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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 6:06:47 GMT
Will be interesting over the next 12 rounds of matches to see how the markets move.
So here are Bet365 faves with 12 games remaining.
Huddersfield 4/7
West Brom 8/13
Swansea 6/5
Stoke 6/4
Newcastle 2/1
Brighton 3/1
Southampton, West Ham and Palace all 6/1.
Interesingly though, Bournemouth 40/1. Had we beat the diving twats we'd only be 1 point behind them. This really demonstrates the size of our task, and how fatal losing to our rivals is...
Will update weekly...
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Post by shangamuzo on Feb 6, 2018 7:07:08 GMT
Will be interesting over the next 12 rounds of matches to see how the markets move. So here are Bet365 faves with 12 games remaining. Huddersfield 4/7 West Brom 8/13 Swansea 6/5 Stoke 6/4 Newcastle 2/1 Brighton 3/1 Southampton, West Ham and Palace all 6/1. Interesingly though, Bournemouth 40/1. Had we beat the diving twats we'd only be 1 point behind them. This really demonstrates the size of our task, and how fatal losing to our rivals is... Will update weekly... On recent form I wouldn't make Swansea a shorter price than Stoke to go down. My biggest worry is there isn't enough goals in Stoke to stay up. |
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Post by leoncort on Feb 6, 2018 8:57:11 GMT
Will be interesting over the next 12 rounds of matches to see how the markets move. So here are Bet365 faves with 12 games remaining. Huddersfield 4/7 West Brom 8/13 Swansea 6/5 Stoke 6/4 Newcastle 2/1 Brighton 3/1 Southampton, West Ham and Palace all 6/1. Interesingly though, Bournemouth 40/1. Had we beat the diving twats we'd only be 1 point behind them. This really demonstrates the size of our task, and how fatal losing to our rivals is... Will update weekly... On recent form I wouldn't make Swansea a shorter price than Stoke to go down. My biggest worry is there isn't enough goals in Stoke to stay up. More goals than WBA, Swansea, Brighton, Hudds, Palace, Newcastle and even Burnley. Goals clearly arent the issue, its conceding sloppy ones and shit loads of them, particularly in games where we have done enough to win or draw (Palace A, Bournemouth A, Brighton A, Newcastle H, Burnley A) but to name a few. |
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Post by shangamuzo on Feb 6, 2018 9:47:47 GMT
On recent form I wouldn't make Swansea a shorter price than Stoke to go down. My biggest worry is there isn't enough goals in Stoke to stay up. More goals than WBA, Swansea, Brighton, Hudds, Palace, Newcastle and even Burnley. Goals clearly arent the issue, its conceding sloppy ones and shit loads of them, particularly in games where we have done enough to win or draw (Palace A, Bournemouth A, Brighton A, Newcastle H, Burnley A) but to name a few. That's the overall picture not the recent one. Stoke have got steadily worse while some of the others have got better. Like Palace, Swansea and West Ham. |
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Post by leoncort on Feb 6, 2018 11:08:49 GMT
More goals than WBA, Swansea, Brighton, Hudds, Palace, Newcastle and even Burnley. Goals clearly arent the issue, its conceding sloppy ones and shit loads of them, particularly in games where we have done enough to win or draw (Palace A, Bournemouth A, Brighton A, Newcastle H, Burnley A) but to name a few. That's the overall picture not the recent one. Stoke have got steadily worse while some of the others have got better. Like Palace, Swansea and West Ham. But you could say that at the same time we have conceded 2 in 3 games, an improvement on the overall season. |
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Post by Gods on Feb 6, 2018 11:28:36 GMT
We need to put 2 results together don't we?
We beat Swansea under Hughes and then fluffed our lines, and we beat Huddersfield under Lambert and fluffed our lines once again.
We need to beat Brighton AND follow it up by winning at Leicester.
2 back to back wins would see us back in business.
Can we do it though? I don't think so...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 22:44:16 GMT
Will be interesting over the next 12 rounds of matches to see how the markets move. So here are Bet365 faves with 12 games remaining. Huddersfield 4/7 West Brom 8/13 Swansea 6/5 Stoke 6/4 Newcastle 2/1 Brighton 3/1 Southampton, West Ham and Palace all 6/1. Interesingly though, Bournemouth 40/1. Had we beat the diving twats we'd only be 1 point behind them. This really demonstrates the size of our task, and how fatal losing to our rivals is... Will update weekly... Our odds getting worse. Still 1/8 WBA Stoke 10/11. Swans 11/8 Udders 9/4 Palace 9/4 Saints 7/2.... Saints seems generous... |
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Post by cooper67 on Feb 25, 2018 22:52:12 GMT
Will be interesting over the next 12 rounds of matches to see how the markets move. So here are Bet365 faves with 12 games remaining. Huddersfield 4/7 West Brom 8/13 Swansea 6/5 Stoke 6/4 Newcastle 2/1 Brighton 3/1 Southampton, West Ham and Palace all 6/1. Interesingly though, Bournemouth 40/1. Had we beat the diving twats we'd only be 1 point behind them. This really demonstrates the size of our task, and how fatal losing to our rivals is... Will update weekly... Our odds getting worse. Still 1/8 WBA Stoke 10/11. Swans 11/8 Udders 9/4 Palace 9/4 Saints 7/2.... Saints seems generous... Probably because they are playing us next? |
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Post by Gods on Feb 25, 2018 23:16:30 GMT
I guess our wretched goal difference (-26), awful form (1 win in 9) and brutal run in (4 Big 6'ers) are doing us no favours.
Because we have only 1 point fewer than Palace and Southampton yet are 2x and 3x respectively more likely to go down.
We have to put together 2 good results back to back, win/draw or better still win/win, that would change everything.
Trouble is I think I am right in saying we haven't won 2 consecutive matches all season?!
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Post by cooper67 on Feb 26, 2018 0:59:14 GMT
I guess our wretched goal difference (-26), awful form (1 win in 9) and brutal run in (4 Big 6'ers) are doing us no favours. Because we have only 1 point fewer than Palace and Southampton yet are 2x and 3x respectively more likely to go down. We have to put together 2 good results back to back, win/draw or better still win/win, that would change everything. Trouble is I think I am right in saying we haven't won 2 consecutive matches all season?! No we haven't won 2 consecutive games in the league this season Gods. We've won 6 all season. But some posters reckon we will win 3 or 4 of our next 10! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 1:15:11 GMT
I guess our wretched goal difference (-26), awful form (1 win in 9) and brutal run in (4 Big 6'ers) are doing us no favours. Because we have only 1 point fewer than Palace and Southampton yet are 2x and 3x respectively more likely to go down. We have to put together 2 good results back to back, win/draw or better still win/win, that would change everything. Trouble is I think I am right in saying we haven't won 2 consecutive matches all season?! No we haven't won 2 consecutive games in the league this season Gods. We've won 6 all season. But some posters reckon we will win 3 or 4 of our next 10! 10 draws would keep us up I think,..... what are the odds on that  |
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Post by cooper67 on Feb 26, 2018 3:12:56 GMT
That might just save us.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 4:00:18 GMT
No we haven't won 2 consecutive games in the league this season Gods. We've won 6 all season. But some posters reckon we will win 3 or 4 of our next 10! 10 draws would keep us up I think,..... what are the odds on that  |
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Post by auntiegeorge on Feb 26, 2018 7:10:32 GMT
No we haven't won 2 consecutive games in the league this season Gods. We've won 6 all season. But some posters reckon we will win 3 or 4 of our next 10! 10 draws would keep us up I think,..... what are the odds on that According to Professor Hanzel von Klinklefarter....absolutely zero. See his calculations below.  |
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Post by shangamuzo on Feb 26, 2018 7:40:14 GMT
No we haven't won 2 consecutive games in the league this season Gods. We've won 6 all season. But some posters reckon we will win 3 or 4 of our next 10! 10 draws would keep us up I think,..... what are the odds on that It's impossible to calculate because the odds change from match to match depending on the previous result. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 26, 2018 8:49:50 GMT
Had a tenner on us at 8/1 at start of season.
Bet365 cash out is currently £38.
They think we're doomed.
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Post by puddledpotter on Feb 26, 2018 8:50:54 GMT
I am not going to let the bookies odds add to my unease. They like the rest of us rely on pot luck to forecast who will or will not be relegated. The odds are changed in response to the amount of money staked by punters on particular teams and do not reflect the probability of the outcome.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 9:21:25 GMT
10 draws would keep us up I think,..... what are the odds on that According to Professor Hanzel von Klinklefarter....absolutely zero. See his calculations below. If you look closely he even has Snake to score, bottom left corner of pic.. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 11:20:28 GMT
10 draws would keep us up I think,..... what are the odds on that Could have used a picture of Bob Hope  |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 26, 2018 14:12:50 GMT
I am not going to let the bookies odds add to my unease. They like the rest of us rely on pot luck to forecast who will or will not be relegated. The odds are changed in response to the amount of money staked by punters on particular teams and do not reflect the probability of the outcome. That's true to a certain extent, in that the amount of money will definitely affect the odds offered on a long-running bet. However, bookies are not so daft that they don't also take into account the probability of a result happening to set their odds in the first place. It's not pot luck by any stretch. Given our leaky defence and apparent decline last season I thought 8/1 was a good value bet back in August and that we were over-priced. |
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Post by parsonage1955 on Feb 26, 2018 14:35:35 GMT
After the runs that Palace, Swansea and, to a lesser extent, Huddersfield, have had, after being emphatically written off at various points of the season, can anyone really put much faith on past form as a reliable indicator for what teams will do in the next ten games?
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Post by 3putts on Mar 3, 2018 5:06:34 GMT
the unwashed are 14/1 to go down I think that is a bostin bet.fill yer boots.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 6:58:10 GMT
the unwashed are 14/1 to go down I think that is a bostin bet.fill yer boots. Not a bad shout...only 5 points clear...Where u watchin tonight |
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Post by 3putts on Mar 3, 2018 7:11:45 GMT
the unwashed are 14/1 to go down I think that is a bostin bet.fill yer boots. Not a bad shout...only 5 points clear...Where u watchin tonight might give retox a go not been for ages. I think we won last time I went there omen |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 7:24:24 GMT
Not a bad shout...only 5 points clear...Where u watchin tonight might give retox a go not been for ages. I think we won last time I went there omen Game on or Lengkee...See Crouch's " Sister" Might pop down for a change. |
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Post by nott1 on Mar 3, 2018 7:36:00 GMT
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Post by stokeykez on Mar 3, 2018 9:18:33 GMT
Going down on 38 points, so much for the staying up with 36.
Bloody bollocks, come on stoke
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Post by shangamuzo on Mar 3, 2018 9:34:53 GMT
I am not going to let the bookies odds add to my unease. They like the rest of us rely on pot luck to forecast who will or will not be relegated. The odds are changed in response to the amount of money staked by punters on particular teams and do not reflect the probability of the outcome. They bet to a theoretical * overound (profit margin) of about 8% on football matches where there's three possible outcomes: Win-Lose-Draw. |
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Post by shangamuzo on Mar 3, 2018 9:41:44 GMT
* If all outcomes are layed in exact proportions to their odds. In practise they usually arent but they adjust the odds accordingly as the bets are placed.
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Post by nott1 on Mar 3, 2018 10:11:30 GMT
Would love to defy the "experts"! |
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