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Post by AlbertTatlock on Feb 13, 2018 17:34:06 GMT
Bennell, 64, was convicted of 43 charges including indecent assault and serious sexual assaults against boys aged eight to 15. The youth scout and junior football coach was associated with a number of clubs including STOKE CITY, Manchester City and, Crewe Alexandra. Will this open the flood gates just like the Saville scandal did? Gouranga.  |
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Post by waffles on Feb 13, 2018 18:04:30 GMT
Yes.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Feb 13, 2018 19:19:58 GMT
I have to say that I've heard loads of unsubstantiated rumours involving other well-known people from football; obviously I won't and can't say who and what but it does plant that seed of doubt. Gouranga. |
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Post by muglump on Feb 13, 2018 19:42:18 GMT
without doubt. It was rife in the seventies, as anyone who went to my school would know. Both in reality and in accusation (false) so will be hard to untangle 40 years later
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Post by sheriffofrockridge on Feb 13, 2018 19:45:05 GMT
I have to say that I've heard loads of unsubstantiated rumours involving other well-known people from football; obviously I won't and can't say who and what but it does plant that seed of doubt. Gouranga. He approached me about going for trials at Crewe when I was playing at the Keele Classic about 25-30 years ago and I remember vividly that he made me feel uncomfortable. Thankfully I chose Stoke and our school of excellence under Tony Lacey and Pej. From a football development perspective I chose the wrong club but without realising at the time it could have been the best decision I ever made. |
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Post by marylandstoke on Feb 13, 2018 20:18:34 GMT
Thank goodness Sheriff.
It had crossed my mind with Gary Speed, was the time frame that all of this was just about to come out?
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Post by Cast no shadow on Feb 13, 2018 20:35:11 GMT
There were sleepovers at crewe in the late 90’s early 00’s that i know of and bennell had left by then
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Post by crownmeking on Feb 13, 2018 20:39:24 GMT
This shit is evil. it destroys kids innocence and scars them for life, carrying around guilt and shame that does not belong to them. I hope the bastard rots.
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Post by RF10 on Feb 13, 2018 20:43:36 GMT
Didn't he have 40+ counts charged against him?
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Feb 13, 2018 20:56:50 GMT
Scumbag, hope he rots in hell.
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 14, 2018 3:02:55 GMT
This whole situation hasn't had anything like the media attention you would expect.
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Feb 14, 2018 3:06:17 GMT
There were sleepovers at crewe in the late 90’s early 00’s that i know of and bennell had left by then Yep. Goes so much deeper than Bennell unfortunately. |
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Post by pottarius on Feb 14, 2018 3:30:03 GMT
Unfortunately twats like him are not as uncommon as you'd think. Wherever there is an opportunity to abuse there will be some sad individual taking advantage, if that individual does a decent job (real job) then many will turn a blind eye. Its not just football but other sports (see that Dr recently sent down for 175yrs for abusing gymnasts), and sadly too some areas where you'd think only the decent volunteer such as charities
Although the #MeToo tagline is somewhat abused by some for their agendas, these high-profile "stop-it-we've-had-enough" movements can only give those being abused a way to stand up to creeps like Bennell
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Post by knowingeye on Feb 16, 2018 9:30:52 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 16, 2018 9:41:20 GMT
Crewe seem to feature quite prominently in this case, were they aware of what was going on ?, as another poster has said there were sleep overs late 90,'s early 00's why ?
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Feb 16, 2018 9:50:23 GMT
This whole situation hasn't had anything like the media attention you would expect. Dunno about that Joe. It's been in the media for months now each time he's come up for new trials. There are over 300 clubs up and down the country now involved in the wider investigation into historic abuse at clubs. There's a limit to what can or can't come out in the media while there are current investigations underway, but it's certainly not as if this scumbag has escaped the media spotlight. It should have been made more public years ago, can't dispute that but it's in the public gaze now and everyone has been covering it. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 10:01:20 GMT
At least he's been made to face the players in court on Monday (I think). Horrible get!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 10:25:10 GMT
At least he's been made to face the players in court on Monday (I think). Horrible get! He only appeared by video link though. |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Feb 16, 2018 10:43:49 GMT
At least he's been made to face the players in court on Monday (I think). Horrible get! He only appeared by video link though. He's been ordered to appear in person for sentencing on Monday I'd imagine the video link for the trials was for the sake of those giving evidence so they didn't have to face him but he's there for the sentencing |
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 16, 2018 10:45:03 GMT
This BBC feature needs to be read: ‘My dreams were shattered by Barry Bennell’All of it is shocking - not least the fact that its taken more than 10 years to get him to court. The common thread across all these scandals - Saville, the church and now football - is what was going on was an"open secret". Which means that folk knew but did nothing. Simply appalling. A disgrace. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 10:45:10 GMT
No. He's actually been told to appear on Monday by the judge!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 10:45:56 GMT
Sorry mick, didn't read your post! Apologies!
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Post by Gods on Feb 16, 2018 10:53:45 GMT
I notice before this trial the BBC national reports always said he worked at clubs including "Man City, Stoke City and Crewe."
During and after it they only call out "Man City and Crewe".
I wonder if that implies that none of the cases actually tried this time around relate to whatever work it was he did at Stoke City?
I must admit even as a boy at that time I never trusted anyone with a Kevin Keegan perm!
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Post by Dingdangdoo on Feb 16, 2018 11:15:30 GMT
Absolute tip of the most humongous iceberg!!
This kind of thing happened everywhere. We are naive to think anything different.
Thankfully, society has changed and these things aren’t brushed under the carpet ‘as easily’ as they once were.
I hope all victims eventually get the voice and justice they deserve, especially those who were children at the time. I can’t imagine how their lives have been affected.
The human race always will have people who, for whatever reason, indulge in unacceptable, depraved and sadistic acts.
Humanity eh?
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Post by knowingeye on Feb 16, 2018 13:17:45 GMT
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Post by Gods on Feb 16, 2018 13:20:05 GMT
I notice before this trial the BBC national reports always said he worked at clubs including "Man City, Stoke City and Crewe."
During and after it they only call out "Man City and Crewe".
I wonder if that implies that none of the cases actually tried this time around relate to whatever work it was he did at Stoke City?
I must admit even as a boy at that time I never trusted anyone with a Kevin Keegan perm! This point matters to Stoke City is because the victims will seek compensation for psychological and physical damage as well as resultant lost earnings from the 'clubs involved' which could run to a kings ransom. |
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Post by Davef on Feb 16, 2018 13:26:43 GMT
I notice before this trial the BBC national reports always said he worked at clubs including "Man City, Stoke City and Crewe."
During and after it they only call out "Man City and Crewe".
I wonder if that implies that none of the cases actually tried this time around relate to whatever work it was he did at Stoke City?
I must admit even as a boy at that time I never trusted anyone with a Kevin Keegan perm! This point matters to Stoke City because the victims will seek compensation for psychological and physical damage as well as resultant lost earnings from the 'clubs involved' which could run to a kings ransom. I'm not exactly sure of the timeline, but I think Bennell worked part-time at Stoke and Stone Dominoes around 92/93 after being sacked by Crewe. Given the circumstances of his dismissal by Crewe, he possibly kept his head down while at Stoke and Stone (though it's hard to believe that folk back then didn't know who and what he was) but then reverted to type on the Florida trip where he was caught and convicted? |
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Post by StokeTudoGuy on Feb 16, 2018 13:45:51 GMT
Having known someone who was a lad at Crewe around this time. I was told that at least one other higher profile person was involved.
Not going to point direct fingers for obvious reasons... But I was told this probably a decade ago and the Bennell stuff has now been proved true, so I have no reason to not believe this other rat isnt implicated either.
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 16, 2018 13:50:40 GMT
So fucking tragic that so many young people just had to go through this on their own, naive and innocent and completely at the mercy of people in positions of trust and authority. Countless lives ruined, it's devastating.
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Post by Gods on Feb 16, 2018 15:19:23 GMT
This point matters to Stoke City because the victims will seek compensation for psychological and physical damage as well as resultant lost earnings from the 'clubs involved' which could run to a kings ransom. I'm not exactly sure of the timeline, but I think Bennell worked part-time at Stoke and Stone Dominoes around 92/93 after being sacked by Crewe. Given the circumstances of his dismissal by Crewe, he possibly kept his head down while at Stoke and Stone (though it's hard to believe that folk back then didn't know who and what he was) but then reverted to type on the Florida trip where he was caught and convicted? mmm...92/93 was out League 2 Championship winning year under Lou Macari. Doing a bit of homework the season before, in April 92, our reserves were crowned Pontins League Second Division champions under Peter Henderson and regularly attracted gates of >2000 in the run in. Wonder if old Bazza was knocking around that set up at all...? |
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