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Post by simple on Feb 11, 2018 12:47:50 GMT
Would we of been better or worse off with Glen Whealan and John Walters still at the club using There experience in the dressing room and on the pitch when needed,there best days may be over but we miss there experience.We actually practically gave these two away and replaced them with two free transfers.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Feb 11, 2018 12:57:19 GMT
Whelan no - it was time to move on unfortunately we gave his role to Fletcher who in fairness looked the business for the first few games subsequently he’s been wank, Walters no he's been injured for most of the season. Gouranga.  |
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Feb 11, 2018 12:59:26 GMT
Walters(injuries aside), yes. Whelan, no.
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Post by simple on Feb 11, 2018 13:19:29 GMT
Whelan no - it was time to move on unfortunately we gave his role to Fletcher who in fairness looked the business for the first few games subsequently he’s been wank, Walters no he's been injured for most of the season. Gouranga. If you read I said influence in the dressing room.And I never said playing all the time. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 13:20:05 GMT
I'd be more hopeful with them in the dressing room than not.
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Post by forwhatitsworth on Feb 11, 2018 13:21:04 GMT
We need a Jon Walters and a Robert Huth of old. Whelan - no!
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Post by tqstokie on Feb 11, 2018 13:32:10 GMT
They were both better than what we have now but were unfortunately past their sell by date.
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Post by Staying up for Grandadstokey on Feb 11, 2018 14:46:08 GMT
Whelan was on his last legs, but he was still better than Fletcher .A fit Jon Walters would certainly be more effective than Berihino.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 11, 2018 14:49:52 GMT
Whelan needed replacing and Walters has barely played.
They would have made no difference and were here when we were this shit last season too.
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Post by greystokie on Feb 11, 2018 14:50:39 GMT
Whelan was on his last legs, but he was still better than Fletcher .A fit Jon Walters would certainly be more effective than Berihino. My 87 year old mother, who can't walk would be more effective than Berahino! 😉 |
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Post by werrington on Feb 11, 2018 14:50:47 GMT
Rewriting of history again
Walters and Whelan were part of the problems last season when we were getting battered by all and sundry
Why would we want them back ?
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Post by stantheman on Feb 11, 2018 14:52:36 GMT
We couldnt be any worse than we are now.
Cant keep a clean sheet and can't score.
Could do with a few more experienced pros with a bit of grit and determination in the dressing room, not joirneymen mercenaries who couldnt give a fook.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 11, 2018 14:53:33 GMT
Walters is a conceited tool and Whelan publically called N’Goy “fucking shit”.
Why on earth would we want those pair here?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 11, 2018 14:54:04 GMT
Rewriting of history again Walters and Whelan were part of the problems last season when we were getting battered by all and sundry Why would we want them back ? That was another myth that got thrown about. That we didn't get battered when the British and Irish lads played. Of course it was a load of old horsewank but when did the truth ever matter. |
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Post by ParaPsych on Feb 11, 2018 14:54:31 GMT
They're both 34.
Not exactly at their peaks anymore.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 11, 2018 14:54:35 GMT
I'd have kept Walters but not Whelan.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 14:55:04 GMT
Their They're There.
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Post by werrington on Feb 11, 2018 14:55:23 GMT
We couldnt be any worse than we are now. Cant keep a clean sheet and can't score. Could do with a few more experienced pros with a bit of grit and determination in the dressing room, not joirneymen mercenaries who couldnt give a fook. I refer you to my post above |
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Post by hanibal7 on Feb 11, 2018 15:03:54 GMT
YES
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Post by hanibal7 on Feb 11, 2018 15:05:10 GMT
Walters is a conceited tool and Whelan publically called N’Goy “fucking shit”.oh dear dear dear, mummy upset you. Why on earth would we want those pair here? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 15:06:47 GMT
Slightly better but not much
This season has been disjointed and confusing
The old heads may have managed things better as they had worked together so long
Keeping Arnautovic would see us 10-12th
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Post by thanksjon on Feb 11, 2018 15:06:48 GMT
Time has probably shown how important they were.Shane Duffy yesterday showed the leadership we are missing.
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 11, 2018 15:09:49 GMT
Would we of been better or worse off with Glen Whealan and John Walters still at the club using There experience in the dressing room and on the pitch when needed,there best days may be over but we miss there experience.We actually practically gave these two away and replaced them with two free transfers. Instead of Fletcher and Berahino I must say yes, but it was really the right time to let them go. The problem is that we didn't upgrade them!  |
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Post by milky on Feb 11, 2018 15:13:59 GMT
Well Walters has been permanently injured and Whelan was done at this level.
Unbelievable that it is though we replaced him with the sake fucking model.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 11, 2018 15:14:14 GMT
I never battered Whelan and he's infinitely superior to Fletcher who would struggle to keep pace in an u10's game.
Walters no as proven by his tome at Burnley where he's been shite and injured.
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Post by exiledpotter on Feb 11, 2018 15:24:03 GMT
If we still had them the club would be being accused of a lack of ambition ... people would be saying we told you to get rid years ago (see last season's posts) ... people would want to know why they were keeping you younger, better players out of the side.
Fletcher is a very good player but not (by all accounts) at the moment but should be a positive in the dressing room. Walters is having knee surgery so perhaps on a par with Berahino at the moment.
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Post by mermaidsal on Feb 11, 2018 15:29:17 GMT
Good shout. Waaaaay better imho, ok they were getting to need scooters to get around the pitch on a bad day but for commitment, loyalty and above all both of them knowing what was best for a game at a particular moment, they were a grievous loss. No coincidence how exposed Ryan's looked since they left, as the final remaining part of the Pulis spine - we're only seeing now in the rear view mirror what a rare creation that was. It would probably only have been one more season out of W & W but what a difference that season might have made  |
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Post by hchpotter on Feb 11, 2018 15:35:03 GMT
Whelan has never contributed as little to the cause as Imbula, Fletcher, Affelay or Ireland have this season.
Walters has always given us more than Jesse and Betahino have given this season.
Whilst I understand the decision to let them both go, there are at least six midfielders and strikers who are currently Stoke players that are not fit to lace Whelan's or Walters' boots.
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Post by loosestools on Feb 11, 2018 15:36:01 GMT
Whelan was on his last legs, but he was still better than Fletcher .A fit Jon Walters would certainly be more effective than Berihino. My 87 year old mother, who can't walk would be more effective than Berahino! 😉 If I put my 88 year old mother with her walking frame alongside your 87 year old mother they might form a decent pacier strike partnership. Certainly better than waste of a strip. |
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Post by mermaidsal on Feb 11, 2018 15:43:25 GMT
Slightly better but not much This season has been disjointed and confusing The old heads may have managed things better as they had worked together so long Keeping Arnautovic would see us 10-12th If only we could have kept him, would any offer have succeeded tho? |
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