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Post by mermaidsal on Feb 10, 2018 18:40:44 GMT
I'm struggling to put a mark on today because we were just so short of quality as a squad (honourable exceptions, as often, Jack n Shaq) and I'm not sure what Lambo had in his locker that he didn't try - but then the trouble was he didn't come up with anything good enough or incisive enough either. Normally I'd be raging about the pen fracas and the manager not having a cast iron pen routine, but can't honestly hold Lambo to blame for Jese being quite such a pathetic human being (I'm sure not in the rest of his life, but def on a football pitch).
A point gained not two lost today for sure. In a grim way that feels a bonus although it shouldn't. I'll keep shouting Staying Up till the last possible moment but today was massive and we fell so far short the only sort of up that looks like helping is a rocket up us.
6* from me
add * if you were there today please
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Post by dazzler on Feb 10, 2018 18:51:16 GMT
0*.
He started Fletcher.
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 10, 2018 18:53:32 GMT
0*
Some kind of fucked up 4-2-1-3 formation to start the game. And Fletcher. Then Fat boy for Badou...
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 10, 2018 18:54:20 GMT
3
Can't do much with the shower of shit he inherited, but starting Fletcher and Choupo is bizarre.
His reluctance to given Ramadan any game time whatsoever is pissing me off, too.
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Post by redrob on Feb 10, 2018 18:54:33 GMT
* 6 He picked Fletcher, I'm very reluctant to criticize PL hard to imagine any manager getting a tune out of the shower of shit that is our squad
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2018 18:55:24 GMT
0*
Even if we'd have scraped the win I'd have given him fuck all still just for starting Fletcher.
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Post by RAF on Feb 10, 2018 18:55:25 GMT
2
Bringing Adam on was laughable.
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Post by firefella on Feb 10, 2018 19:01:20 GMT
4 from me....the only team who don’t get positive results from a change of manager is us. I really do fear the worse with him in charge and the football is no better than under Hughes, so the idea that Hughes lost the players is not true.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 10, 2018 19:02:45 GMT
5, starting Fletcher is ridiculous, he's finished as a footballer, made the changes but needed to all be at half time.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 10, 2018 19:03:09 GMT
4 from me.... the only team who don’t get positive results from a change of manager is us. I really do fear the worse with him in charge and the football is no better than under Hughes, so the idea that Hughes lost the players is not true. Apart from the win in his first game. |
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Post by firefella on Feb 10, 2018 19:05:08 GMT
That win was very lucky against a poor team....new brush sweeps clean....not at stoke....
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Post by mrred on Feb 10, 2018 19:08:46 GMT
Just playing devil's advocate, but Radio Stoke were saying before the match that he started Fletcher because Cameron was injured? That said I found the subs suspect. Would have taken Diouf off at half time, he was utterly wank. Couldn't make a pass to save his life.
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Post by firefella on Feb 10, 2018 19:15:40 GMT
Yes I agree diouf was poor ...I’d prefer Choupo up top as he’s a better finisher...still not enough pace in the team....all looked leggy....
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Post by Dr Hesham on Feb 10, 2018 19:16:41 GMT
Same Hughes rating again
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Post by itsallgonepetetone on Feb 10, 2018 19:17:41 GMT
4
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Post by Squeekster on Feb 10, 2018 19:18:21 GMT
0 negative line up at home in a must win game.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Feb 10, 2018 19:22:07 GMT
5*
Starting Fletcher unforgivable and a waste of a substitute.
Team still looks like a bunch of plodders. Although he can't be blamed for the players he has to select from.
However he needs to find some leaders especially when it comes to taking penalties.
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Post by stokeramblers on Feb 10, 2018 19:23:06 GMT
4 from me....the only team who don’t get positive results from a change of manager is us. I really do fear the worse with him in charge and the football is no better than under Hughes, so the idea that Hughes lost the players is not true. Well us and West Brom |
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Feb 10, 2018 20:11:09 GMT
3. Fletcher should have been permanently dropped after the Watford match and starting him even with Cameron injured was a poor decision. Bringing Adam on for Badou took away our mobility in midfield and slowed us down and killed all momentum after the equaliser. And obviously it allowed him to be on the pitch to miss the penalty. And final mistake was not having a pre determined penalty taker and deputy to make sure that kind of ugly on pitch argument couldn't happen.
Three mistakes that are on the manager. He's not responsible for our position but he has to take some blame for today.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 10, 2018 20:11:55 GMT
1 - Recalling the woeful and finished Fletcher was proof enough that he's not up to the job sadly.
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Post by adamsson on Feb 10, 2018 20:13:01 GMT
4 from me....the only team who don’t get positive results from a change of manager is us. I really do fear the worse with him in charge and the football is no better than under Hughes, so the idea that Hughes lost the players is not true. West Brom |
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Post by scfc5 on Feb 10, 2018 20:16:45 GMT
Cameron was on the bench, so how could he be injured?
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Post by kidcrewbob on Feb 10, 2018 20:25:37 GMT
Zero for,starting Fletcher and not assigning a pen taker
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2018 20:31:29 GMT
0.
He had no clue no formation no plan no change.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Feb 10, 2018 21:05:29 GMT
5* from me slow ponderous and falling into the saem traps as Hughes, where was this high pressing we're constatly being told about? We just ahve to try soemthing different, Shaq in the middle, Sobhi on as a sub, not starting with teh woeful Fletcher, Choupo on the bench, forwards that know how to find space, movement off the ball, if Adam had buried the penalty I'd have been saying exactly the same. A game we just ad to win and could have done but yet again fluffed our lines. Gouranga.  |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 10, 2018 21:09:26 GMT
5
Starting Fletcher instead of Cameron was just stupidity.
Not hauling off Choupo at half time and getting Ramadan on.
Having Berahino on the bench instead of Campbell.
The positives are we do look like we are slowly getting fitter and more organised.
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Post by blackpoolred on Feb 10, 2018 22:40:47 GMT
3 Can't do much with the shower of shit he inherited, but starting Fletcher and Choupo is bizarre. His reluctance to given Ramadan any game time whatsoever is pissing me off, too. Unless he changes his name to McRamadan he won't have a prayer - he seemed to be one of the few players we had hitting a bit of form under Hughes to 5/10 for today's effort - fine margins and all that, we played well 1st half last week and could have been out of sight by half-time and a last minute pen to win the game today, despite being mediocre for the best part. Could have had 6pts out of 6 in the last 7 days instead we end up with 1 and when you miss last minute penalties it can only serve to knock the stuffing out of the player's confidence Adam is the best striker of the ball we have so was the right man to take the penalty, pressure got to him and I think his legs went a bit for the rebound In short a disastrous week for the club and it is looking a tad bleak. |
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Post by fca47 on Feb 10, 2018 22:58:06 GMT
5 - had the sense to take Fletcher off, but replaced him with Berahino fffs. West Brom must be creaming themselves having got money for these two.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 10, 2018 23:20:07 GMT
0.
For starting Fletcher and picking Johnson over Edwards.
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Post by jezzascfc on Feb 10, 2018 23:26:17 GMT
For someone we claimed knew so much about our squad, how did he not realise Fletcher's race is run as a top flight footballer and that Charlie is in need of a mobility scooter to get round the pitch?
4 - the selection of Fletcher sucked all hope out of me even before the game started.
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