampton was a decent result - we maybe if we win a couple of those games I am not saying we should go totally gung-ho and lose all shape, but we have to take a few more risks in games, for instance, we had a corner in the dying embers of the game against Leicester and only put a couple of players in the box. We have to have a more positive outlook in those situations, thinking if we commit too many men into the box we may conceede on the break is not an option for us now - we just have to go for it a bit more FIVE? That would give us 41 points. It would be nice but I don't think anyone expects us to need that. I am going off the old 40pts for safety - and that all the teams above us and out of the relegation zone are averaging a point or more per game and then, of course, there is our shitty goal difference The point is we should be working on the fact we have to win 5 and that we will need a minimum of 41pts - and not hoping that 2 teams above us totally feck up and that the odd point here and there may be enough for us. Even if 18th spot does finish on 39pts, that still leaves us needing 40pts and 4 wins and 2 draws from those 6 games. Let's face it if the safety mark is going to be anywhere near the high 30's then we are possibly already fecked - even if we beat Southampton
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 26, 2018 19:42:32 GMT
FIVE? That would give us 41 points. It would be nice but I don't think anyone expects us to need that. I am going off the old 40pts for safety - and that all the teams above us and out of the relegation zone are averaging a point or more per game and then, of course, there is our shitty goal difference The point is we should be working on the fact we have to win 5 and that we will need a minimum of 41pts - and not hoping that 2 teams above us totally feck up and that the odd point here and there may be enough for us. Even if 18th spot does finish on 39pts, that still leaves us needing 40pts and 4 wins and 2 draws from those 6 games. Let's face it if the safety mark is going to be anywhere near the high 30's then we are possibly already fecked - even if we beat Southampton We can draw games as well you know. There is no way in hell we'll win five more games, and I think it's highly unlikely we'll get to 40 points. With optimistic predictions I can get us to 37/38, which we'll have to hope is enough.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 26, 2018 21:32:51 GMT
FIVE? That would give us 41 points. It would be nice but I don't think anyone expects us to need that. I am going off the old 40pts for safety - and that all the teams above us and out of the relegation zone are averaging a point or more per game and then, of course, there is our shitty goal difference The point is we should be working on the fact we have to win 5 and that we will need a minimum of 41pts - and not hoping that 2 teams above us totally feck up and that the odd point here and there may be enough for us. Even if 18th spot does finish on 39pts, that still leaves us needing 40pts and 4 wins and 2 draws from those 6 games. Let's face it if the safety mark is going to be anywhere near the high 30's then we are possibly already fecked - even if we beat Southampton I'm liking your rationale but as potterslog says I don't think there is a cat in hells chance we'll reach 40 points. We'll get 36 or 37 tops and just hope for the best. Unless of course we have a mazey run
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Post by pez75 on Feb 27, 2018 12:21:59 GMT
A draw is obvs better than a defeat, but no way should we play for anything other than a WIN!
Looking at the fixtures we need to beat either Southampton or West Ham away, beat Everton & Burnley at home, and maybe nick a point or two of one of the others - I would fear the worst if we have to go to Swansea with us both needing a result...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2018 12:45:47 GMT
I've got 35 as the safety mark.
34 and down.
Hopefully GD won't come into play.
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Post by foster on Feb 27, 2018 12:55:47 GMT
We need 12-14 points from 10 games. I don't care where the points come from.
Man City and Liverpool games are the only ones I see us getting nothing in. Of the remaining 8 matches we need to make sure we don't lose and try to sneak a few wins.
Our shit GD isn't doing us any favours either.
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Post by shangamuzo on Feb 27, 2018 13:13:05 GMT
Yes of course. We are very much 2nd favourites. If anyone seriously believes we might draw or even win you should put some money on it, the odds are long for both: Southampton 5/6 Draw 11/4 Stoke 21/5 No value in betting on Southampton at all. How can they price Southampton at 5/6 when there's 1 point between the 2 sides. Yes our away record is terrible but Southampton have only won 3 games at home this season. I agree there's no value in backing Southampton to win. The fact is though over 70% of the bets with the bookies are for the home win. That's why they're 5/6.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2018 13:17:39 GMT
A draw is better than a loss
Win = hope
Draw = tack in relegation coffin
Loss = 6 inch nails
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Post by kustokie on Feb 27, 2018 13:41:58 GMT
I've just done a league predictor and got the following: Saints (A) - 0 Man City (H) - 0 Everton (H) - 3 Arsenal (A) - 0 Spurs (H) - 0 West Ham (A) - 1 Burnley (H) - 3 Liverpool (A) - 0 Palace (H) - 3 Swansea (A) - 1 We finished on 37 points and 3 clear of the drop zone. I had West Brom, Saints and Huddersfield to go down. In short, I haven't got a clue. Wow didnt realize how tough the next 6 games are ( apart from saints) , we could be quite a few points adrift which actually means lose Saturday and we are pretty much screwed in my opinion. We've got a tough run in. On the other hand, if we pick up 6 points from the next 5 games by beating Soton and Everton, we’ll have weathered the storm and be in pretty good shape.
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Post by superheroantonius on Feb 27, 2018 13:50:51 GMT
I would definately take a point
We need to avoid defeat against anyone in or around us
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Post by Veritas on Feb 27, 2018 14:47:17 GMT
I would definately take a point We need to avoid defeat against anyone in or around us We are in the drop zone therefore need to make ground up on the teams around us making Southampton, Palace & Swansea the most vital games with Burnley & Everton the other two weeks need to get something from, anything from the other games will be a bonus
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Post by GrahamHyde on Mar 3, 2018 22:51:52 GMT
So?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 4, 2018 2:07:34 GMT
We were rubbish today so a draw away is not a bad result but I now think we needed a win considering Swansea won.
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Mar 4, 2018 2:45:23 GMT
Must win three of:
Everton West Ham Swansea Palace Burnley
a nick a point elsewhere.
37 points will be enough. End of.
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