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Post by fourfourtwo on Feb 11, 2018 12:59:40 GMT
Charlie has cost us 3 points this year.. 1 point against Newcastle where he gave the ball away for their goal, and missing the penalty yesterday.
I like Charlie, but this probably would be the difference between relegation or safety. We certainly would have been more optimistic about surviving.
Relegation or not I will be there next year.
Come on Stoke.
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Post by forwhatitsworth on Feb 11, 2018 13:01:33 GMT
No point singling him out. He's been more creative and always looked a better prospect when he's played ahead of Fletcher. There are countless incidents, misplaced passes etc that have cost us. Bollocks to singling any one player out!
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Feb 11, 2018 13:05:11 GMT
Charlie has cost us 3 points this year.. 1 point against Newcastle where he gave the ball away for their goal, and missing the penalty yesterday. I like Charlie, but this probably would be the difference between relegation or safety. We certainly would have been more optimistic about surviving. Relegation or not I will be there next year. Come on Stoke. He lost the ball on the half way line for fucks sake!Diouf was more culpable in that game. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 11, 2018 13:20:25 GMT
Charlie has cost us 3 points this year.. 1 point against Newcastle where he gave the ball away for their goal, and missing the penalty yesterday. I like Charlie, but this probably would be the difference between relegation or safety. We certainly would have been more optimistic about surviving. Relegation or not I will be there next year. Come on Stoke. How many mistakes by Fletcher then?  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 13:21:19 GMT
Unfortunately, it's 2 mistakes that has directly cost us points in 2 huge "six-pointers", both at home to 2 dross sides.
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Post by simple on Feb 11, 2018 13:21:52 GMT
Not one player as caused our downfall it’s a team game.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 11, 2018 13:27:11 GMT
As slow as Charlie is and as limited a footballer as he is I would still start him over Fletcher if only for the fact that he looks to get us going forward.
His first instinct having eventually brought the ball under control is to play it forward.
It would be very interesting to see the stat for how many forward passes Fletcher made yesterday because I can't remember a single one.
PS and by the way I'd rather we weren't starting Charlie either.
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Post by fourfourtwo on Feb 11, 2018 13:27:53 GMT
Charlie has cost us 3 points this year.. 1 point against Newcastle where he gave the ball away for their goal, and missing the penalty yesterday. I like Charlie, but this probably would be the difference between relegation or safety. We certainly would have been more optimistic about surviving. Relegation or not I will be there next year. Come on Stoke. How many mistakes by Fletcher then? How many have lead to us directly losing points?! Even worse against the teams around us... BTW Fletcher is a lot worse, but Charlie has made 2 huge mistakes and cost us 3 points like it or not...  |
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Post by nutterpotter on Feb 11, 2018 13:28:13 GMT
Charlie has cost us 3 points this year.. 1 point against Newcastle where he gave the ball away for their goal, and missing the penalty yesterday. I like Charlie, but this probably would be the difference between relegation or safety. We certainly would have been more optimistic about surviving. Relegation or not I will be there next year. Come on Stoke. What about the points other players have cost us? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 13:28:58 GMT
So Adam has cost us three points but the Board have cost us our pace in the Prem.
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Post by Absolution on Feb 11, 2018 13:31:03 GMT
We've dropped a massive amount of points all season. Behind most goals there's usually a mistake somewhere. If Charlie's only cost us three points he's doing well.
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 11, 2018 13:31:29 GMT
How many mistakes by Fletcher then? How many have lead to us directly losing points?! Even worse against the teams around us... BTW Fletcher is a lot worse, but Charlie has made 2 huge mistakes and cost us 3 points like it or not... If you take the Newcastle game he certainly made that pass, but what do you think of Geoff's job as a central defender for that goal. That was even a worse mistake in my opinion!  |
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Post by hanibal7 on Feb 11, 2018 13:57:50 GMT
Terrible thread.
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 11, 2018 16:29:18 GMT
No point singling him out. He's been more creative and always looked a better prospect when he's played ahead of Fletcher. There are countless incidents, misplaced places etc that have cost us. Bollocks to singling any one player out! He's a fat knacker who offers nothing. Bit like the rest of the team. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 11, 2018 16:30:26 GMT
If we’re going to play that game then Hughes cost us a fair few also
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 16:31:02 GMT
He was lucky to stay on the pitch yesterday, having lost his head not long after he came on.
He completely launched his head into the face of a Brighton player (Property?) for no real reason.
I wouldn't be surprised to see retrospective action.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Feb 11, 2018 16:31:58 GMT
They have all cost us points at one time or another, we win as a team and loose as a team. That includes all those in the stands.
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Post by lancer on Feb 11, 2018 16:43:07 GMT
Charlie has cost us 3 points this year.. 1 point against Newcastle where he gave the ball away for their goal, and missing the penalty yesterday. I like Charlie, but this probably would be the difference between relegation or safety. We certainly would have been more optimistic about surviving. Relegation or not I will be there next year. Come on Stoke. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 16:44:49 GMT
Like it or not the owners have cost us our premiership place this year
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Post by Bombus on Feb 11, 2018 16:45:03 GMT
The fuck is this thread then
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Post by stantheman on Feb 11, 2018 16:45:20 GMT
Charlie has cost us 3 points this year.. 1 point against Newcastle where he gave the ball away for their goal, and missing the penalty yesterday. I like Charlie, but this probably would be the difference between relegation or safety. We certainly would have been more optimistic about surviving. Relegation or not I will be there next year. Come on Stoke. You create a post to rip the bloke apart, stating that we'll go down because of him, and then you say you like him???? WTF?? |
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Post by lancer on Feb 11, 2018 16:48:48 GMT
Charlie has cost us 3 points this year.. 1 point against Newcastle where he gave the ball away for their goal, and missing the penalty yesterday. I like Charlie, but this probably would be the difference between relegation or safety. We certainly would have been more optimistic about surviving. Relegation or not I will be there next year. Come on Stoke. Every point we have lost has been due to some mistake by one of our players. Butland has let in goals that will cost us. Ryan as made mistakes that will cost us.Our strikers, for want of a better word, missing open goals, have cost us Every time we lose the ball and as we regularly do concede a goal is someones fault, it's bound to be, it's a team game.To single Charlie out as though relegation can be laid at his door is ridiculous.I'd rather have a team of Charlies than some of the dross we are forced to watch. |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Feb 11, 2018 16:48:59 GMT
Harsh to single him out the club has been a mess for a couple of years , lots of things have played a big part in the reason we are going down and he has played his part in keeping us in the league for a few seasons , out of the players we have he has made a much greater positive contribution than most during his time with the club .
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Post by spoton on Feb 11, 2018 16:49:45 GMT
Absolute rubbish blaming Adam it was a great save he did not miss if that is your view then every time a shot on goal is saved the shooter as missed
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Feb 11, 2018 16:51:21 GMT
Think you'll find it was "Charlie Allen" who missed according to Nige on Radio Stoke.  |
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Post by swampySCFC on Feb 11, 2018 17:03:06 GMT
If you look at our negative goal difference I think Charlies 3 points is a drop in the Ocean. Nobody can hold their heads up in this side
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Feb 11, 2018 17:10:28 GMT
You can't blame giving the ball away in that situation for a goal. And we still had chances to stop it.
I'd more likely blame Jese for the missed penalty. A couple of inches in a different direction and it would've gone in anyway.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 11, 2018 18:36:18 GMT
How many easy chances have our Strikers missed that cost us pts.?
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Post by superheroantonius on Feb 11, 2018 18:41:07 GMT
Adam and shaq are the best two strikers of a dead ball at the club
One of those two should have taken the penalty and one did
It's just very unfortunate his shot was saved, but sometimes thats the way things go
Adam and shaq are both excellent strikers of a dead ball
Forget about it
Move on
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 18:42:55 GMT
It's an awful penalty but that's not why we're going down.
We have no creativity at all besides Shaq and we've been terrified of playing football for the last 2 years.
It's been a shit-scared club on and off the pitch for too long.
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