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Post by robdog on Feb 25, 2018 12:57:24 GMT
In Jan I completed 30 years service with the same company. Didnt get a single congratulations from any of my bosses, colleagues or Head Office.
A simple thank you would have been nice
Miserable sods
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 13:03:31 GMT
After a certain point they will take you for granted, in my experience.
You spend your working life being "kept on your toes" by them. I found out years ago, that you need to keep them on theirs, too.
If you're good at what you do, use it to your advantage.
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Post by chuffedstokie on Feb 25, 2018 13:07:33 GMT
After 2 years with my recent lot I think I got lucky. Good honest bunch. Oh, and thanks for the pay rise.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 25, 2018 14:25:10 GMT
Why anyone thinks their employers think anything of them other than they are there to help them make as much profit as possible (private sector) or to do all the actual work the managers can't be arsed to do while they're busy managing or having endless meetings (public sector) is beyond me.
No doubt there are a few exceptions, but the reality is more like what my brother's ex-wife discovered about five years ago. Worked all her post-Uni life with one insurance company (about 25 years). Time came for cost savings, closing branches, expanding online business etc, cheerio. Softened the blow with a nice pay-off but it was literally, you've got five minutes to clear your desk, get out. Presumably to prevent those with a knowledge of workings from doing some damage by way of 'revenge'.
There's very little loyalty. You are just a cog in the machine, easily replaced or discarded at will when no longer useful.
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Post by forwhatitsworth on Feb 25, 2018 14:44:37 GMT
In Jan I completed 30 years service with the same company. Didnt get a single congratulations from any of my bosses, colleagues or Head Office. A simple thank you would have been nice Miserable sods You get paid every month. What more do you want? |
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Post by chuffedstokie on Feb 25, 2018 15:18:31 GMT
Why anyone thinks their employers think anything of them other than they are there to help them make as much profit as possible (private sector) or to do all the actual work the managers can't be arsed to do while they're busy managing or having endless meetings (public sector) is beyond me. No doubt there are a few exceptions, but the reality is more like what my brother's ex-wife discovered about five years ago. Worked all her post-Uni life with one insurance company (about 25 years). Time came for cost savings, closing branches, expanding online business etc, cheerio. Softened the blow with a nice pay-off but it was literally, you've got five minutes to clear your desk, get out. Presumably to prevent those with a knowledge of workings from doing some damage by way of 'revenge'. There's very little loyalty. You are just a cog in the machine, easily replaced or discarded at will when no longer useful. Do you run a business. |
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Post by StokieNath on Feb 25, 2018 17:12:55 GMT
In Jan I completed 30 years service with the same company. Didnt get a single congratulations from any of my bosses, colleagues or Head Office. A simple thank you would have been nice Miserable sods Congrats on the 30 years! Loyalty in this day and age is very rare. I understand where your coming from but as a business owner myself, it's extremely hard to get round to every single one of my employees. They are all fantastic people, not one bad egg. But, I'm sure most of your bosses would love to say congrats but everyone is just so busy. Last week, I had about 2 hours to myself. That was from Monday to Friday! |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 25, 2018 17:24:49 GMT
In 1980 my dad retired from the NCB, 2 serious pit accident s. He got a ( very cheap looking) "certificate".....they got the year wrong on the certificate! He did get a clock, but this was from a collection by his immediate colleagues. As Forwhatsitworth has said, " should we expect anything?"
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Post by Northy on Feb 25, 2018 19:19:01 GMT
my lot give you something for 21 years (not me yet) and also a good wack of vouchers and money towards a party on retiring
they use to give you an extra days holiday for every year over 25years, max of 35 days.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 20:45:56 GMT
I worked for the same company for 40 years before taking early retirement.
After 10 years service you got an extra 3 days annual holiday
After 25 years you got an extra week annual holiday and a long service award (your own choice of gift to a certain value paid by the company), and a Long Service Awards Dinner for yourself and guest, held at a different hotel throughout the country each year, with all drinks and accommodation again paid for by the Company.
After 40 years you got another long service award (again own choice of gift but to a much higher monetary value) and another Long Service Awards Dinner on same basis as the 25 year Dinner.
Most years it was normal for there to be around 15 people receiving a 25 year long service award, and probably 5 or 6 people receiving a 40 year award.
On retiring you have the option of a party with one guest for every year you've worked, plus 3 other family members, or vouchers to the same value.
We used to moan a bit about certain aspects of the Company but in hindsight they certainly gave recognition to employees for loyal service.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 20:49:36 GMT
True story.
I worked 6 days a week 70 hrs supervising (running a small pot bank) I opened the door at 5.30am and locked up at 6.30pm then briefed my bosses on what had gone on in the day in an unpaid meeting after work.
I worked a months notice when I was offered another, better position and on the last day I walked in to the bosses office shook his hand and gave him my keys.
Two weeks after I had left I got a phone call asking me when I was coming in and how he knew I was only joking when I said I was leaving as he could see I was happy with the job and the money^
Not being a nasty person I named my succesor and took no pleasure when they went bump. (Honest^)
I've learned the rich didn't get rich by spending or sharing, or giving a shit about their staff.
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Post by starkiller on Feb 25, 2018 21:50:11 GMT
They probably don't know who you are.
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Post by cooper67 on Feb 25, 2018 23:02:03 GMT
Unfortunately you are now just a number.
Even if you were the greatest member of staff ever-you will be forgotten in a week.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 23:07:02 GMT
Unfortunately you are now just a number. Even if you were the greatest member of staff ever-you will be forgotten in a week. That's very true. Once you're out of the door you almost never existed. Things change and move on very quickly. |
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Feb 26, 2018 0:06:23 GMT
Not all businesses are the same...
Im massively online for ensuring that we recognise workers in my business (I’m an exec) I personally have overseen the following...
From the initial 1 days extra for the first 5 years (maximum 25 days) to also add public holidays and also 1 day for every five years from 10 years.
Extend financially assisted medical insurance to include all staff (BUPA) including eye tests and vouchers for glasses.
Gift vouchers or equivalent for length of service on 15, 25 and 35 years service. The longest serving member did 35 years last year and we sent him and his wife on an all expenses paid weekend to Amsterdam which he really enjoyed as he had never been abroad before.
Encourage and use flexible working to allow some members of staff work from home due to child care costs to ensure no loss of pay.
Encourage and pay for gold standard apprenticeships every year with guaranteed jobs paying far in excess of statutory rates of pay up to HNC level and also pay for all educational courses (useful for development of individuals and business) up to and including PhDs.
Guaranteed 1x family Function (including kids), 1x formal but fun Christmas function and 1x fun adult function per year.
Supporting of many local charity projects and events including cycling and golf etc and paying for staff entry fees..
Actively support union discussions and integration with myself to ensure we can „hear“ employee concerns early.
Quarterly exec and MD briefs to ALL staff so they can see how the business is doing and ask questions, bring up issues...
A reward scheme for staff initiatives for better working, including peer to peer recommendation....
Presentation pieces and gift vouchers for retirees and a small party to say thank you.
Gifts to employees for the main three.. births, deaths and marriages.
These are just a small snapshot of what I have brought in... and you know what... people still moan!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 11:24:43 GMT
Not all businesses are the same... Im massively online for ensuring that we recognise workers in my business (I’m an exec) I personally have overseen the following... From the initial 1 days extra for the first 5 years (maximum 25 days) to also add public holidays and also 1 day for every five years from 10 years. Extend financially assisted medical insurance to include all staff (BUPA) including eye tests and vouchers for glasses. Gift vouchers or equivalent for length of service on 15, 25 and 35 years service. The longest serving member did 35 years last year and we sent him and his wife on an all expenses paid weekend to Amsterdam which he really enjoyed as he had never been abroad before. Encourage and use flexible working to allow some members of staff work from home due to child care costs to ensure no loss of pay. Encourage and pay for gold standard apprenticeships every year with guaranteed jobs paying far in excess of statutory rates of pay up to HNC level and also pay for all educational courses (useful for development of individuals and business) up to and including PhDs. Guaranteed 1x family Function (including kids), 1x formal but fun Christmas function and 1x fun adult function per year. Supporting of many local charity projects and events including cycling and golf etc and paying for staff entry fees.. Actively support union discussions and integration with myself to ensure we can „hear“ employee concerns early. Quarterly exec and MD briefs to ALL staff so they can see how the business is doing and ask questions, bring up issues... A reward scheme for staff initiatives for better working, including peer to peer recommendation.... Presentation pieces and gift vouchers for retirees and a small party to say thank you. Gifts to employees for the main three.. births, deaths and marriages. These are just a small snapshot of what I have brought in... and you know what... people still moan!!! Do they drive a Merc or do you? |
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Post by cerebralstokie on Feb 26, 2018 11:40:46 GMT
One of the problems of modern capitalism is that in order to drive profits and hence be able to improve returns to the owners (shareholders) and bosses is to cut costs (pay workers as little as they can get away with).They forget that a good, well paid workforce also contributes to profitability. I am thinking of the likes of Phillip Green and Mike Ashley. Fortunately not all employers behave like this (stayingupfor GermanStokie's company a good example). Learning from the past, the likes of Cadbury's, Rowntree's and Lever Brothers provide good employment models (looking after their workers but, at the same time, expecting high standards of workmanship). Rewarding worker loyalty and hard work seems an obvious to me in running a decent outfit.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Feb 26, 2018 12:16:27 GMT
At the end of each month, they pay you for your efforts - that's thanks enough for me.
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Post by flea79 on Feb 26, 2018 14:58:59 GMT
In Jan I completed 30 years service with the same company. Didnt get a single congratulations from any of my bosses, colleagues or Head Office. A simple thank you would have been nice Miserable sods Jesus Bob is it 30 years with DSG or whatever they are known as now? still in Crewe? |
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Post by zelem on Feb 26, 2018 17:39:46 GMT
A close associate I know recently completed over 20 years service up our lovely local hospital. All they got was a knocked up certificate (off the clueless fat cats) with their wage saying “congratulations on your service, sorry we couldn’t make the presentation” , a presentation they weren’t even aware of and which they hadn’t even been notified about !!!
Just about says it all!!!
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Feb 27, 2018 4:56:16 GMT
Not all businesses are the same... Im massively online for ensuring that we recognise workers in my business (I’m an exec) I personally have overseen the following... From the initial 1 days extra for the first 5 years (maximum 25 days) to also add public holidays and also 1 day for every five years from 10 years. Extend financially assisted medical insurance to include all staff (BUPA) including eye tests and vouchers for glasses. Gift vouchers or equivalent for length of service on 15, 25 and 35 years service. The longest serving member did 35 years last year and we sent him and his wife on an all expenses paid weekend to Amsterdam which he really enjoyed as he had never been abroad before. Encourage and use flexible working to allow some members of staff work from home due to child care costs to ensure no loss of pay. Encourage and pay for gold standard apprenticeships every year with guaranteed jobs paying far in excess of statutory rates of pay up to HNC level and also pay for all educational courses (useful for development of individuals and business) up to and including PhDs. Guaranteed 1x family Function (including kids), 1x formal but fun Christmas function and 1x fun adult function per year. Supporting of many local charity projects and events including cycling and golf etc and paying for staff entry fees.. Actively support union discussions and integration with myself to ensure we can „hear“ employee concerns early. Quarterly exec and MD briefs to ALL staff so they can see how the business is doing and ask questions, bring up issues... A reward scheme for staff initiatives for better working, including peer to peer recommendation.... Presentation pieces and gift vouchers for retirees and a small party to say thank you. Gifts to employees for the main three.. births, deaths and marriages. These are just a small snapshot of what I have brought in... and you know what... people still moan!!! Do they drive a Merc or do you? Neither, why? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2018 12:00:05 GMT
Do they drive a Merc or do you? Neither, why? I always think that if a company is doing well then so should it's employees however, most, not all do well by paying a basic salary fostering a "Them and Us" attitude in the workplace with workers insisting "If you pay peanuts you get monkeys". How you implement that is probably well above my pay grade, perhaps a percentage profit sharing scheme, I really don't know. But something that makes the workers feel a part of the company and with a vested interest in it doing well. Sounds like you're trying hard to look after your workers. I'd imagine you have few vacancies and a happy workforce. I've worked for a company that when I walked to work in the snow , Cobridge to Longton because the busses were cancelled I was given a warning for being late. Another couldn't pay my wages for two weeks but managed to spend £700 on a Thursday playing golf, then put it past me as expenses. I've never worked for a boss that did anything other than exploit how hard I worked while paying the minimum amount they could get away with. A sad indictment of British companies. |
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Post by redstriper on Feb 27, 2018 18:26:37 GMT
I can honestly say I'd have no idea when a big work anniversary was coming up for any of my staff. If they reminded me I'd be happy to mark the occasion but there's no way I'd be noticing otherwise. These days a lot of bosses no longer have P.A.s who would have assisted with things like this.
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Post by metalhead on Mar 1, 2018 10:15:15 GMT
The MoD? Long and rich history of stitching up injured veterans and active servicemen out of things such as pensions and injury restitution after a tour.
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Post by GoBoks on Mar 2, 2018 12:15:00 GMT
In Jan I completed 30 years service with the same company. Didnt get a single congratulations from any of my bosses, colleagues or Head Office. A simple thank you would have been nice Miserable sods They were probably counting only the time you were actually working. Expect your 30 year congratulations in another 45 years.  |
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Post by Northy on Mar 2, 2018 16:56:50 GMT
my sis works at fwb in Stoke, theyve just started to give you a days holiday on your birthday, if its the weekend then you can take the friday or monday off.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Mar 3, 2018 8:28:23 GMT
Got a 400 quid Trafford Centre voucher and an extra days annual leave for completing 10 years in 2016. Now get 30 days holiday + bank holidays and have bought an extra 5 through salary sacrifice. Also get full sick pay which is rare these days.
Had cakes brought round yesterday an all.
Pretty happy with that tbf.
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Post by Northy on Mar 3, 2018 8:30:09 GMT
Got a 400 quid Trafford Centre voucher and an extra days annual leave for completing 10 years in 2016. Now get 30 days holiday + bank holidays and have bought an extra 5 through salary sacrifice. Also get full sick pay which is rare these days. Had cakes brought round yesterday an all. Pretty happy with that tbf. thats good for 10 years gis a job |
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Mar 3, 2018 8:34:10 GMT
Got a 400 quid Trafford Centre voucher and an extra days annual leave for completing 10 years in 2016. Now get 30 days holiday + bank holidays and have bought an extra 5 through salary sacrifice. Also get full sick pay which is rare these days. Had cakes brought round yesterday an all. Pretty happy with that tbf. thats good for 10 years gis a job Weirdly enough, the current reward for 20 years is a 200 quid voucher. As if to say thanks for doing 20 but you should have really left by now. |
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Post by scfcwebby on Mar 3, 2018 10:49:21 GMT
You get half a day holiday for for every year you work at the company I work for, I currently get 25 days plus all bank holidays. You get £1,000 for 10 years and my manager has just got £2,500 for 25 years, not cash but work will pay the equivalent of what ever you want to spend the money on (holiday, car etc)
We have all breakfast provided, cereal, bread, crumpets, Bagels, chocolate, cans of put pop, fruit. We have lunch provided a few times a year (bonfire night, pancake Day etc) we have a spa and hairdresser on site that we can use whenever and pay HIGHLY discounted prices. Family fun days a couple of times a year, kids Halloween and Christmas parties. Health cash plan...
I know we may be in a minority, but where I work is second to none for looking after staff.
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